It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's the Superman Costume Thread! - Part 1 - Page 17

batman44 · 11-23-2012, 01:40 PM

Lol, I was thinking the same thing.

You can tell MOS borrows elements from Flyby.

TheWatcher · 11-26-2012, 10:02 AM

http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainmen...Ira5bDTnKk4O/0

According to the man himself, Zach Synder wanted to keep the trunks.

Discuss.

ConnorKon-El · 11-26-2012, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by batman44

Lol, I was thinking the same thing.

You can tell MOS borrows elements from Flyby.

It's very obvious yes.

Kryptonian Warrior · 11-26-2012, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TheWatcher

http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainmen...Ira5bDTnKk4O/0

According to the man himself, Zach Synder wanted to keep the trunks.

Discuss.

That's not what he says. It says that they tried to keep the trunks. So they played around with the design and ultimately came to the conclusion to lose the trunks.

“The costume was a big deal for me, and we played around for a long time,” Snyder says. “I tried like crazy to keep the red briefs on him. Everyone else said, ‘You can’t have the briefs on him.’ I looked at probably 1,500 versions of the costumes with the briefs on."

ElDuderino · 11-26-2012, 11:17 AM

Yeah, the way I read that is he tried to come up with a version that looked better than what we have now and just couldn't do it. Not that if he had his say he would have trunks.

I think anyone would be hard pressed to come up with a better design than this new MOS suit. It's damn near perfect.

Compi716 · 11-26-2012, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ElDuderino

Yeah, the way I read that is he tried to come up with a version that looked better than what we have now and just couldn't do it. Not that if he had his say he would have trunks.

I think anyone would be hard pressed to come up with a better design than this new MOS suit. It's damn near perfect.

Interesting. My interpretation of the quote is Snyder, in a very diplomatic way, saying, "I wanted to keep the trunks but the execs who are paying told me to get rid of them. I tried a whole bunch of designs that would convince them otherwise, but they just weren't having it."

ElDuderino · 11-26-2012, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Compi716

Interesting. My interpretation of the quote is Snyder, in a very diplomatic way, saying, "I wanted to keep the trunks but the execs who are paying told me to get rid of them. I tried a whole bunch of designs that would convince them otherwise, but they just weren't having it."

I don't think any director is going to openly admit he didn't get his way -- especially not in the middle of filming. It was a sort of "hey guys I tried even though no one else wanted to, but this is better" type statement to me. Kind of throwing a bone to the sliver of the fanbase that was upset about losing the underwear.

Kryptonian Warrior · 11-26-2012, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Compi716

Interesting. My interpretation of the quote is Snyder, in a very diplomatic way, saying, "I wanted to keep the trunks but the execs who are paying told me to get rid of them. I tried a whole bunch of designs that would convince them otherwise, but they just weren't having it."

You know, after reading through it again, I can see how people could interpret it that way. Although, I think it could go either way.

TheWatcher · 11-26-2012, 01:02 PM

I read it like Compi did, that he wanted them to stay but the studio said no.

The Shield · 11-26-2012, 01:14 PM

I'd love to see those concept designs. But glad we have what we have.

fanboiii · 11-26-2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ElDuderino

Yeah, the way I read that is he tried to come up with a version that looked better than what we have now and just couldn't do it. Not that if he had his say he would have trunks.

I think anyone would be hard pressed to come up with a better design than this new MOS suit. It's damn near perfect.

Definitely. Aside from not knowing exactly how the colors and texture will look on film, I think it's the best Krypton-origin costume I've seen.

Mike22 · 11-26-2012, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWatcher

http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainmen...Ira5bDTnKk4O/0

According to the man himself, Zach Synder wanted to keep the trunks.

Discuss.

I understood this to mean that he truly wanted to keep the red briefs but he was so strongly opposed (studio folks) that he had no choice but to give in.

Quote:

Everyone else said, ‘You can’t have the briefs on him.’

Makes it seem like he was the only only one that wanted to keep them, and I strongly believe him, because we all know how faithful he really is.

Quote:

I looked at probably 1,500 versions of the costumes with the briefs on.”

Goes to show his determination in wanting to keep them.

Quote:

“You come onto a project like this, and you hear about modernization and you hear about bringing things forward to today, and all you can do is hope that it’s going to look cool and different from
anything you’ve seen before,”

This pretty much tells me that they were never gonna let Snyder go with the classic version because he clearly states that he was pretty much told from the start to let go of the past and look forward, and that forward movement demanded changes.
Read between the lines people, it's all there.
I have a lot more respect for Snyder now.

Super Kal · 11-26-2012, 06:58 PM

i have a lot more respect for Snyder now hearing about how he wanted to keep the classic look... it's disgusting to hear the stupidity come from those around him.

batman44 · 11-26-2012, 08:11 PM

I would've loved for the trunks to stay, but I'm happy with the suit we got.

Stoic · 11-26-2012, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Super Kal

i have a lot more respect for Snyder now hearing about how he wanted to keep the classic look... it's disgusting to hear the stupidity come from those around him.

They didn't have a choice due to litigation. The trunks had to go. However, now that things are starting to go WB's way in the lawsuits we will likely see the return of Classic Coca Cola.

Binker · 11-26-2012, 11:28 PM

Guys, trunksless is anot wrong; in fact,it is the way to go: live with it.

Super Kal · 11-26-2012, 11:29 PM

apparently, Zack Snyder disagrees with you

SuperAl · 11-27-2012, 12:10 AM

would be interesting to see that on teh dvd as an extra. Designing the suit, show all the prototypes.

Astrodust · 11-27-2012, 02:35 AM

Because of the "Everyone else" comment it appears Snyder was pushing for the trunk. Doesn't really surprise me. I totally see Snyder being a traditionalist. Only an exec in a boardroom would mess that much with Superman's costume.

Dr. · 11-27-2012, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Snyder

“I looked at probably 1,500 versions of the costumes with the briefs on.”

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Originally Posted by Mike22

Goes to show his determination in wanting to keep them.

Yes. But commissioning “1500” design sketches, etc. - and considering each one of them - would be a colossal waste of time, effort and money if WB had issued (for legal reasons?) a “no trunks rule” from the get-go. My sense is that many options were on the table (including the trunks) and that, ultimately, the decision was made based on aesthetic criteria.

fanboiii · 11-27-2012, 07:46 AM

1500 designs and it still didn't work. No briefs is just better for a more modern, naturalistic look. Briefs immediately look costumey.

Astrodust · 11-27-2012, 10:43 AM

Briefs could of worked. They just thought this could work better. Batman is a man dressed up as a bat for crying out loud. Superman looked/looks no more ridiculous than most superheroes.

**C. Lee** · 11-27-2012, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by fanboiii

Briefs immediately look costumey.

And a skintight blue full body suit with a floor length red cape, red boots to the knee, and a huge S on his chest doesn't?

StarvingArtist · 11-27-2012, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by C. Lee

And a skintight blue full body suit with a floor length red cape, red boots to the knee, and a huge S on his chest doesn't?

Hah, I love it when you leap out of the shadows

ConnorKon-El · 11-27-2012, 11:25 AM

I love the suit, and glad the trunks are gone. Suit looks awesome. But it's nice to know Snyder tried to incorporate them.

11-23-2012, 01:40 PM	#401
batman44 Go Speed GO Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: right here Posts: 5,672	Re: It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's the Superman Costume Thread! - Part 1 Lol, I was thinking the same thing. You can tell MOS borrows elements from Flyby. __________________ << Romans 1:16 >> For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

11-26-2012, 10:02 AM	#402
TheWatcher Dapper Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 2,768	Re: It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's the Superman Costume Thread! - Part 1 http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainmen...Ira5bDTnKk4O/0 According to the man himself, Zach Synder wanted to keep the trunks. Discuss. __________________ "I have this theory that, depending on your attitude, your life doesn't have to become this ridiculous charade that it seems so many people end up living." -Christian Bale

11-26-2012, 11:17 AM	#405
ElDuderino Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,916	Re: It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's the Superman Costume Thread! - Part 1 Yeah, the way I read that is he tried to come up with a version that looked better than what we have now and just couldn't do it. Not that if he had his say he would have trunks. I think anyone would be hard pressed to come up with a better design than this new MOS suit. It's damn near perfect.

11-26-2012, 01:02 PM	#409
TheWatcher Dapper Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 2,768	Re: It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's the Superman Costume Thread! - Part 1 I read it like Compi did, that he wanted them to stay but the studio said no. __________________ "I have this theory that, depending on your attitude, your life doesn't have to become this ridiculous charade that it seems so many people end up living." -Christian Bale

11-26-2012, 01:14 PM	#410
The Shield It's really Happening! Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 2,704	Re: It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's the Superman Costume Thread! - Part 1 I'd love to see those concept designs. But glad we have what we have. __________________ Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof. ~John Kenneth Galbraith All change is not growth, as all movement is not forward. ~Ellen Glasgow

11-26-2012, 06:58 PM	#413
Super Kal Side-Kick Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: a northern state :( Posts: 47,657	Re: It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's the Superman Costume Thread! - Part 1 i have a lot more respect for Snyder now hearing about how he wanted to keep the classic look... it's disgusting to hear the stupidity come from those around him. __________________ For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and His commandments are not burdensome. /\/\/\/\

11-26-2012, 08:11 PM	#414
batman44 Go Speed GO Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: right here Posts: 5,672	Re: It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's the Superman Costume Thread! - Part 1 I would've loved for the trunks to stay, but I'm happy with the suit we got. __________________ << Romans 1:16 >> For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

11-26-2012, 11:28 PM	#416
Binker Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,257	Re: It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's the Superman Costume Thread! - Part 1 Guys, trunksless is anot wrong; in fact,it is the way to go: live with it.

11-26-2012, 11:29 PM	#417
Super Kal Side-Kick Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: a northern state :( Posts: 47,657	Re: It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's the Superman Costume Thread! - Part 1 apparently, Zack Snyder disagrees with you __________________ For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and His commandments are not burdensome. /\/\/\/\

11-27-2012, 12:10 AM	#418
SuperAl Superman's back! Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,598	Re: It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's the Superman Costume Thread! - Part 1 would be interesting to see that on teh dvd as an extra. Designing the suit, show all the prototypes.

11-27-2012, 02:35 AM	#419
Astrodust Side-Kick Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,615	Re: It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's the Superman Costume Thread! - Part 1 Because of the "Everyone else" comment it appears Snyder was pushing for the trunk. Doesn't really surprise me. I totally see Snyder being a traditionalist. Only an exec in a boardroom would mess that much with Superman's costume.

11-27-2012, 07:46 AM	#421
fanboiii disciple of truth Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,209	Re: It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's the Superman Costume Thread! - Part 1 1500 designs and it still didn't work. No briefs is just better for a more modern, naturalistic look. Briefs immediately look costumey. __________________ The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions.

11-27-2012, 10:43 AM	#422
Astrodust Side-Kick Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,615	Re: It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's the Superman Costume Thread! - Part 1 Briefs could of worked. They just thought this could work better. Batman is a man dressed up as a bat for crying out loud. Superman looked/looks no more ridiculous than most superheroes.

11-27-2012, 11:25 AM	#425
ConnorKon-El Amateur Film Nerd Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 2,401	Re: It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's the Superman Costume Thread! - Part 1 I love the suit, and glad the trunks are gone. Suit looks awesome. But it's nice to know Snyder tried to incorporate them. __________________ ConnorFilm FilmExtremist Podcast

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