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“In the preview, a voice-over is heard with the oath of the God of Thunder as the new supreme ruler."
...I take that very much to mean that Odin is dead and Thor has inherited the throne of Asgard. Kinda suspected that already: Daddy (and maybe Mommy, too) leave Thor an orphan in this flick. We see a clash between Thor and the enemy army, in a world that is neither Asgard let alone the Earth Wish they had a better description of this world. And why they could tell immediately that it was neither Asgard nor Earth. Against the backdrop of a forest, in the middle of a clearing, among the dust, we in fact face off anthropomorphic creatures, but also a big "gorilla" krosan tusker: a rather alien fauna varies so, although not extreme in size (there are also some envoys/ambassadors of a people mysterious, with oval face and black eyes, elongated and sunken) I had to look it up. A "krosan tusker" is a warthog-like critter from the card game Magic: The Gathering. Obviously, that's not what the creature actually is in the movie; but I found it vaguely humorous that an Italian brought in a Magic reference.
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![]() As for what was shown. I am not sure about the part with Natlie Portman dressed up like a princess. Hopefully, it has to do with a formality of her being present in the Asgardian court (like someone else had mentioned here), but I really hope they don't make her a real princess of Asgard. Also, as for the part where they mention Loki's imprisonment and his increasing anger it makes me feel like he is not looking for redemption in this movie, but instead to stir things up (which kind of contradicts earlier reports that suggest he would be looking to right his wrongs). So, I guess we will see what happens there. Surfer
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![]() At some point a long while back I had read speculation about how it was Jane's turn in this film to be the fish out of water. It occurred to me that having to dress up in some princess getup and worry about whether she has to curtsey and what fork to use would certainly make Jane feel out of place and uncomfortable. So there's still potential fun to be had from that bit. Quote:
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But what a tough way to start off one's reign, with all these troubles underway! And it has a different implication for a showdown with Malekith on Earth. So maybe a coronation, if there is one, is later in the film. |
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However, while it goes along with the Lawden spoiler of why Thor is the one who has to make a "truce" and work with Loki, it does not go along with the idea that Loki is the only one who has access to the other side of Asgard, since it seems like a King Thor should be able to do that. Quote:
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Regarding the lighted hammer, does anyone know if Mjolnir has been depicted that way in the books? If so, what was the context? (ie, story line, only when Thor had X power that he later lost, etc) |
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Thor assuming the throne doesn't have to mean Odin's dead; just that there's been a peaceful transfer of power to the heir. Like the original plan in Thor 1. At any rate, it's safe to say Thor is now the rightful King of Asgard. I still hope he has to make a decision between Asgard and Midgard, though --- all this high fantasy is nice and all, but if he intends to keep his Avengers Membership Card (tm) in good standing, he's going to have to go back to Superhero Thor instead of Norse God Thor. ![]()
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![]() Really now I'm more concerned about him being too powerful when he goes to fight beside the Avengers and future Thor films. the problem being that nothing will convincingly challenge him from now on. ![]() I think he will have to at some point choose between Midgard and Asgard. Again the theme of "Moral Sacrifice" will certainly be involved and it seems like him having to decide between the defense and needs of Midgard and the defense and needs of Asgard is an issue that his character really needs to deal with at some point, especially if he is King of Asgard. It's like having an American president constantly going over to be sure France is okay. ![]() |
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Man Elizah, when does your shift end? LOL jk
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I'm guessing Jane will get bored pretty quickly with swanning around in an Asgardian toga. I could see her choosing her career back on earth over a wifey role by Thor's side.
Hope to hear something about Sif's story in the movie. As for Loki - I like him but I don't want the plot to revolve around him seeking revenge etc. I also really really don't want to see Thor sucked in by Loki's manipulations yet again. Thor at least needs to be shown to have a certain amount of savvy when it comes to being alert to Loki's games. CH said a while ago that he wanted Thor to wise up a bit and not just be a whopping chunk of brainless beefcake. |
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So actually he could well choose between being king and being a superhero. And it wouldn't be a huge departure from the source material. For the logistical reasons you both mention (Avengers 2, 3, etc. . .), it seems very logical that he would decline the throne. |
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Now, (as I mentioned in some other thread or another, forget which one) it seems like being in Asgard could give her the opportunity to continue to work in her field, assuming she could still communicate with Earth on a regular basis. Depending on Asgard's physical location, she might be able to conduct measurements that no one on Earth has been able to so far. One could get a lot of papers out of that ![]() ![]() Quote:
That said, "people being sucked in by Loki's manipulations yet again" summarizes not only much of the Thor comics, but much of the Norse myth as well. So it's hard to get away from that and still be honoring what is canon ![]() Yeah, really! Sif and the Warriors Three were all supposed to have expanded roles (Heimdall too!), and yet we hear almost nothing about what will happen with them. What's with that? |
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Ha! Probably not. She's not all that good at driving a car--lol!
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That theme of moral sacrifice. Thor leaving asgard for earth? That theme most likely has to be felt through out the movie. if Odin dies, this means Thor inherits the throne at the end. I don't think Thor will abandon Asgard after his father got killed, at the end of the movie. Asgard is possibly damaged, Odin is dead, its his world now. He wouldn't leave it. Which leaves me with two ideas, one, the moral sacrifice happens earlier in the film, he abandons asgard earlier on, and there are mild reprocussions for it. Movie goes on, ultimately odin dies, thor is king, and now will stay in asgard till avengers 2. OR this is a bit twisty, but hear me out. What if Thor's moral sacrifice is abandoning midgard, not asgard? We KNOW he loves earth. What if, while he is on earth, he makes a vow not to leave, and to protect earth. However, Odin dies, and Thor KNOWS he needs to return to Asgard where he is needed. Leaving behind a world he swore to protect? That could be one way to impliment moral sacrifice. If Thor becomes king in this movie, it seems more cinematic for it to happen at the end. Who knows, maybe the surtur arc will be completed in this movie Quote:
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Have the images from the presentation been posted here? The first is an official photo from Professional Cinema Days. I love the intensity Thor/Chris projects. (Courtesy of Tumblr, naturally.)
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Well, that's not actually Chris.
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No not yet xeno000, so thanks for posting the two pics. Surfer
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![]() Well it's not a photo of Chris, but it is artwork of Chris as Thor. Surfer
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