So now we've seen both, which was the best? - Part 1

[Hawkingbird]

Originally Posted by Picard Sisko

I assume you meant "biased?"

Spider-Man has always been my favorite, so I know I'm a little biased. I grew up watching the 90s cartoon, then started reading some of the comics. After SM1 came out, I became an even bigger fan, and became even more invested. I bought The Ultimate Guide book, started collecting older comics, and building my collection. Of course this got me into comic books in general, as I started reading other titles like X-Men, The Incredible Hulk, Iron Man, Batman, and many more. But Spider-Man has always been the one that I love most.

Yes (sorry for my spelling). X-Men was how I started, then Avengers. Now I read a few monthly Collector's Edditons: X-Men, Avengers, Marvel Legends, Wolverine and Deadpool and Mighty World of Marvel. I don't read Spider-man. I only know him through Avengers.

[Picard Sisko]

Originally Posted by Hawkingbird

Yes (sorry for my spelling). X-Men was how I started, then Avengers. Now I read a few monthly Collector's Edditons: X-Men, Avengers, Marvel Legends, Wolverine and Deadpool and Mighty World of Marvel. I don't read Spider-man. I only know him through Avengers.

I assume you mean The New Avengers?

There are so many great Spider-Man stories out there. Why not check them out?

[Hawkingbird]

Originally Posted by Picard Sisko

I assume you mean The New Avengers?

There are so many great Spider-Man stories out there. Why not check them out?

I'm in the UK, so the CEs are a year and a half behind. So I'm just reading Avengers
And it's expensive I'd love to though.

[Picard Sisko]

Originally Posted by Hawkingbird

I'm in the UK, so the CEs are a year and a half behind. So I'm just reading Avengers
And it's expensive I'd love to though.

You should look into "Essential Spider-Man." In the U.S., each book is about $25 and contains about 25 issues. Only thing is that they are in black and white.

[Hawkingbird]

It would cost allot to just have it shipped surly?

[Picard Sisko]

Not if you order from amazon.uk so you don't have to pay for international shipping.

[Anno_Domini]

Originally Posted by Picard Sisko

To each his own. Glad you enjoyed it at least. I thought the story wasn't bad, but overall I thought it was very poorly executed. I hope Phase two will include a Punisher film.

I definitely think we need a Punisher film in the MCU that has a more comic book feel to it(with Thomas Jane as Frank), but I enjoy the '04 because it doesn't feel like a CBM. It feels like this just vengeful tale of a man trying to get revenge and justice for his entire family being murdered, but I definitely think we need to see Punisher in the MCU for sure

I think X-Men: First Class was really good, but I don't think its nearly as good as SM2. I think if any X-Men film should be compared in terms of quality, it would be X2: X-Men United. All great movies though.

Agreed. Spider-Man 2 is definitely better than First Class while First Class is better than X2, imo.

[Picard Sisko]

Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

I definitely think we need a Punisher film in the MCU that has a more comic book feel to it(with Thomas Jane as Frank), but I enjoy the '04 because it doesn't feel like a CBM. It feels like this just vengeful tale of a man trying to get revenge and justice for his entire family being murdered, but I definitely think we need to see Punisher in the MCU for sure

Why did Tom Jane refuse to be in The Punisher: War Zone? I assume he read the script and saw how awful it was. I'm glad he made the Dirty Laundry short film, because it showed his interest in returning as the Punisher in the future.

I think that Marvel Studios should make a Marvel Knights Universe, which could have The Punisher, Luke Cage, Daredevil, Blade, etc. This is where they could have some Rated R movies for these characters.

Agreed. Spider-Man 2 is definitely better than First Class while First Class is better than X2, imo.

I really wish First Class could be connected to X-Men and X2.

[Anno_Domini]

Thomas Jane was still on the project until 2006 I believe when he just dropped out after the script went through re-write after re-write.

[Picard Sisko]

I don't really blame him lol.

[OcStat]

I remember SHH! posting a short blog Jane wrote about how he was resigning from War Zone because he felt he could not commit to the final version, given his passion for the character and what not. Something to that effect.

Actually seeing as how Punisher's first appearance was in Spider-Man I think the ASM creative team could come up with a neat story featuring Spider-Man and the Punisher. Not that it would happen.

[Oscorp]

I love when actors show so much heart and passion for a comic book character! I wonder if Jane was a fan of Punisher even before his first Punisher film or if he became that in the process.

It's like how Ryan Reynolds is such a big comic book fan, especially Deadpool. I can't wait 'til we see a proper Deadpool with Reynolds in the role.

Are there more examples of this? Andrew Garfield is a fan of Spidey but I wouldn't say it's in the same way Jane for example is passionate about Punisher or Reynolds about Deadpool.

[Anno_Domini]

Don't forget Christian Bale has mentioned many times his favorite piece of work with Batman is Dark Victory.

[OcStat]

I would say Garfield is the most prominent example of the lead actor being a fan of the source material. He has been a fan since childhood. From reading one of his interviews before the movie came out I got the impression Garfield's history with Spider-Man was a lot like my own, or the majority of us posting here.

Reynolds didn't have the balls to speak up against the butchered version of his beloved character that showed up in Wolverine. Nicholas Cage has a Ghost Rider tattoo and participated in 2 butcheries. I commened Jane for putting his love for the character before his paycheck. (Granted War Zone wouldn't of added to much to his bank account.)

Who knows though, maybe they were just genuinely excited and grateful just to play dress up as their heroes.

I don't think Bale can be mentioned with those others because he wasn't reading any of those comics before he was cast. But that doesn't take anything away from his performance of course.

[Anno_Domini]

You don't think Bale was? What makes you say that?

[OcStat]

My post got cut short, had to edit. Sorry bout that.

[Anno_Domini]

It's never said when Bale first read Dark Victory. Only that's his favorite.

[OcStat]

He has said he didn't read any Batman before getting the role. Nolan assigned the cast comics to read, like homework. I'd imagine its the norm in most cases for CBMs.

I've yet to read Dark Victory myself actually.

[Anno_Domini]

Dark Victory was never assigned though with BB, TDK or TDKR even.

[OcStat]

Well that's pretty cool, that tells me perhaps he enjoyed what he read enough to seek out some more Batman books of his own accord.

[Oscorp]

Originally Posted by OcStat

I would say Garfield is the most prominent example of the lead actor being a fan of the source material. He has been a fan since childhood. From reading one of his interviews before the movie came out I got the impression Garfield's history with Spider-Man was a lot like my own, or the majority of us posting here.

Reynolds didn't have the balls to speak up against the butchered version of his beloved character that showed up in Wolverine. Nicholas Cage has a Ghost Rider tattoo and participated in 2 butcheries. I commened Jane for putting his love for the character before his paycheck. (Granted War Zone wouldn't of added to much to his bank account.)

Who knows though, maybe they were just genuinely excited and grateful just to play dress up as their heroes.

I don't think Bale can be mentioned with those others because he wasn't reading any of those comics before he was cast. But that doesn't take anything away from his performance of course.

If I remember correctly, Nicholas Cage's last name is because of Luke Cage.

[Picard Sisko]

Originally Posted by Oscorp

If I remember correctly, Nicholas Cage's last name is because of Luke Cage.

Maybe he can play Luke Cage then? Oh wait...

[Spider-Fan83]

interesting... I always thought it was after Johnny Cage from MK
(though, know that I think of it that came out in 92, he's been using the name longer then that)

[OcStat]

Cage also is a big fan of Superman...remember when he was attached to that? I was in elementary school ha. It's to bad the guy just can't get out of his ****** movie slump.

[Fox]

Wowsers. Been a while since I was on here.

(A belated new years to everyone)

For those of you who had ever followed or read my Spider-movie series, I've just put up the very last entry on my blog

http://fenskeland.blogspot.ca/2013/0...ider-word.html

It's mostly a mish-mash of all the final little points I've wanted to make about the film, but couldn't work into any of my previous posts.

I doubt I'll be changing anyone's mind (for those of you who prefer Raimi's offerings) at this point in the game, but I thought I'd put it up here for posterity.