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Mr. Freeze 39 16.25%
Joker 5 2.08%
Riddler 70 29.17%
Penguin 10 4.17%
Clayface 16 6.67%
Mad Hatter 4 1.67%
Hugo Strange 34 14.17%
Poison Ivy 8 3.33%
Two Face 6 2.50%
Killer Croc 15 6.25%
The League Of Assasins 1 0.42%
The Court Of Owls 19 7.92%
Dollmaker 0 0%
Catwoman 1 0.42%
Other 12 5.00%
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:14 AM   #101
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I'd actually like to see Man-Bat or Clayface in a Batman film.

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Old 12-14-2012, 11:28 AM   #102
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If Hugo Strange was in it, he should be the head of Arkham and share a relationship with all the inmates.

He should be totally unorthodox in his methods on how to treat patients.

There was this Doctor years ago called Alfred Kinsey, while he was considered brilliant and important for his studies, he was extremely controversial...hiring pedophiles to experiment on children...Now to me, that is sick

Strange should be something like that...considered brilliant, but controversial.

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Old 12-14-2012, 12:49 PM   #103
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Clock King + Calendar Man ?

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Old 12-14-2012, 05:19 PM   #104
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It's not the same thing. Bane was a third party when you look at the villains in that movie. The general audience don't remember him either.

The studio has been shakey about using Robin as the sidekick since that movie. They're probably fine with it now but they know they'll have to be careful with how a teenage sidekick is approached. So imagine the others..

With Freeze and Poison Ivy, i bet it's gonna take at least 1 or 2 movies in a more fantastical nature for WB to agree to it. Or a director who can convince them that they'll go in a completely different style to what was before. It will take convincing. They're probably unaware of the real Freeze and dont know if they can go a darker, serious take on him.

They wont follow Bane immediately with another obscure villain. And if it's Riddler or Penguin theyll be jumping for joy. Hell, theyll probably suggest them. If Nolan used either one for Batman 3, they would have loved that more than what we got.
You're assuming way too much. You're assuming the general audience remembers clearly about those villains. You're assuming that their response to a new version will be bad. You're assuming that WB didn't want Robin because of that. You're assuming they won't use a more obscure villain in the reboot even though they already did it with Begins using Ra's and Scarecrow. You're even assuming that WB don't know about Freeze. Really? You're basing that on how he was done in animated movies, cartoons and in the comics too?

What we know is that Bale really didn't want Robin in the movies and, if I recall correctly, Nolan also said that he didn't have a place in his story, so that is something we can base ourselves on. As for the GA's issue with Freeze and Ivy, if they remember about him now, more than a decade later, then they'll still do some years from now. If the movie is good, the audience will take it. Regardless of the villain. Obscure or not, like they already did.

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Old 12-16-2012, 02:20 PM   #105
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I'm sure David S. Goyer knows about Mr. Freeze, etc. and he's undoubtedly going to be tapped for future movies as well to provide basic story ideas/outlines, if not entire screenplays.

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Old 12-16-2012, 10:22 PM   #106
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You're assuming way too much. You're assuming the general audience remembers clearly about those villains. You're assuming that their response to a new version will be bad. You're assuming that WB didn't want Robin because of that. You're assuming they won't use a more obscure villain in the reboot even though they already did it with Begins using Ra's and Scarecrow. You're even assuming that WB don't know about Freeze. Really? You're basing that on how he was done in animated movies, cartoons and in the comics too?

What we know is that Bale really didn't want Robin in the movies and, if I recall correctly, Nolan also said that he didn't have a place in his story, so that is something we can base ourselves on. As for the GA's issue with Freeze and Ivy, if they remember about him now, more than a decade later, then they'll still do some years from now. If the movie is good, the audience will take it. Regardless of the villain. Obscure or not, like they already did.
Exactly.

I mean the last time Bane was on screen was in Batman and Robin.

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It was Nolan that persuaded them with Bane, as they wanted Riddler, apparently.

But we don't need him for Freeze. All you have to do is say Freeze won't be like that **** from B&R, Bob's your uncle

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Old 12-18-2012, 02:48 AM   #108
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I am going to pick a villain that would work, but is overlooked. The Monk should be the next batman foe., follow by Hugo strange and the mutants, and for the third film, Kuller Croc or Man Bat.

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Old 12-18-2012, 11:39 AM   #109
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It was Nolan that persuaded them with Bane, as they wanted Riddler, apparently.
Yeah, and Nolan considers Riddler a watered down version of the Joker.....

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The man has no imagination!

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Old 12-18-2012, 01:33 PM   #111
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Mad Hatter next. Always been a fav. Plus the name Mad Hatter simply love it.

Don't know what story would suit todays audience if Hatter was picked any thoughts?

Hugo Strange & Mad Hatter? Jonathan Nolan expressed a wish for Mad Hatter before TDKR began. I wonder if he will be around for a new film?

Other than him I've kinda gotten a soft spot for Manbat after seeing the deleted scene from Batman Forever. that large bat like creature in the cave was a sure Manbat idea if ever I saw one.

Penguin, Riddler okay with that too.



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Old 12-18-2012, 03:28 PM   #112
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It'd still like Reaper/Phantasm and Black Mask for a rebooted Batman flick.

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Mad Hatter next. Always been a fav. Plus the name Mad Hatter simply love it.

Don't know what story would suit todays audience if Hatter was picked any thoughts?

Hugo Strange & Mad Hatter? Jonathan Nolan expressed a wish for Mad Hatter before TDKR began. I wonder if he will be around for a new film?

Other than him I've kinda gotten a soft spot for Manbat after seeing the deleted scene from Batman Forever. that large bat like creature in the cave was a sure Manbat idea if ever I saw one.

Penguin, Riddler okay with that too.

Never liked Mad Hatter at all. They could do something disturbing with him but i would only be OK with it if it was a really smart part, otherwise i could go the rest of my life never seeing him on screen.

When did Jonathan Nolan express wanting Madhatter? I find that hard to believe.

Man-Bat is another character i can care less about. Just another Conners/Lizard arc done over again.

I would hope that they use Clayface whenever they decide to use Hugo Strange. Poison Ivy & Scarecrow (OR Black Mask) is another good pairing.


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Old 12-18-2012, 04:40 PM   #114
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I imagined Mad Hatter as a child kidnapper who drugged and sold girls in a pedophile ring. Nothing special lol

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Old 12-18-2012, 08:24 PM   #116
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That's a cool picture. I would like to see Two Face as well, just not as the main villain.

I've always been a fan of the idea that if Batman is fighting other villains and Two Face is witnessing it, he flips a coin to decide who to help.

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I want Two-Face to have center stage all to himself. TLJ's version was awful and Eckhart's was too short to fully satisfy my Two-Face love.

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Old 12-19-2012, 11:05 AM   #118
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Never liked Mad Hatter at all. They could do something disturbing with him but i would only be OK with it if it was a really smart part, otherwise i could go the rest of my life never seeing him on screen.

When did Jonathan Nolan express wanting Madhatter? I find that hard to believe.

Man-Bat is another character i can care less about. Just another Conners/Lizard arc done over again.

I would hope that they use Clayface whenever they decide to use Hugo Strange. Poison Ivy & Scarecrow (OR Black Mask) is another good pairing.
It was just a rumor floating around on Batman wikipedia about MH. but I do seem to remember a JN interview on another film website naming a few of his fav Batman foes incuding MH.

More Scarecrow with better role maybe?

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Old 12-19-2012, 12:20 PM   #119
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I'd like to see lock-up at some point, a sort of rival vigilante who has no problem killing criminals, or civilians who get in the way.

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Zsasz might fit there too.

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hmm, he would lol. And I think it would be a cool story to fit robin into, seeing the flip side of vigilantism could make for a good lesson in robin's training.

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Zsasz in Nolan's world...a butcher for the mob.

Zsasz in a prefered world...a nutjob who think's killing people is a good thing and is releasing them from a pointless exsistence.

Yeah...I like the latter

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Old 12-22-2012, 08:38 PM   #123
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I'd actually like to see Man-Bat or Clayface in a Batman film.
I always wanted to see Man-Bat in a Batman film. Perhaps some time into Batman's career and people are assuming that Batman is behind these killings from Man-Bat as Batman is always seen as this "giant bat" anyways and never really close up by anyone and Batman has to figure out what's behind these string of murders.

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Zsasz in Nolan's world...a butcher for the mob.

Zsasz in a prefered world...a nutjob who think's killing people is a good thing and is releasing them from a pointless exsistence.

Yeah...I like the latter
Also in Nolan's world, Zsaz(how it's spelled in Nolan's world) is sane who's sent to Arkham only because the mob asked for it. Also not using Zsasz to his fullest potential. I LOVE the way he's used in Arkham City, which, is obviously brought up when thinking how a Batman reboot could be handled.

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Old 12-23-2012, 10:00 AM   #124
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Penguin
Hugo Strange
Wrath
Mad Hatter
Croc
are the villains I'd like to see

IMO Joker and Bane should be left alone for a long time,I feel this way cause honestly Ledger and Hardy gave the definite performances,they took everything from the source material and blended it to the max masterfully.

So unless either characters get a wealth of new,original and well written stories in the comics they should not be messed with.

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Old 12-23-2012, 03:16 PM   #125
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I want an Under The Red Hood film. I've never actually read the book but a loose adaptation of the film could be awesome. It's time the GA gets introduced to more Batman family members and they REALLY need to do Jason's story and show Dick as Nightwing for once. Black Mask as the villain most likely but not sure about Joker's role. Could you honestly do Jason's story without it being Joker who killed him? I mean, anybody can beat somebody with a crowbar and then blow them up. I still just think that Jason's story NEEDS to be told. If Joker was ever used with a Jason story then show Joker's backstory as Red Hood and everything too

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