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Old 12-10-2012, 08:49 PM   #576
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Okay. The movie wasn't perfect and niether are any of the Nolan Bat films.

I forgot that Iron Man made it in 2008. The just proves that AFI's top ten doesn't mean Oscar nom for best picture.
It was a joke, I just found it funny the people questioning everyone's motivations in the TDKR.

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Old 12-10-2012, 08:57 PM   #577
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Okay. The movie wasn't perfect and niether are any of the Nolan Bat films.

I forgot that Iron Man made it in 2008. The just proves that AFI's top ten doesn't mean Oscar nom for best picture.
How does that prove anything? The nominees were extended because of TDK wasn't nominated, but that was in the same year as IM was released as well. Who knows if IM would have been nominated.

Although, to give us a clue of how AFI's lists fits into the Oscars nominees for Best Film(the bold represents what films were indeed nominated):

2011

Bridesmaids
The Descendants
The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo
The Help
Hugo

J. Edgar
Midnight in Paris
Moneyball
The Tree of Life
War Horse


2010

Black Swan
The Fighter
Inception
The Kids Are All Right
127 Hours
The Social Network

The Town
Toy Story 3
True Grit
Winter's Bone


2009

Coraline
The Hangover
The Hurt Locker
The Messenger
Precious
A Serious Man

A Single Man
Sugar
Up
Up In The Air


2008

The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
The Dark Knight
Frost/Nixon
Frozen River
Gran Torino
Iron Man
Milk
Wall-E
Wendy and Lucy
The Wrestler

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But what is canon really? The comics change constantly, and every interpretation brings something new, which is enriching. For me, The Dark Knight Trilogy is as canon as the DCAU. They are different, but I love them.
That's what I've always thought, that it's futile to try and gauge what's canon when there's been so many different interpretations of the character that have impacted the main continuity. Something like The Dark Knight Returns, for instance, is technically "else-world" but it has had an incredible amount of influence on everything Batman that came after it, including the Burton and Nolan films. So I really don't care what's canon and what isn't at the end of the day, they're all valid interpretations and stories.

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Hobbit getting mediocre reception won't hurt. Les Mis getting mediocre reception also won't hurt. I still think Skyfall is more likely to get the Oscar "blockbuster spot." AFI is likely counting Skyfall as a British film instead of American film, so they didn't include it in their list. Funny thing is Skyfall is just as American as TDKR (both funded by Hollywood).

When it comes time to do Oscar nominations, there is a pretty big contingency of British Academy voters who will likely support Skyfall. TDKR is not likely to have the same kind of support from American Academy voters. Neither film stands a good chance of getting nominated, but I would give Skyfall the better odds.
Which is ironic seeing as TDKR might be more of a british film than skyfall. I mean when you count its director and cast it's chock full of brits. Although Bond does have a role in the hearts of brits that's hard to compare to.

Still there has never been a bond nominated before in 50 years and i don't think the bond brand is something that people associate at all with the oscars. Hell i think CR was better than skyfall and it had no oscar buzz at all.

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Old 12-10-2012, 10:24 PM   #580
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There are rumors that the BFCA (Critics Choice) are adding some new categories like Action and Comedy. It's probably an attempt to pull in more stars in their broadcast but if that's true (I think they announce the nominees tom?) then I expect TDKR to get some nods there (along with movies like Hunger Games, The Avengers, Skyfall, etc.).

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Old 12-10-2012, 11:13 PM   #581
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i'm not sure if casino royale was oscar worthy, but craig's performance at least deserved a nomination. maybe for skyfall too.

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i'm not sure if casino royale was oscar worthy, but craig's performance at least deserved a nomination. maybe for skyfall too.
CR definitely wasn't Oscar-worthy from a script standpoint. The story falls apart as soon as Le Chiffre gets killed and then it turns into a cheesy romance with some of the worst dialogue ever. Skyfall had a much better third act.

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Old 12-11-2012, 01:52 AM   #583
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Disagree. While I enjoyed Skyfall, and it is the best looking Bond movie, the plot is pretty thin. Silva lets himself get caught by Bond to...do what again? Implant a virus in MI6 he could anyway? To sneak into London to get to M at Parliament, which he could have done anyway without MI6 knowing he was there or who he was (and thereby failing to stop him)? Then the third act while entertaining tries to feel profound, but it is just the same third act as Straw Dogs--either version--or even Home Alone where Bond fails to stop Silva.

Casino Royale, while having a very flabby first act (great opening sequences in Prague and Madagascar, but the stuff in Miami and the Caribbean was just there to fluff up the action and runningtime) pulls itself together when it gets to the titular casino. The character work between Bond and Vesper is better than anything in Skyfall and therefore her loss is more deeply felt. The third act doesn't lose its focus, it zeroes in on Bond and Vesper and works for the best.

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Disagree. While I enjoyed Skyfall, and it is the best looking Bond movie, the plot is pretty thin. Silva lets himself get caught by Bond to...do what again? Implant a virus in MI6 he could anyway? To sneak into London to get to M at Parliament, which he could have done anyway without MI6 knowing he was there or who he was (and thereby failing to stop him)? Then the third act while entertaining tries to feel profound, but it is just the same third act as Straw Dogs--either version--or even Home Alone where Bond fails to stop Silva.

Casino Royale, while having a very flabby first act (great opening sequences in Prague and Madagascar, but the stuff in Miami and the Caribbean was just there to fluff up the action and runningtime) pulls itself together when it gets to the titular casino. The character work between Bond and Vesper is better than anything in Skyfall and therefore her loss is more deeply felt. The third act doesn't lose its focus, it zeroes in on Bond and Vesper and works for the best.

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Love Skyfall but this is money. It wants to be the best of the Daniel Craig films but it's just not.

 
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I think it has the most personal and character driven plot of any Bond film since License to Kill. The whole thing is about MI6 as a family unit and the complex bonds formed within. I can see why people find that unsatisfactory, but I think it makes a good change from the end-of-the-world/stop-the-doomsday-device stuff.

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Best Picture
Argo
Beasts of the Southern Wild
Django Unchained
Life of Pi
Lincoln
The Master
Les Miserables
Moonrise Kingdom
Silver Linings Playbook
Zero Dark Thirty

Best Actor
Bradley Cooper,("Silver Linings Playbook")
Daniel Day-Lewis,("Lincoln")
John Hawkes ("The Sessions"),
Hugh Jackman ("Les Miserables")
Joaquin Phoenix ("The Master")
Denzel Washington ("Flight")

Best Actress
Jessica Chastain ("Zero Dark Thirty")
Marion Cotillard ("Rust and Bone")
Jennifer Lawrence ("Silver Linings Playbook")
Emmanuelle Riva ("Amour")
Quvenzhane Wallis ("Beasts of the Southern Wild")
Naomi Watts ("The Impossible")

Best Supporting Actor
Alan Arkin ("Argo")
Javier Bardem ("Skyfall")
Robert De Niro ("Silver Linings Playbook")
Philip Seymour Hoffman ("The Master")
Tommy Lee Jones ("Lincoln")
Matthew McConaughey ("Magic Mike")

Best Supporting Actress
Amy Adams ("The Master")
Judi Dench ("Skyfall")
Ann Dowd ("Compliance")
Sally Field ("Lincoln")
Anne Hathaway ("Les Miserables")
Helen Hunt ("The Sessions")

Best Young Actor/Actress
Elle Fanning ("Ginger & Rosa")
Kara Hayward ("Moonrise Kingdom")
Tom Holland ("The Impossible")
Logan Lerman ("The Perks of Being a Wallflower")
Suraj Sharma ("Life of Pi")
Quvenzhan Wallis ("Beasts of the Southern Wild")

Best Acting Ensemble
Argo
The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel
Les Miserables
Lincoln
Moonrise Kingdom
Silver Linings Playbook

Best Director
Ben Affleck ("Argo")
Kathryn Bigelow ("Zero Dark Thirty")
Tom Hooper ("Les Miserables"),
Ang Lee ("Life of Pi")
David O. Russell ("Silver Linings Playbook")
Steven Spielberg ("Lincoln")

Best Original Screenplay
Quentin Tarantino "Django Unchained"
John Gatins "Flight"
Rian Johnson "Looper"
Paul Thomas Anderson "The Master"
Wes Anderson & Roman Coppola "Moonrise Kingdom"
"Mark Boal "Zero Dark Thirty"

Best Adapted Screenplay
Chris Terrio "Argo"
David Magee "Life of Pi"
Tony Kushner "Lincoln"
Stephen Chbosky "The Perks of Being a Wallflower"
David O. Russell "Silver Linings Playbook"

Best Cinematography
Skyfall
Life Of Pi
Les Miserables
Lincoln
The Master

Best Art Direction
Anna Karenina
The Hobbit
Les Miserables
Life of Pi
Lincoln

Best Editing
Argo
Les Miserables
Life of Pi
Lincoln
Zero Dark Thirty

Best Costume Design

"Anna Karenina" Jacqueline Durran
"Cloud Atlas" Kym Barrett and Pierre-Yves Gayraud
"The Hobbit" Bob Buck, Ann Maskrey and Richard Taylor
"Les Misrables" Paco Delgado
"Lincoln" Joanna Johnston

Best Makeup
Cloud Atlas
The Hobbit
Les Miserables
Lincoln

Best Visual Effects
The Avengers
Cloud Atlas
The Dark Knight Rises
The Hobbit
Life of Pi

Best Animated Feature
Brave
Frankenweenie
Madagascar 3
ParaNorman
Rise of the Guardians
Wreck-It Ralph

Best Action Movie
The Avengers
The Dark Knight Rises
Looper
Skyfall

Best Actor in an Action Movie

Christian Bale "The Dark Knight Rises"
Daniel Craig "Skyfall"
Robert Downey Jr. "The Avengers"
Joseph Gordon-Levitt "Looper"
Jake Gyllenhaal "End of Watch"

Best Actress in an Action Movie
Emily Blunt "Looper"
Gina Carano "Haywire"
Judi Dench "Skyfall"
Anne Hathaway "The Dark Knight Rises"
Jennifer Lawrence "The Hunger Games

Best Comedy Movie

Bernie
Silver Linings Playbook
Ted
This Is 40
21 Jump Street

Best Actor in a Comedy Movie

Jack Black "Bernie"
Bradley Cooper "Silver Linings Playbook"
Paul Rudd "This Is 40"
Channing Tatum "21 Jump Street"
Mark Wahlberg "Ted"

Best Actress in a Comedy Movie
Mila Kunis "Ted"
Jennifer Lawrence "Silver Linings Playbook"
Shirley MacLaine "Bernie"
Leslie Mann "This Is 40"
Rebel Wilson "Pitch Perfect"

Best Sci-Fi/Horror Movie
The Cabin in the Woods
Looper
Prometheus

Best Foreign Language Film
Amour
The Intouchables
A Royal Affair
Rust and Bone

Best Documentary Feature

Bully
The Central Park Five
The Imposter
The Queen of Versailles
Searching for Sugar Man
West of Memphis

Best Song
"For You", Act of Valor
"Learn Me Right", Brave
"Skyfall", Skyfall
"Still Alive", Paul Williams Still Alive
"Suddenly", Les Miserables

Best Score
Argo
Life of Pi
Lincoln
The Master
Moonrise Kingdom

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I was right about the action categories.

I wonder if Lawrence getting 3 nods is what Tapley was whining about last night.


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I was right about the action categories.

I wonder if Lawrence getting 3 nods is what Tapley was whining about last night.
Yeah, I am not liking the new categories at all, BFCA nominations mean very little now... everyone can pretty much get it.

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And it'll probably end up where whoever can attend gets an award...

Gina Carano... Really?


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And it'll probably end up where whoever can attend gets an award...

Gina Carano... Really?
Critic's Choice Awards Nominee Gina Carano... iSad now.

I also have no idea why the split Action and Sci-Fi movies into different categories. Isn't Sci-Fi a setting and not a genre?

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Wow....those Critics Choice nominees...

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No Best Film nomination from BFCA, as well as missing out on the NBR top films is pretty much the final nail that this won't be getting anything.

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There are those technical awards, so I think it's silly to say "won't be getting anything".

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There are those technical awards, so I think it's silly to say "won't be getting anything".
Yeah, the techs are a given. I was referring to the major awards (BP, Nolan for BD, etc.)

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The nominees for the Action Actors isn't bad although I think Liam Neeson (for The Gray) should've been there (there are 2 in that list that he can easily replace IMO). Oh well... At least there's no Robert Pattinson or Taylor Lautner.

One doesn't belong in the Action Actress list and we all know who that is... Scarlett (or maybe Noomi?) should've taken that spot.

Overall, it's still a lame attempt to entice stars of big movies to attend the event.

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Does anyone else feel like having those action categories is really condescending and cynical? They should just drop it and stop trying to pander to the masses. Do they think people are too stupid to see through the charade?

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Does anyone else feel like having those action categories is really condescending and cynical? They should just drop it and stop trying to pander to the masses. Do they think people are too stupid to see through the charade?
Absolutely. I didn't even know these awards , but as i was looking through the list and saw those categories...wow. So condescending.

Its as offensive as the animation and foreign awards in the oscars.

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Critic's Choice Awards Nominee Gina Carano... iSad now.

I also have no idea why the split Action and Sci-Fi movies into different categories. Isn't Sci-Fi a setting and not a genre?
Haywire is a fantastic film , and Gina plays it really nice. She might not be very versatile , but i actually like her in the movie. That's what's important. Not the ability to do other things. Its about the role she made.

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I hope Anne wins in both of her categories.

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