The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - Part 141

[jacobed]

Originally Posted by Nathan

He was falls off a building, holding Rachel and crashes into a Taxi, walks away without a scratch. He drops a couple feet after tackling Harvey, injures his leg.

Couple of feet? It was minimum the second story of a building, falling straight down, no cape. He didnt fully get his cape out when with Rachel but he was able to keep half deploying it to slow their momentum enough to make the impact non consquential.

[Nathan]

Ok, so it was higher, but the other scene is still ridiculous. Two people falling off a building, with a half assed opened cape, for the last 2-3 seconds, reduces their momentum to the point they walk away without injury?

[The Caped Knight]

Originally Posted by BlueLightning

He managed to open his cape with the Rachel incident whereas at the end with Harvey he couldn't.

Right because he was holding unto a piece of the ledge while holding Gordon's son in his other arm long enough for Gordon to reach and pull his son to safety. Also keep in mind that Batman had already endured much damage to his body from his battle with The Joker who released dogs on him, beat him with a metal pipe, stabbed him a few times with a knife, Then had him pined down against a guillotine . Two-Face then shot Batman. With all the pain Bruce experienced that night it was clear he didn't have enough strength to protect himself from the fall.

[antsman41]

Originally Posted by The Caped Knight

Right because he was holding unto a piece of the ledge while holding Gordon's son in his other arm long enough for Gordon to reach and pull his son to safety. Also keep in mind that Batman had already endured much damage to his body from his battle with The Joker who released dogs on him, beat him with a metal pipe, stabbed him a few times with a knife, Then had him pined down against a guillotine . Two-Face then shot Batman. With all the pain Bruce experienced that night it was clear he didn't have enough strength to protect himself from the fall.

[BlueLightning]

Originally Posted by The Caped Knight

Right because he was holding unto a piece of the ledge while holding Gordon's son in his other arm long enough for Gordon to reach and pull his son to safety. Also keep in mind that Batman had already endured much damage to his body from his battle with The Joker who released dogs on him, beat him with a metal pipe, stabbed him a few times with a knife, Then had him pined down against a guillotine . Two-Face then shot Batman. With all the pain Bruce experienced that night it was clear he didn't have enough strength to protect himself from the fall.

I'm still amazed at how many people take all of this for granted. I always liked that at the end of the film he was so battered that he could barely speak.

[MagnarTheGreat]

Fun with the timeline

• 8 years before before Bruce is sent to the Pit -> Batman's last sighting & outing/injured Bruce begins*; Gordon's "I believed in Harvey Dent" speech
  
• 3 years before before Bruce is sent to the Pit -> Pavel publishes weaponized fusion reaction research paper. Bruce confines himself to Wayne Manor after stopping the fusion reactor project that Miranda helped fund
• 2 years before Bruce is sent to the Pit -> Wayne Foundation stops funding orphan boys homes
  
• 6 months before Bruce is sent to the Pit -> Bane abducts and fakes the death of Pavel
• 5 months before the nuclear bomb goes off -> Pavel turns the fusion reactor into the nuclear bomb after Miranda and Lucius authorize the reactor
• 23 days before the nuclear bomb goes off -> Captain Jones meets with Lucius and Miranda; the special forces men are hung and Bruce watches on TV in the Pit before making one last unsuccessful attempt to climb out before making a successful one
  
• 1 day before the nuclear bomb goes off -> Bruce reveals himself to be in alive and back in Gotham to Selina Kyle
• 18 hours before the nuclear bomb goes off -> Gordon discusses finding the bomb truck and freaks out when Foley doesn't show up to the meeting
• 12 hours before the nuclear bomb goes off -> Bruce meets with Lucius and Miranda as Selina Kyle arrives to free Bruce and Lucius
• 45 minutes before the nuclear bomb goes off -> Batman gives Selina the Batpod
• 11 minutes before the nuclear bomb goes off -> Time left when Talia figures out her signal to detonate the bomb has been blocked by Gordon
• 1 minute 57 seconds before the nuclear bomb goes off -> Batman hooks the bomb up to the Bat
  
• 6 months before Lucius meets with engineers to talk about the Bat -> the Bat's autopilot is fixed by Bruce
  
  * Injured in the fall following Dent's fall at the end of TDK

Got all that? I doubt many did the first time through.

[BlueLightning]

Seems right at first glance, I need to rewatch the film, I'm waiting until I can go to pick up a Blu Ray copy at Best Buy. I did a similar exercise not to long ago: http://forums.superherohype.com/show...5&postcount=89

[georgec]

Originally Posted by BlueLightning

I'm still amazed at how many people take all of this for granted. I always liked that at the end of the film he was so battered that he could barely speak.

Plus when he's running from the cops to the Batpod during the final scenes, he's clearly limping and hunched over, leaning against some of the large storage crates.

[uros3d]

So guys I got this video montage from TDKR I made recently and I want to share it with you. Where should I post it? Is this thread appropriate?

Been lurking here a while

[Cory]

Originally Posted by uros3d

So guys I got this video montage from TDKR I made recently and I want to share it with you. Where should I post it? Is this thread appropriate?

Been lurking here a while

go for it...

[uros3d]

Well, here it is:

VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

A short montage of my favorite bit from the movie. Just Bane owning Batman... I was very thrilled when I watched this in cinema for the first time, especially the "back massage".

The background music is from the official soundtrack, just thought it would add more to the badassness of Bane.

[antsman41]

It's funny how people dig on this film not having a "Gotham City citizen" pov of the events, but when Nolan does those things in TDK (Harvey Conference, Ferrys) & Begins (WE attendent, street folk) they hate on those characters.

We can't have our cake and eat it to.

I loved when those normal people chimed in, I sort of wish we saw more of that in Rises.

[BlueLightning]

Talking about that, I made a blog called "The Best Incidental Characters of The Dark Knight Trilogy". I picked my top ten favorites and made little bios about them, accompanied with images and gifs. It is in spanish, but check it out, just for the chuckles.

The Best Incidental Characters of The Dark Knight Trilogy

[Excelsior.]

Anyone sort of blown away by the Imax footage? TDK Imax scenes looked great, but this one is of an even higher quality. The 35mm footage looks good too; a vast improvement over TDK's butchered 35mm scenes. But the Imax footage is up there with Baraka and Avatar: REFERENCE QUALITY.

[CoolCadaver49]

I have GOT to see a movie in Imax. Seriously, I don't know how I haven't yet.

[MagnarTheGreat]

It looks great. It's fun to look in the background to see weird crap going on or reaction shots.

[antsman41]

I don't know what I enjoy most; the Fredricks or Crispus Allen cameos?

[ThePhantasm]

Originally Posted by CoolCadaver49

I have GOT to see a movie in Imax. Seriously, I don't know how I haven't yet.

Make sure you pick one like TDKR that was filmed with IMAX cameras. Don't pick one that has simply been "blown up" to fit the IMAX screen.

[Anno_Domini]

Originally Posted by antsman41

I don't know what I enjoy most; the Fredricks or Crispus Allen cameos?

Crispus Allen, imo, simply because we already see Fredericks in BB.

[Bane Cook]

Originally Posted by Excelsior.

Anyone sort of blown away by the Imax footage? TDK Imax scenes looked great, but this one is of an even higher quality. The 35mm footage looks good too; a vast improvement over TDK's butchered 35mm scenes. But the Imax footage is up there with Baraka and Avatar: REFERENCE QUALITY.

How was it butchered? Just curious. This is the first time I've heard of this

[TheDarkKnight08]

Originally Posted by antsman41

It's funny how people dig on this film not having a "Gotham City citizen" pov of the events, but when Nolan does those things in TDK (Harvey Conference, Ferrys) & Begins (WE attendent, street folk) they hate on those characters.

We can't have our cake and eat it to.

I loved when those normal people chimed in, I sort of wish we saw more of that in Rises.

Spot on, actually.

I feel like the Gothamite POV was more in line with TDK and the Joker's reign of chaos, as TDKR was more Bruce's story. I never once thought that putting that in this one would make it better or anything.

[The Joker]

A movie where the villain's plan was about a revolution with the people of Gotham. Where Batman comes back after 8 years. Where the Harvey Dent lie is exposed.

The Gotham POV was most important of all for TDKR.

[Anno_Domini]

Originally Posted by The Joker

A movie where the villain's plan was about a revolution with the people of Gotham. Where Batman comes back after 8 years. Where the Harvey Dent lie is exposed.

The Gotham POV was most important of all for TDKR.

Most important? Not creating an ending for Bruce's story?

[TheDarkKnight08]

Originally Posted by The Joker

A movie where the villain's plan was about a revolution with the people of Gotham. Where Batman comes back after 8 years. Where the Harvey Dent lie is exposed.

The Gotham POV was most important of all for TDKR.

I'm not going to argue. I'm not saying it shouldn't have been included, I'm just saying I felt TDKR was more Bruce's story.

I just personally feel that they would've been repeating themselves on certain aspects, seeing how Gothamites react, having them argue about what to do, etc., just like in TDK. TDK was seriously lacking in focusing on Bruce, so I liked this one a lot better for that.

[Excelsior.]

Originally Posted by Bane Cook

How was it butchered? Just curious. This is the first time I've heard of this

They transferred from an Imax source which meant the 35mm scenes were blown up, resulting in lots and lots of unwanted artifacts as well as Edge Enhancement and Digital Noise Reduction. The Blu-ray transfer retained all of that producing an underwhelming picture for the non-Imax scenes. This time around I think they rectified their mistakes and transferred the Imax and 35mm sources separately.