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If Heath was still alive Joker so would have been in this somewhere. Would have been great to have a real villain in it who wasn't doing his nasty stuff for someone else.
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Why would they say this? Why, if anybody, would it be Selina that would know? |
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I think it's because Selina is portrayed as very street smart and "in the know" when it comes to that sort of stuff. I mean considering she is currently the best working theif in Gotham, she might have even had a "professional respect" for Joker being able to hit a mob bank and get away clean.
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Think of the all the possible scenarios that could have played out from this. Brilliant. If Joker had been in the film, I could TOTALLY see something like this happening. |
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Lecter is like the Joker, the large than life scenery chewing Oscar winning villain of the piece.
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....How would the GA and yourselves have reacted if Nolan had Bane use Arkham as the Pit for the people he wanted tortured? Only, instead of nameless nobodies (Joker excluded), you'd see low-tier freaks like Croc, Zazz, and anyone else you care to name. We wouldn't have seen most of them on-screen prior to TDKR, so I don't know if critics would call it pointless or what.
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I do not think Joker would have been in TDKR in any major role either way. His job as a character was done. In a film that was destined to seek Bruce's catharsis, he just wouldn't have been a very good fit in a natural way. Sure, it's easy to write a small cameo, but I really do not think they would have wanted to keep him in there for the sake of it.
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Yeah, my idea would mean they need to leave the date of Batman's disappearance ambiguous or move it to two years after Dent died.
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The catch is--you would have some people saying he was underused. The key would be to make the majority of the Joker's scenes iconic, just as they did with the majority of Batman's sparse scenes.
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I thought that Bane would have loosed Joker out upon the city.
I think this because, thematically, Bruce goes through a different arc to the Gotham characters and city, despite Bane saying he will torture them both in the same way: their soul, via false hope. Bane feeds Bruce hope by putting him in an open prison, that he is allowed to attempt to escape. He feeds Gotham hope by seizing it away from the corrupt, and returning it to the people. Bruce loses his hope because he cannot make a jump that a child could. Gotham loses hope because....... Nothing visibly happened other than people stayed indoors, however, given Joker was likely a part of the formation of the Dent Act, he would have been freed, perhaps to deliver Gordon's speech, and have a reign of terror that removes Gotham's hope, perhaps it would be Joker that Robin stands up to, rather than Chris Judge. Then Joker, Batman and Robin could have had a scene together, where Joker gets to say his hello's and goodbyes. Batman shouldn't have a final soiree without Joker. |
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