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Is Hugh Jackman ever going to be allowed to have a gut? The guy is going to have to stay in Wolvie shape forever!
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So long as the FC cast doesn't take a backseat to the original trilogy actors, I'm good.
This is getting exciting.
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I just don't want this to turn into another Wolverine and Friends movie and that's exactly what Singer served with both of his x-flicks. I knew Logan was gonna be in it but now with Singer directing I'm officially worried.
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Thank you. That's exactly my issue too.
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I'm all for X-Men 4 and another Wolverine and Friends
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Why don't people (including the DOFP crew apparently) get that? |
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Because X-Men 3 sucked. Because the old cast members are returning. Because we want to see a true X-Men 4.
So again, time to call Anna Paquin, Rebecca Romijn Stamos, and James Marsden. We need to repair the damage of the X-Men 3 trash stat.
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That's not going to happen though. They aren't going to ignore X3, even if this WAS X4. The audience is confused enough by the continuity errors. You can't make them forget an entire film.
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I would keep Paquin's ****** Rogue the hell away from this film. Her and Berry need to stay far away.
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Why? Anna Paquin is a great actress and she was a good Rogue. The problem is they totally ****ed over her character arc in the third movie and gave her nothing to do.
Is it wrong I want to see Paquin have a more fulfilling arc this time around as Rogue and maybe fulfill all that promise she had in the first two movies? Have her actually show up to the final battle and not chicken out and take a fake racist cure?
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Just saying, getting all the major stars from the old movies back is a game changer here.
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I am all for saying X-men the Last Stand never happened.But,even If Bryan has to Include It In film contunity I expext Bryan to try to avoid any direct references to It.Bryan
directing can get Anna Paquin as Rogue.If Wolverine stays In future Rogue could fill the void of Kitty.Rebecca Romijn needs to be In future scenes at Ian Mckellen's side. Rewatching X2 reminds me not only how great that was but what promise the future of X-Men films had and now they have chance to reclaim It.Bryan can top X2.He has budget and time he didn't have with first 2 films. Even with being the second highest grossing X-Men film overseas First Class Is still the lowest grossing X-Men.Doing a event film with Days of future past Is smart business for Fox. |
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They were clearly building to that, but again, the writers and Brett Ratner totally screwed the pooch with fake racist cure. People need to get over Rogue's character. It worked for those movies. This was Rogue right after her mutation, a woman who has deadly skin can't just suddenly turn into sassy confident superhero overnight. Paquin is a great actress and definitely has the chops to play the Rogue we know and love.
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I think it was meant to be a sequel to FC, but since The Avengers, Fox has reconsidered it being only a sequel to FC but is now also making it a sequel to X3. FC didn't do as well as the previous X-Men movies so they want to bring back the OT cast and I'm sure they're well aware fans want to see them again. With the departure of Vaughan, plans have definitely been changed. Plus, The Wolverine is set after X3, so there is no doubt they want to move forward with the X-Men franchise. I can see them continuing the franchise with an official X4, X5 and concluding the FC timeline in DoFP, but who is say they're not going to have mutants brought to the future from the FC era.
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You still may not understand that the studio ultimately dictates the process/production...they do surveys for this kind of stuff. The mixed box office returns of First Class definitely pushed them to reconsider where the franchise is going, and I'm sure they did some audience/consumer opinion polls on where viewers would like to see these characters/franchise go next. And I'm sure that they've also already done some polls about combining these two casts...which no doubt, have turned out a greater positive result than anticipation for a simple First Class sequel.
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Honestly I hate prequels, so I see this as a decent compromise.
Wait Wolverine 2 is a sequel to X-Men 3 story now? So weird. Figured it would've been Wolverine after his first crappy movie hiding out in Japan and leading up to the first X-Men movie.
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I hope they take a quality over quantity approach when utilizing Wolverine. Is he a box office draw? Yes. Does his being onscreen make for a better scene regardless? Hell no. His 30 second cameo in Wolverine was better than his 2 hours in X-Men Origins. Use him wisely.
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According to Millar, The Wolverine acts in the same way for FOX the way the first Iron Man did for Marvel.
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It takes place after X3. Mangold confirmed that recently in an interview. I think they're just moving away from the spinoff movie altogether.
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Had to change the signature.
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Wow i didn't even consider that, both Fassbender and Mcavoy can be brought into the current timeline permanently, taking the mantle from their older counterparts due to their deaths. This way both can be locked for x-men 4 and or future sequels along with the original trilogies cast.
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If that's the case then there would be obvious nods in this movie to set up or hint at DAYS OF FUTURE PAST.
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