Dammit, Janet! The official Wasp thread

[OrangeCloud]

What's with people thinking that Stephanie is sexually assaulting RDJ? If it were a dude in Stephanie's place, people would be asking, who is the dude about to beat the ever living crap out of Stark? I think the same applies.

[J'adore]

Originally Posted by chamber-music

I don't condone Hanks actions but there is a double standard from some people. If a women has a mental breakdown or even got into an arguement and slapped her husband or boyfriend they wouldn't say anything about it.


The whole issue was resolved years ago anyway. Hank and Janet have dated other people, got back together and broken up atleast three time since then.

Everytime a writer tries to move on with characters another writer drags it back up again and tries to make it a plotline despite it not having been one for a while.

Its down to the characters being B-listers. When Ironman was a B-list character you couldn't go a couple issues without someone bringing up his an alcoholic. Demon in a Bottle defined his character for a small time like the fall of Hank Pym defines him. I'm glad Dan Slott and others in recent years have actually tried to advance the character of Hank.

What...just...what....As a feminist, I'm offended. As a woman, I'm annoyed.

[cherokeesam]

Originally Posted by OrangeCloud

What's with people thinking that Stephanie is sexually assaulting RDJ? If it were a dude in Stephanie's place, people would be asking, who is the dude about to beat the ever living crap out of Stark? I think the same applies.

It's not a fight, because Tony isn't trying to fight back there. And look at the gif closely --- Szostak leans in close, drops her gaze to RDJ's lips and moves her mouth real close to his. Next frame, they're kissing, guar-own-teed.

If it were a dude in Stephanie's place, people would be asking, "Who's the gay guy?"

[Pink Ranger]

All this talk of slapping Janet Van Dyne makes it impossible for me not to post this:

VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

[CaptainStacy]

Originally Posted by chamber-music

I don't condone Hanks actions but there is a double standard from some people. If a women has a mental breakdown or even got into an arguement and slapped her husband or boyfriend they wouldn't say anything about it.


The whole issue was resolved years ago anyway. Hank and Janet have dated other people, got back together and broken up atleast three time since then.

Everytime a writer tries to move on with characters another writer drags it back up again and tries to make it a plotline despite it not having been one for a while.

Its down to the characters being B-listers. When Ironman was a B-list character you couldn't go a couple issues without someone bringing up his an alcoholic. Demon in a Bottle defined his character for a small time like the fall of Hank Pym defines him. I'm glad Dan Slott and others in recent years have actually tried to advance the character of Hank.

Same here.

[pr0xyt0xin]

Originally Posted by chamber-music

I don't condone Hanks actions but there is a double standard from some people. If a women has a mental breakdown or even got into an arguement and slapped her husband or boyfriend they wouldn't say anything about it.

I'd leave a woman for hitting me. I wouldn't leave a woman for being mentally broken.

[Hawkingbird]

Although I agree that many men suffer in silence over domestic violence, I too as a feminist, find the generalisation of chamber-music's post offensive.

[chamber-music]

Well I don't mean to offend to anyone but domestic violence against men is viewed as less serious in society than domestic violence against women. I don't think thats generalising.

I feel this is an issue for another anyway.

[Hawkingbird]

No, I do agree. More men need to speak up about it.

[Edguy]

A man getting bit** slapped once =/= domestic violence..

[Hawkingbird]

What costume would everyone want Janet having? I love her most recent one:

[R_Hythlodeus]

Originally Posted by Hawkingbird

What costume would everyone want Janet having? I love her most recent one:

sooo many to choose from:

[Majik1387]

Oh my wow! I don't know where you got all those but thank you!

[Artistsean]

I think this version of the costume could be transfered into the movie easiest. Like Captain America's movie costumes, or Thor's or SHIELD's uniforms, Hawkeye's and Black Widow's, this version is made from leathery fabrics, and has layers or material and different sections and parts like their movie costumes. I could see something like this being the jumping off point in the movies at least.


Of coarse the costume would have to also match whatever Ant Man's costume would be. But I see it following the same patterns as the Avengers movie characters too. Durable looking materials, different parts and sections, straps and zippers, belts, armored sections, metal, stuff like that.

[R_Hythlodeus]

Originally Posted by Majik1387

Oh my wow! I don't know where you got all those but thank you!

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[Dark Raven]

Originally Posted by Artistsean

I think this version of the costume could be transfered into the movie easiest. Like Captain America's movie costumes, or Thor's or SHIELD's uniforms, Hawkeye's and Black Widow's, this version is made from leathery fabrics, and has layers or material and different sections and parts like their movie costumes. I could see something like this being the jumping off point in the movies at least.


Of coarse the costume would have to also match whatever Ant Man's costume would be. But I see it following the same patterns as the Avengers movie characters too. Durable looking materials, different parts and sections, straps and zippers, belts, armored sections, metal, stuff like that.

Why does it need to match? This isn't X-men and besides, Jan is a fashion designer and always changes her costume so it can look however she fancies.

[cherokeesam]

Dark Raven's right. In the final analysis, if MCU Jan is the same kind of fashion designer that MU Jan is, she might as well have more costume changes than Cher, even within a single Ant-Man and/or Avenger movie. That would be true to her character.

[Majik1387]

I'm fine with multiple costumes for super heroes in movies; especially if it's a tribute to their comic costumes and not just different to sell toys and merchandise, though I'm not nervous about that with Marvel Studios at all.

[Artistsean]

I'm not saying it has to look like a uniform for all the Avengers, I just mean it has to look like its from the same universe. You can't have the Avengers look how they look and then have her wearing tight spandex or rubber armor or something. I mean it has to look similar in that they were from the same universe. It also has to look good standing next to the rest. Again if they look how they look and she looks silly or less detailed or more detailed by comparison. So the version I found is by a cosplayer named Riddle and she takes the costumes to movie quality. I could see them going down a similar path for the movie. With seems, and variations in fabric, and materials. I could see that costume standing next to the Avengers in the movies and fitting in, whereas as cool as some of the comic versions of the costumes look, some of them I can't see transferring well into live action.

[Hawkingbird]

I liked her Ultimate uniform when it was a cross between the 616.

[TheAQU4M4N]

Krysten Ritter?

[chamber-music]

Do you guys think they should bring up that part of Hank Pyms attraction to Janet is that she reminds him of his dead wife Maria?

On the one hand its kind of creepy but on the other hand its part of the source of their relationship problems.

[Hawkingbird]

It would certainly be interesting.

[metaphysician]

I don't see why not. Or rather, I see it as a fraught minefield of potential problems, but not really any moreso than anything else having to do with Pym's story and characterization.

[chamber-music]

Vartha posted a link to some custom Ant-Man & Wasp action figures in the fan art thread. The Wasp action figure has modified Tron wings which got thinking it might be cool if Wasp had high tech wings like the ones in Tron.

Visually it would look cool and might seperate the design from Angel Salvadore in X-Men First Class. It would be different from what they might go with for Falcon as well.