Marvel Now - Part 3 - Page 14

CConn · 12-27-2012, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by hippie_hunter

I've been getting Iron Man since the Knaufs and I don't hate Fraction's run. It's nowhere near as good as the Knaufs' run and it kinda petered out at the end, but overall it was good. Especially during Dark Reign.

1. I was joking.

2. "It's nowhere near as good as the Knaufs' run." That's my point exactly.

CConn · 12-27-2012, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkingbird

I'm nearly 16 and I know many peoples on Tumblr who love it

everyone doth be a critic here.

Nearly 16 wouldn't count in court, and it shouldn't count here.

Hawkingbird · 12-28-2012, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CConn

Nearly 16 wouldn't count in court, and it shouldn't count here.

I need to get my army of Tumblr friends. Also, everyone on Twitter is raving about it.

Sneakronicity · 12-28-2012, 06:18 AM

I haven't read any of Fraction's other work, though I do hear a lot of complaints about it and him in general. That said, I love the Hawkeye series. I like the quiet, independent feel, the "what a superhero does when he's not being a superhero" plot, the narration, the wit, and the art is just absolutely fantastic. I know it's not for everyone, but isn't that the same about everything? People like different things, that's just how life is.

Hawkingbird · 12-28-2012, 06:51 AM

I've loved his work on X-Men, Iron Man and Thor. I'm a big Fraction fan.

StreetWarrior · 12-28-2012, 08:39 AM

Fraction's Iron Man run was ... decent, IMO. He had some absolutely amazing ideas but the execution was poor. The book had severe pacing issues (i.e. 9 issue storylines that could have been told in 4 issues, secondary plots that carried on for years, etc.) and was extremely anti-climatic in many arcs. However, the art was fantastic for the title and continuity wasn't too butchered. In all, I'd give it a solid 3/5.

The Knauf's run on the character, the Mandarin story in particular, was absolutely fantastic. That should get a solid 5/5, even with all the Director of Shield stuff that ended the series on a weaker note.

This relaunch is just not doing it for me though. Never thought I'd miss Fraction, especially after the Fear Itself debacle, but these issues seem to be going nowhere fast. This may be the first time in 8 years that I won't be reading Iron Man.

Also, on an unrelated note: screw the Iron Patriot. Bring back War Machine!

JewishHobbit · 12-28-2012, 09:28 AM

Every issue of Hawkeye that I skim I think, "Huh, that looks good" and then put it back. One of these days I might just start buying the thing.

javi1024 · 12-28-2012, 10:38 AM

I had some issues with Fraction's run on X-Men but overall I enjoyed it. Utopia and Second Coming were definite highlights. I also read the first Casanova trade and liked the style, it was just too trippy for me (I hate time travel). I'm really considering adding Hawkeye to my pull list and I hardly like the character.

Anubis · 12-28-2012, 09:24 PM

It's not time travel, it's alternate universe travel. Big difference.

hippie_hunter · 12-28-2012, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CConn

1. I was joking.

2. "It's nowhere near as good as the Knaufs' run." That's my point exactly.

To be fair, it's kinda hard to top the Knaufs. They were probably the only writers who were capable of writing Iron Man as a good person during the low point of his character thanks to Civil War.

Hawkingbird · 12-29-2012, 03:05 AM

Civil War was both very, very good, and very, very bad.

On another note, anybody else getting the feeling the writers are giving into the whole "Stony" thing?

Thwip! · 12-29-2012, 03:52 PM

Stony?

squeekness · 12-29-2012, 04:01 PM

I was just going to ask that.

JewishHobbit · 12-29-2012, 04:02 PM

Steve & Tony... duh!!!!

squeekness · 12-29-2012, 04:21 PM

I am mostly used to that sort of thing with actual couples. Unless those guys have something they want to confess...?

Thwip! · 12-29-2012, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JewishHobbit

Steve & Tony... duh!!!!

Not nearly as good of a nickname as SpOck

Hawkingbird · 12-29-2012, 05:20 PM

A popular head canon amongst movie fans is that Steve and Tony are gay together, and have adopted Spiderman. I hate this. Nothing against homosexuality of course, I just hate fans who pair up characters randomly! ie-Wolverine and Emma, Widow and Clint (yes I know they have history, but that's been and gone

)

squeekness · 12-29-2012, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkingbird

A popular head canon amongst movie fans is that Steve and Tony are gay together, and have adopted Spiderman. I hate this. Nothing against homosexuality of course, I just hate fans who pair up characters randomly! ie-Wolverine and Emma, Widow and Clint (yes I know they have history, but that's been and gone

)

I agree. I don't mind a bit of slash but it at least has to make sense, lol. I've always been rather fond of the Wolverine/Gambit pairing myself. I just can't see Steve and Tony at all, lol.

Colossal Spoons · 12-30-2012, 08:25 AM

Stony? People are shipping IM and Cap? No.

No.

CConn · 12-30-2012, 05:29 PM

I would be all for Tony/Steve homosexual relations.

squeekness · 12-30-2012, 06:01 PM

I just can't picture Cap that way. Tony maybe on account of his flirtatious manner, but not Cap.

HighFivingMF · 12-30-2012, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CConn

I would be all for Tony/Steve homosexual relations.

You should check out that internet thingy.

Hawkingbird · 12-31-2012, 03:02 AM

*coughs*
I'd like to announce that so far, I am enjoying Fear Itself.

chamber-music · 12-31-2012, 07:10 AM

People will ship anything.

I await the Rocket Raccoon/Groot pairing when Guardians comes out

Hawkingbird · 12-31-2012, 08:01 AM

I don't like the Pepper x Tony and Cap x Wasp ship. I don't know how I feel about the Carol x Peter ship. It's implied in the comics...

12-28-2012, 06:18 AM	#329
Sneakronicity Side-Kick Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 55	Re: Marvel Now - Part 3 I haven't read any of Fraction's other work, though I do hear a lot of complaints about it and him in general. That said, I love the Hawkeye series. I like the quiet, independent feel, the "what a superhero does when he's not being a superhero" plot, the narration, the wit, and the art is just absolutely fantastic. I know it's not for everyone, but isn't that the same about everything? People like different things, that's just how life is.

12-28-2012, 06:51 AM	#330
Hawkingbird I want to be Kate Bishop Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: With the Hawkeyes Posts: 5,109	Re: Marvel Now - Part 3 I've loved his work on X-Men, Iron Man and Thor. I'm a big Fraction fan.

12-28-2012, 08:39 AM	#331
StreetWarrior Respectfully disagreeing. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 458	Re: Marvel Now - Part 3 Fraction's Iron Man run was ... decent, IMO. He had some absolutely amazing ideas but the execution was poor. The book had severe pacing issues (i.e. 9 issue storylines that could have been told in 4 issues, secondary plots that carried on for years, etc.) and was extremely anti-climatic in many arcs. However, the art was fantastic for the title and continuity wasn't too butchered. In all, I'd give it a solid 3/5. The Knauf's run on the character, the Mandarin story in particular, was absolutely fantastic. That should get a solid 5/5, even with all the Director of Shield stuff that ended the series on a weaker note. This relaunch is just not doing it for me though. Never thought I'd miss Fraction, especially after the Fear Itself debacle, but these issues seem to be going nowhere fast. This may be the first time in 8 years that I won't be reading Iron Man. Also, on an unrelated note: screw the Iron Patriot. Bring back War Machine! __________________ "If you shoot, you're a killer. If you don't shoot, you have a death on your conscience. A death you could have prevented" "What kind of a choice is that?" "The one I make every time I pull the trigger"

12-28-2012, 09:28 AM	#332
JewishHobbit Comics/Writer of the Year Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Eastern Time Zone Posts: 23,206	Re: Marvel Now - Part 3 Every issue of Hawkeye that I skim I think, "Huh, that looks good" and then put it back. One of these days I might just start buying the thing. __________________ Support My Books! Cicada Song (Romantic Suspense) The Adventures of Flitter & Plank (Children's novel, 3rd grade reading level)

12-28-2012, 10:38 AM	#333
javi1024 DANGER ZONE! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Houston,TX Posts: 4,157	Re: Marvel Now - Part 3 I had some issues with Fraction's run on X-Men but overall I enjoyed it. Utopia and Second Coming were definite highlights. I also read the first Casanova trade and liked the style, it was just too trippy for me (I hate time travel). I'm really considering adding Hawkeye to my pull list and I hardly like the character. __________________ Wolverine: "I got one. Domino or Psylocke?" Nightcrawler: ".....British or Japanese Psylocke?" PSN ID: Gizmo1024 playing Mass Effect 3, Uncharted 3, Rochard, Super Street Fighter 4

12-29-2012, 03:05 AM	#336
Hawkingbird I want to be Kate Bishop Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: With the Hawkeyes Posts: 5,109	Re: Marvel Now - Part 3 Civil War was both very, very good, and very, very bad. On another note, anybody else getting the feeling the writers are giving into the whole "Stony" thing? __________________ *"Turkey sucks and you suck, and who made you boss?"* Last edited by Hawkingbird; 12-29-2012 at 04:02 AM.

12-29-2012, 03:52 PM	#337
Thwip! Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Carlow, Ireland Posts: 1,481	Re: Marvel Now - Part 3 Stony? __________________ My Deviantart

12-29-2012, 04:01 PM	#338
squeekness The mighty squeek! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Getting nothing done Posts: 61,884	Re: Marvel Now - Part 3 I was just going to ask that. __________________ Please read my X-men fanfiction. There's pictures! Proud Co-founder of Gambit’s Royal Flush

12-29-2012, 04:02 PM	#339
JewishHobbit Comics/Writer of the Year Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Eastern Time Zone Posts: 23,206	Re: Marvel Now - Part 3 Steve & Tony... duh!!!! __________________ Support My Books! Cicada Song (Romantic Suspense) The Adventures of Flitter & Plank (Children's novel, 3rd grade reading level)

12-29-2012, 04:21 PM	#340
squeekness The mighty squeek! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Getting nothing done Posts: 61,884	Re: Marvel Now - Part 3 I am mostly used to that sort of thing with actual couples. Unless those guys have something they want to confess...? __________________ Please read my X-men fanfiction. There's pictures! Proud Co-founder of Gambit’s Royal Flush Last edited by squeekness; 12-29-2012 at 04:33 PM.

12-29-2012, 05:20 PM	#342
Hawkingbird I want to be Kate Bishop Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: With the Hawkeyes Posts: 5,109	Re: Marvel Now - Part 3 A popular head canon amongst movie fans is that Steve and Tony are gay together, and have adopted Spiderman. I hate this. Nothing against homosexuality of course, I just hate fans who pair up characters randomly! ie-Wolverine and Emma, Widow and Clint (yes I know they have history, but that's been and gone )

12-30-2012, 08:25 AM	#344
Colossal Spoons :argh: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: A bar on Oa Posts: 61,182	Re: Marvel Now - Part 3 Stony? People are shipping IM and Cap? No. No. __________________ Valar Morghulis, Valar Dohaeris

12-30-2012, 05:29 PM	#345
CConn Fountainhead of culture. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Peter North's Southern Headquarters Posts: 57,433	Re: Marvel Now - Part 3 I would be all for Tony/Steve homosexual relations. __________________ It's like a non-consecutive 24-hour dance party.

12-30-2012, 06:01 PM	#346
squeekness The mighty squeek! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Getting nothing done Posts: 61,884	Re: Marvel Now - Part 3 I just can't picture Cap that way. Tony maybe on account of his flirtatious manner, but not Cap. __________________ Please read my X-men fanfiction. There's pictures! Proud Co-founder of Gambit’s Royal Flush

12-31-2012, 03:02 AM	#348
Hawkingbird I want to be Kate Bishop Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: With the Hawkeyes Posts: 5,109	Re: Marvel Now - Part 3 coughs I'd like to announce that so far, I am enjoying Fear Itself. __________________ *"Turkey sucks and you suck, and who made you boss?"*

12-31-2012, 07:10 AM	#349
chamber-music Circle Square Triangle Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 18,787	Re: Marvel Now - Part 3 People will ship anything. I await the Rocket Raccoon/Groot pairing when Guardians comes out __________________ By Sword, By Shadow, By Blood - The Hand

12-31-2012, 08:01 AM	#350
Hawkingbird I want to be Kate Bishop Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: With the Hawkeyes Posts: 5,109	Re: Marvel Now - Part 3 I don't like the Pepper x Tony and Cap x Wasp ship. I don't know how I feel about the Carol x Peter ship. It's implied in the comics... __________________ *"Turkey sucks and you suck, and who made you boss?"*

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