All Things Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 22

[hopefuldreamer]

The thing is, they are kind of too far behind in competing with Marvel already to consider shelving one of their tentpole heroes because he didn't make big bucks.

I'd be very surprised if this movie doesn't get a sequel, based on that alone...

[BH/HHH]

I think it will definitely do well enough at the box office

[ConnorKon-El]

It will do well at the Box Office, it's just a question of how well.

[lixdexia]

Originally Posted by hopefuldreamer

The thing is, they are kind of too far behind in competing with Marvel already to consider shelving one of their tentpole heroes because he didn't make big bucks.

I'd be very surprised if this movie doesn't get a sequel, based on that alone...

they already did that with green lantern, don't be surprised when it happens to superman.

[Dr.]

Originally Posted by lixdexia

they already did that with green lantern, don't be surprised when it happens to superman.

If MOS makes GL numbers, then - yes - the franchise is dead in the water. But even a relatively modest $500M (world wide) gross makes it viable.

[Skrilla31]

Green Lantern was a second rate character and brand (popularity wise) and the movie had terrible word of mouth. That and I don't think general audiences were too excited for the film after they saw in the trailer that Green Lantern would be squaring off against Enlarged Head Man. Man Of Steel has to be absolute **** piss dreadful in order for them to shelve any ideas for a sequel... ya know, like Superman Returns lol.

Truthfully speaking though this film has more buzz and more positive energy than Returns ever did so I don't see it tanking but the movie DOES have to be good.

[SuperMike335!!]

I think its good that 7 years will have passed since SR.

I don't know a sinlge person IRL who like that movie. There are some who think superman is a dumb character BECAUSE of that movie.

Hopefully MOS will not suffer the way The Incredible Hulk did, where too many people still had the bad taste of the 2003 Hulk when the 2008 one came out.

HULK 2003 was a horrid movie.

It was like having a urinary catheter pulled out by accident.

You don't just forget something like that.

[ConnorKon-El]

Originally Posted by SuperMike335!!

I think its good that 7 years will have passed since SR.

I don't know a sinlge person IRL who like that movie. There are some who think superman is a dumb character BECAUSE of that movie.

Hopefully MOS will not suffer the way The Incredible Hulk did, where too many people still had the bad taste of the 2003 Hulk when the 2008 one came out.

HULK 2003 was a horrid movie.

It was like having a urinary catheter pulled out by accident.

You don't just forget something like that.

BEST METAPHOR EVER.

[GreenKToo]

Well for me, GL got it wrong from the start with the casting of RR. Then that awful suit didnt help either. GL felt like GR to me, a film that wanted to be taken seriously but I was unable too. It wasnt even fun.

[lixdexia]

that's how i'm afraid i'm going to feel about MOS, because of zak snyder. i know because of him i couldn't take the watchmen movie seriously at all.

[hopefuldreamer]

Originally Posted by lixdexia

they already did that with green lantern, don't be surprised when it happens to superman.

1. That was Green Lantern, not Superman.

2. That was before The Avengers kicked the competition up a notch.

[Coca Cola Duracell Franklin.]

Originally Posted by GreenKToo

Well for me, GL got it wrong from the start with the casting of RR. Then that awful suit didnt help either. GL felt like GR to me, a film that wanted to be taken seriously but I was unable too. It wasnt even fun.

Green... Rantern?

Writing with words helps.

[HighFivingMF]

Originally Posted by Coca Cola Duracell Franklin.

Green... Rantern?

Writing with words helps.

Ghost Rider.

Which is silly. Green Lantern is awesome. Ghost Rider is... I don't know. Didn't watch it.

[GreenKToo]

Lol awesome?? If u say so. The public disagrees tho.

[lixdexia]

Originally Posted by GreenKToo

Lol awesome?? If u say so. The public disagrees tho.

the public also likes the transformers movies, probably not the best back up when arguing something as subjective as film quality

[HighFivingMF]

Originally Posted by GreenKToo

Lol awesome?? If u say so. The public disagrees tho.

They'd have to see it for us to know that. But my friends and I like it, that's good enough for me.

[GreenKToo]

Originally Posted by HighFivingMF

They'd have to see it for us to know that. But my friends and I like it, that's good enough for me.

Lol...

[Liam_H]

Green Lantern....yeah.

[Doc Ock]

I enjoyed Green Lantern, it had some fun stuff. I don't love it or hate it, its merely okay. But if Man of Steel is anything like Green Lantern than I think it will be a disgrace to not only to Superman but WB DC films as a whole. Green Lantern could of been amazing. If Man of Steel doesn't do well and isn't well received then it may spell a grim future of the only DC superhero films being Batman films...

[moviefreak]

Originally Posted by Skrilla31

Green Lantern was a second rate character and brand (popularity wise) and the movie had terrible word of mouth. That and I don't think general audiences were too excited for the film after they saw in the trailer that Green Lantern would be squaring off against Enlarged Head Man. Man Of Steel has to be absolute **** piss dreadful in order for them to shelve any ideas for a sequel... ya know, like Superman Returns lol.

Truthfully speaking though this film has more buzz and more positive energy than Returns ever did so I don't see it tanking but the movie DOES have to be good.

Well, I never saw Green Lantern. Amazing is it? The reason was the trailer which was a BIG turn off for me.Although I have read GL comics (mostly in the 70s and early 80s), I never warmed to this character as much as Superman, Batman, Spiderman, Wonder Woman and the X-Men. It is definitely a big mistake by the WB to even consider Green Lantern - today's general audience will not be terribly familiar about GL compared with Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Spiderman, Hulk and Thor. MOS will definitely make over 400 mil in USA domestics and over 700 mil world wide, consider that it will be in 3D and over 4000 outlets in the USA. As long as the film is good with no negative feedback from critics and audience.

[flickchick85]

Originally Posted by herolee10

I honestly do wonder though that even if this film were to be well received, much better than SR; if it only made like around the same that SR made, would that still prompt Warner Bros. to go forward with a sequel? I would imagine that they would hope for MOS to at least make 500 Million, especially since I remember them saying on how they had hoped for SR to have made that much in the past.

I think so, because no matter what, WB wouldn't have lost as much money on this as they did on SR (due to all the money spent during development hell on that and the versions that lead to it). That said, there's no way this movie isn't making more than SR at this point.

[Dr.]

Originally Posted by moviefreak

MOS will definitely make over 400 mil in USA domestics and over 700 mil world wide...

+$400M would be an astonishing take. Even ~$300M (plus a proportionate foreign BO) is ambitious.

[moviefreak]

Originally Posted by Dr.

+$400M would be an astonishing take. Even ~$300M (plus a proportionate foreign BO) is ambitious.

I based my figure for USA domestic gross on The Dark Knight Rise which is currently at $448,139,099 according to box office mojo, while the foreign box office is $632,902,188. I see MOS making over 300mil in USA but the foreign gross is hard to predict as the example of Superman Returns which didn't perform well in foreign box office attested.Considering that almost all the comic book films this year performed well, I see no reason why MOS will do likewise - as long as the film is very good and not a stinker like Green Lantern.

[Dr.]

Originally Posted by moviefreak

I based my figure for USA domestic gross on The Dark Knight Rise which is currently at $448,139,099 according to box office mojo, while the foreign box office is $632,902,188.

TDKR was a sequel to a hugely popular predecessor. Best case, I’d put MOS in the unknown/blank slate category - like the first Iron Man. And if it’s lucky, MOS will do Iron Man numbers (not too shabby at all).

[Moridin]

Originally Posted by moviefreak

It is definitely a big mistake by the WB to even consider Green Lantern - today's general audience will not be terribly familiar about GL compared with Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Spiderman, Hulk and Thor.

It doesn't really matter all that much how familiar the general audience is with a character. If anyone knew the name "Thor" before that movie came out in '11 it would more than likely be as "some obscure Scandanavian myth", not Marvels version. Same with Iron Man, nobody GA knew or cared about him before 2008.

GL didn't fail because of lack of name recognition.

MOS will definitely make over 400 mil in USA domestics

That's an extremely optimistic prediction.

and over 700 mil world wide, consider that it will be in 3D and over 4000 outlets in the USA.
As long as the film is good with no negative feedback from critics and audience.