The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - Part 141 - Page 39

Cory · 12-04-2012, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Joker

A movie where the villain's plan was about a revolution with the people of Gotham. Where Batman comes back after 8 years. Where the Harvey Dent lie is exposed.

The Gotham POV was most important of all for TDKR.

100% agree... its a mix of Bruce's story ending, but that HAS to involve the people of Gotham given the circumstances and that is what Bruce set out to save...the City.

The Joker · 12-04-2012, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

Most important? Not creating an ending for Bruce's story?

I am saying out of the trilogy, Gotham's POV was needed most of all in TDKR for the aforementioned reasons.

Cory · 12-04-2012, 10:51 PM

the only time it really showed the citizens was when Bane was enjoying sideline seats at the football game.

TheDarkKnight08 · 12-04-2012, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Joker

I am saying out of the trilogy, Gotham's POV was needed most of all in TDKR for the aforementioned reasons.

You see, I sorta agree with you, but, to me, the lack of Gotham's POV wasn't enough to deter my enjoyment of the film. I was so invested in Bruce's journey coming to the end he deserved. Again, had the focus on Gotham not been so strong in TDK, I would've 100% agreed with you, but such isn't the case.

A Necessary Evil · 12-04-2012, 10:54 PM

Anyone know where I can download the second screen app for my Iphone?

antsman41 · 12-04-2012, 10:55 PM

I noticed that Bane is shown making nooses with string a few times in the film...

The Joker · 12-04-2012, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cory

100% agree... its a mix of Bruce's story ending, but that HAS to involve the people of Gotham given the circumstances and that is what Bruce set out to save...the City.

Exactly. I like that Nolan always gave Gotham a personality. Since Batman was all about saving Gotham, Nolan cared enough to give the little people of Gotham a voice and personality.

We get the most Gotham centric plot in TDKR. A revolution of the people for 5 months. The Harvey Dent lie is exposed. Batman comes back after 8 years. Big events for Gotham City.

Excelsior. · 12-04-2012, 10:58 PM

I still can't believe we don't see even a single reaction shot of the reporters and photographers present when Bane exposes Dent.

Cory · 12-04-2012, 11:02 PM

There are only two types of people in this world...

Cops and Convicts.

Cory · 12-04-2012, 11:04 PM

Scratch that...

three types.

Cops, Convicts, and Wayne Enterprises Board Members.

BlueLightning · 12-04-2012, 11:05 PM

Don't forget orphans, rich people, unenmployed people, crazy youngsters...

A Necessary Evil · 12-04-2012, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Excelsior.

I still can't believe we don't see even a single reaction shot of the reporters and photographers present when Bane exposes Dent.

"It's...hard to believe what's happening....the brutality of it....I can't take it anymore. This may be the end of Gotham, as we know it."

Cory · 12-04-2012, 11:06 PM

in order to be considered, you need more than 10 seconds of screen time.

silly minorities

kvz5 · 12-04-2012, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Necessary Evil

"It's...hard to believe what's happening....the brutality of it....I can't take it anymore. This may be the end of Gotham, as we know it."

Excelsior. · 12-04-2012, 11:07 PM

If only we got a patient look at the lower class. We usually only saw their fleeting forms in the chaos of a montage. Either that or their silhouettes.

Excelsior. · 12-04-2012, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Necessary Evil

"It's...hard to believe what's happening....the brutality of it....I can't take it anymore. This may be the end of Gotham, as we know it."

William Shatner was there?

Cory · 12-04-2012, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Necessary Evil

"It's...hard to believe what's happening....the brutality of it....I can't take it anymore. This may be the end of Gotham, as we know it."

Your avatar makes me want to smash my laptop.

A Necessary Evil · 12-04-2012, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kvz5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Excelsior.

William Shatner was there?

Spider-Man 3 joke, Lol

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Originally Posted by Cory

Your avatar makes me want to smash my laptop.

Why?

Cory · 12-04-2012, 11:17 PM

William Shatner?

haha all I can think about now is how the reporter says 'brutality'..

'the brutowelty uhf it'

and @Neccessary Evil... 1. Talias evil ass not being an evil ass and helping Bane instead of being an evil ass and letting him die. 2. it is a widescreen avvy!

A Necessary Evil · 12-04-2012, 11:18 PM

LOL well I need to fix the laser on my mac, until then, only youtube avvys.

Anno_Domini · 12-04-2012, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Joker

I am saying out of the trilogy, Gotham's POV was needed most of all in TDKR for the aforementioned reasons.

Ahh, okay. Gotcha.

Anno_Domini · 12-04-2012, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cory

There are only two types of people in this world...

Cops and Convicts.

In the end, that's what it's all about in the final act, though.

Needless to say, we do see orphans and Wayne Enterprises board members as much as we got Wayne Enterprises board members and "street folk" in Batman Begins.

BatLobsterRises · 12-05-2012, 01:12 AM

I have to say...I think originally I felt a bit put off by the fact that the climax took place during the day. It felt jarring considering not only did the previous two Nolan films have the climax at night, but so did every single Batman movie (minus the 66 version) and most Batman stories in general.

Now, I've really come around to it. It all comes back to Memento for me and even Insomnia, and how Nolan set out to invert film noir conventions with those films by having them both take place almost strictly during daylight. And this series had been heading in that direction after TDK really upped the stakes by having a lot of the carnage happen during the day. I always "got" why having Batman fighting with the police during the day was an appropriate story beat for the climax of the trilogy, but now it's starting to really sink in on a gut level. In fact, I really think the whole final chase is somewhat underrated. It's fast and furious, the Bat is just marvelous to watch, and the only thing cooler than Batman on the Bat-pod is Catwoman on the Bat-pod

. To top it off, the wintery daytime setting really adds a layer of bleakness to it all. Almost like it's foreshadowing the potential nuclear winter that's awaiting Gotham.

kvz5 · 12-05-2012, 11:58 AM

Anyone here a part of the WGA because this sounds awesome:

Quote:

THURSDAY, DECEMBER 6, 2012 at 7:30PM
WRITERS GUILD THEATER
135 SOUTH DOHENY DRIVE
Parking available at the theater.

THE SCREENING WILL BE IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWED BY A DISCUSSION WITH:

DIRECTOR/CO-SCREENWRITER/PRODUCER
CHRISTOPHER NOLAN

THE FILM’S STAR
CHRISTIAN BALE

COMPOSER
HANS ZIMMER

BlueLightning · 12-05-2012, 12:24 PM

Michael Caine talks about The Dark Knight Trilogy

12-04-2012, 10:51 PM	#953
Cory STOP LAUGHING! Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 17,754	Re: The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - Part 141 the only time it really showed the citizens was when Bane was enjoying sideline seats at the football game. __________________ You can't be a hero and a killer... IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY!

12-04-2012, 10:55 PM	#956
antsman41 "Escalation?" Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 4,178	Re: The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - Part 141 I noticed that Bane is shown making nooses with string a few times in the film... __________________ RIP Damian Wayne Soldier, Friend, & Son "Why do we fall, sir? So, we can learn to pick ourselves up." I • N • T • E • R • S • T • E • L • L • A • R

12-04-2012, 10:58 PM	#958
Excelsior. Side-Kick Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New York Posts: 9,114	Re: The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - Part 141 I still can't believe we don't see even a single reaction shot of the reporters and photographers present when Bane exposes Dent.

12-04-2012, 11:02 PM	#959
Cory STOP LAUGHING! Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 17,754	Re: The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - Part 141 There are only two types of people in this world... Cops and Convicts. __________________ You can't be a hero and a killer... IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY!

12-04-2012, 11:04 PM	#960
Cory STOP LAUGHING! Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 17,754	Re: The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - Part 141 Scratch that... three types. Cops, Convicts, and Wayne Enterprises Board Members. __________________ You can't be a hero and a killer... IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY!

12-04-2012, 11:05 PM	#961
BlueLightning Caballero de la Luz Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,089	Re: The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - Part 141 Don't forget orphans, rich people, unenmployed people, crazy youngsters... __________________ "Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened. You can lock them away... forever." The Joker "Batman: Promises" "Harley Quinn: Ridiculous Thoughts" "La Broma Mortal"

12-04-2012, 11:06 PM	#963
Cory STOP LAUGHING! Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 17,754	Re: The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - Part 141 in order to be considered, you need more than 10 seconds of screen time. silly minorities __________________ You can't be a hero and a killer... IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY!

12-04-2012, 11:07 PM	#965
Excelsior. Side-Kick Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New York Posts: 9,114	Re: The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - Part 141 If only we got a patient look at the lower class. We usually only saw their fleeting forms in the chaos of a montage. Either that or their silhouettes.

12-04-2012, 11:17 PM	#969
Cory STOP LAUGHING! Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 17,754	Re: The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - Part 141 William Shatner? haha all I can think about now is how the reporter says 'brutality'.. 'the brutowelty uhf it' and @Neccessary Evil... 1. Talias evil ass not being an evil ass and helping Bane instead of being an evil ass and letting him die. 2. it is a widescreen avvy! __________________ You can't be a hero and a killer... IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY!

12-05-2012, 01:12 AM	#973
BatLobsterRises Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 3,536	Re: The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - Part 141 I have to say...I think originally I felt a bit put off by the fact that the climax took place during the day. It felt jarring considering not only did the previous two Nolan films have the climax at night, but so did every single Batman movie (minus the 66 version) and most Batman stories in general. Now, I've really come around to it. It all comes back to Memento for me and even Insomnia, and how Nolan set out to invert film noir conventions with those films by having them both take place almost strictly during daylight. And this series had been heading in that direction after TDK really upped the stakes by having a lot of the carnage happen during the day. I always "got" why having Batman fighting with the police during the day was an appropriate story beat for the climax of the trilogy, but now it's starting to really sink in on a gut level. In fact, I really think the whole final chase is somewhat underrated. It's fast and furious, the Bat is just marvelous to watch, and the only thing cooler than Batman on the Bat-pod is Catwoman on the Bat-pod . To top it off, the wintery daytime setting really adds a layer of bleakness to it all. Almost like it's foreshadowing the potential nuclear winter that's awaiting Gotham. __________________ IMAGINE THE FIRE My TDKR cover My MOS Trailer 3 score recreation

12-05-2012, 12:24 PM	#975
BlueLightning Caballero de la Luz Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,089	Re: The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - Part 141 Michael Caine talks about The Dark Knight Trilogy __________________ "Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened. You can lock them away... forever." The Joker "Batman: Promises" "Harley Quinn: Ridiculous Thoughts" "La Broma Mortal"

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