State your unpopular film related opinion - Part 10

[Parker Wayne]

Originally Posted by gwynplaine

Sorry
Did you prefer CR or Skyfall?

I prefer Skyfall. It feels more like a Bond while raising the personal stakes even higher and we did dig deeper into the psyche of Bond more than ever before.

[gwynplaine]

Originally Posted by Soapy

Rocky V isn't as terrible as people make it out to be.

I love Rocky, which is a masterpiece, butI also kinda like every other Rocky films. They all have some good scenes in them.

Originally Posted by Parker Wayne

I prefer Skyfall. It feels more like a Bond while raising the personal stakes even higher and we did dig deeper into the psyche of Bond more than ever before.

Good point. I love them both and still don't know which one I prefer. I gotta go see Skyfall again.

[Wesley Dodds]

Halloween 3 is most definitely not some under-rated horror classic in desperate need of reappraisal.

I finally got around to watching it the other night and I thought it was absolute ****.

[CConn]

Originally Posted by Parker Wayne

I prefer Skyfall. It feels more like a Bond while raising the personal stakes even higher and we did dig deeper into the psyche of Bond more than ever before.

But did they really dig deeper into his psyche in a organic and quality way? Or did they merely attempt to shoehorn Craig into Connery's world all the while winking at the audience more than someone with a severe facial tick?

[Soapy]

Originally Posted by DawnWarrior

Does that have to do with the fact that it's no longer the final Rocky movie?

Yes, honestly. I recently watched all six movies marathon style, and I feel like having another movie takes a lot of weight off of Rocky V. It no longer feels like this dark, depressing, unsatisfying coda to an otherwise happy and inspirational series. Getting to see where Rocky ends up in life even enriches the fifth one to a certain extent. I'm not saying it's a great movie, or even a good one, Rocky V has significant problems that go beyond the obvious stuff that I mentioned, but now that it's just another chapter in Rocky's life rather than the final chapter, I can appreciate it a lot more now.

[Wesley Dodds]

I'm incredibly relieved Aronofsky left the new Wolverine film.
He's too much of an iconoclast.

No doubt it would have been a good movie, but the stylistic shift between it and literally every other time we've ever seen Logan would've been too jarring.

It'd be like hiring Cronenberg to do Iron Man 4 or something...

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Michael Fassbender should never be Batman or James Bond.

[Happy Jack]

Originally Posted by Wesley Dodds

It'd be like hiring Cronenberg to do Iron Man 4 or something...

One of my dream projects is a Cronenberg Punisher film

Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg Bop

Michael Fassbender should never be Batman or James Bond.

Agreed.

[Parker Wayne]

Originally Posted by CConn

But did they really dig deeper into his psyche in a organic and quality way? Or did they merely attempt to shoehorn Craig into Connery's world all the while winking at the audience more than someone with a severe facial tick?

Yes. Look I don't have a laptop right now and you know how annoying it is to type on an iPad so I'll post this with as few errors as possible haha. It was organic. Like Goldeneye did for the post Cold war world, Skyfall is about Bond's place in the post 9/11 world while digging deep not only into the Bond history through the appropriation of past movies, but also giving us a more personal look into Bond's personal past, more so than any other Bond movie before. He was a broken man, and like other characters in movies before, sometimes it takes revisiting and facing your past in order fully realize why you had become the man you are. I'd be lying if I said the movie wasn't a trip down memory lane, but I'm glad that for the 50th anniversary of the movies that release a movie featuring Bond's past in a more extensive way.

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

With Skyfall, most of the movie deals with the notion that the past is dead. For most of the movie, they subvert many the elements of past movies, whether it was the exploding pen joke, M's joke about the passenger car seat, the usual main Bond girl dying midway, etc. The WWII tunnels that were supposed to protect them backfires. At the point in which Bond kills Silva with a knife is when we realize that the past may not be fully dead. At this point, we are introduced to Moneypenny and a new male M in an office reminiscent of Connery movies. It all ties in with the personal history of Bond's past very well. The past is the past, but it will never be truly dead, whether it's Bond's past, England, and of course, Bond the character. Skyfall is truly the apotheosis of Bond movies.

Wow, typing on the iPad wasn't that bad at all.

[Parker Wayne]

Originally Posted by Soapy

Yes, honestly. I recently watched all six movies marathon style, and I feel like having another movie takes a lot of weight off of Rocky V. It no longer feels like this dark, depressing, unsatisfying coda to an otherwise happy and inspirational series. Getting to see where Rocky ends up in life even enriches the fifth one to a certain extent. I'm not saying it's a great movie, or even a good one, Rocky V has significant problems that go beyond the obvious stuff that I mentioned, but now that it's just another chapter in Rocky's life rather than the final chapter, I can appreciate it a lot more now.

I'm still not a fan of the movie, but very well said, Soapy.

[Jordacar]

Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg Bop

Michael Fassbender should never be Batman or James Bond.

And Jon Hamm should never play a superhero.
Except maybe Ben Grimm. Now that one I could get behind.

[Parker Wayne]

A lot of HP fans hate it, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix is one of my favorite HP movies. I guess it's because I never read the book.

[Majik1387]

It's my fave book of the series, and while I agree the movie doesn't match the book all the way, I don't understand the distaste for it from the fans.

[CConn]

Originally Posted by Parker Wayne

Yes. Look I don't have a laptop right now and you know how annoying it is to type on an iPad so I'll post this with as few errors as possible haha. It was organic. Like Goldeneye did for the post Cold war world, Skyfall is about Bond's place in the post 9/11 world while digging deep not only into the Bond history through the appropriation of past movies, but also giving us a more personal look into Bond's personal past, more so than any other Bond movie before. He was a broken man, and like other characters in movies before, sometimes it takes revisiting and facing your past in order fully realize why you had become the man you are. I'd be lying if I said the movie wasn't a trip down memory lane, but I'm glad that for the 50th anniversary of the movies that release a movie featuring Bond's past in a more extensive way.

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

With Skyfall, most of the movie deals with the notion that the past is dead. For most of the movie, they subvert many the elements of past movies, whether it was the exploding pen joke, M's joke about the passenger car seat, the usual main Bond girl dying midway, etc. The WWII tunnels that were supposed to protect them backfires. At the point in which Bond kills Silva with a knife is when we realize that the past may not be fully dead. At this point, we are introduced to Moneypenny and a new male M in an office reminiscent of Connery movies. It all ties in with the personal history of Bond's past very well. The past is the past, but it will never be truly dead, whether it's Bond's past, England, and of course, Bond the character. Skyfall is truly the apotheosis of Bond movies.

Wow, typing on the iPad wasn't that bad at all.

But see, to me, you're merely explaining the reasoning behind the concept, not the quality of the execution.

I totally agree it was the right approach, I thoroughly disagree that it was excited properly at all.

[Jordacar]

Originally Posted by Parker Wayne

A lot of HP fans hate it, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix is one of my favorite HP movies. I guess it's because I never read the book.

I actually prefer it to the book and feel it's one of the better adaptations of the series because of how much fat it cuts from the narrative. Maybe that's why it gets so much hate from purists. Even Rowling admitted the book was too damn long.

[Parker Wayne]

I really enjoyed OOTP and was a great beginning of a truly darker HP series. I enjoy all of the movies and I don't find any of them to be bad. I like how the series slowly got darker with the first half of the HP movies and then starting with OOTP (more specifically Cedric Diggory's death in GOF) that the time of innocence and peace was truly over. Fear was started to set over Harry at every moment after.

I feel like OOTP did an excellent job at of ushering the new status quo for Harry Potter that would be there until the end of the series.

Originally Posted by CConn

But see, to me, you're merely explaining the reasoning behind the concept, not the quality of the execution.

I totally agree it was the right approach, I thoroughly disagree that it was excited properly at all.

To me, I think the only thing that could have been stronger is if Bond was a bit doubtful if he should continue, but then we'd have people going from "it was influenced by TDK" to "it ripped off TDK"

[A Necessary Evil]

Originally Posted by Parker Wayne

A lot of HP fans hate it, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix is one of my favorite HP movies. I guess it's because I never read the book.

I like it alot, and agree that one of the things that make it better than the book is trimming the fat. Also while it's one of my least favorite of the HP series, I find it a hell of a lot better than the much overrated POA

Originally Posted by Parker Wayne

Yes. Look I don't have a laptop right now and you know how annoying it is to type on an iPad so I'll post this with as few errors as possible haha. It was organic. Like Goldeneye did for the post Cold war world, Skyfall is about Bond's place in the post 9/11 world while digging deep not only into the Bond history through the appropriation of past movies, but also giving us a more personal look into Bond's personal past, more so than any other Bond movie before. He was a broken man, and like other characters in movies before, sometimes it takes revisiting and facing your past in order fully realize why you had become the man you are. I'd be lying if I said the movie wasn't a trip down memory lane, but I'm glad that for the 50th anniversary of the movies that release a movie featuring Bond's past in a more extensive way.

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

With Skyfall, most of the movie deals with the notion that the past is dead. For most of the movie, they subvert many the elements of past movies, whether it was the exploding pen joke, M's joke about the passenger car seat, the usual main Bond girl dying midway, etc. The WWII tunnels that were supposed to protect them backfires. At the point in which Bond kills Silva with a knife is when we realize that the past may not be fully dead. At this point, we are introduced to Moneypenny and a new male M in an office reminiscent of Connery movies. It all ties in with the personal history of Bond's past very well. The past is the past, but it will never be truly dead, whether it's Bond's past, England, and of course, Bond the character. Skyfall is truly the apotheosis of Bond movies.

Wow, typing on the iPad wasn't that bad at all.

[Parker Wayne]

And about the execution of Skyfall, I believe the execution was great. We got the message clearly and the message reached out to Old Bond fans with apropriated references to the past while also reaching out to filmgoers that had never seen a Bond movie.

[Drizzle]

Originally Posted by Parker Wayne

A lot of HP fans hate it, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix is one of my favorite HP movies. I guess it's because I never read the book.

I wouldn't say HP fans hate it. The film itself is fine, it's just that it's the most poorly adapted from the book out of all of the films. Goblet of Fire and Half-Blood Prince excised some important stuff too, but not nearly as much as OOTP.

[bullets]

Originally Posted by Parker Wayne

I really enjoyed OOTP and was a great beginning of a truly darker HP series. I enjoy all of the movies and I don't find any of them to be bad. I like how the series slowly got darker with the first half of the HP movies and then starting with OOTP (more specifically Cedric Diggory's death in GOF) that the time of innocence and peace was truly over. Fear was started to set over Harry at every moment after.

I feel like OOTP did an excellent job at of ushering the new status quo for Harry Potter that would be there until the end of the series.

I wasn't that much into Harry Potter until I saw OOTP. I never read the books , but got dragged to that film and it surprised me.

[DarkKnight]

Well since its a opinion thread and we are on the subject of HP.

I didnt like any of them. I honestly tried, tried more than once, but I just couldnt like them.

I guess its just not my cup of tea I suppose. Which is suprising as I enjoyed LOTR. Oh well.

[def28]

ASM is the most boring of the Spidey films. Not saying its the worst in terms of an overall film but def cant get though this one without falling asleep and find the others much more entertaining including 3.

[Spider-Aziz]

I never liked Who Framed Roger Rabbit, I don't even like the title character

As for Harry Potter movies I'm glad they don't follow the book stories so close, that would make them too long

[bullets]

The Mummy : Tomb of the Dragon Emperor is a good sequel.

[Soapy]

Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me is pretty good.