Originally Posted by BatLobsterRises
I agree. Sure, on paper it sounds like it could be a complete rehash. I remember someone made this WAY back before any details about TDKR were known and it became something of a meme on here if I'm not mistaken:
Now, it is
kind of funny how strangely on target that is, but the thing is- the execution of these elements in TDKR made it feel completely fresh and exciting, to me anyway. A lot of that has to do with Bane and the type of evil that he represents.
What's so messed up about Bane and Talia's LOS is that it's like they themselves inflict a situation upon Gotham wherein it's allowed to become more and more morally depraved and in need of "cleansing". Then again, this may not be so dissimilar to Ra's after all since he himself originally attacked Gotham economically, which helped grow it into the cesspool of crime and corruption we saw in Batman Begins. But that's a very subtle similarity.
I also just really love that Ra's al Ghul casts such a shadow over the trilogy. He is given some of the most iconic and important lines in one of the first scenes of Begins
, and they echo very strongly into Rises
If we compare this trilogy to The Godfather
, Liam is the Vito to Bale's Michael. Only it would be a story where Michael ultimately rejects the mafia lifestyle and chooses a path of good. There's just a lot of richness there, especially when you get into Bane and Bruce being the two estranged sons of Ra's, individually embodying his best and worst qualities.
It's also awesomely ironice that Bane really is what ra's had intended Bruce to become, but had shunned away out of the pain from his loss. But I do love how Ra's does influence the entire series. Including what kind of a Batman he becomes in TDK and subsequently TDKR.
As for Riddler, he would have been similar to Joker simply because of the kind of threat he provides and the kind of mental strain he would've wanted to implement would be to push Bruce in a way very similar to Joker. Not that he COULDN'T have made him different and interesting, but there would have been so much complaining about the similarity, and lack of a really physical villain.