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Old 12-10-2012, 10:06 PM   #526
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Plus, do some people expect Nolan to do something silly and spell out on the bottom during each time jump..." 1 month later, 3 months later or 6 months later or something?
No, but he'd likely do well to incorporate the time-lapses into dialogue. I haven't seen the film for a couple of months, so I can't guarantee that he didn't do that. All I know is that it never really hit me that everything was stretched over a course of several months until, like, my third viewing. I stopped and was like... "Hold on a minute... It's snowing... How much time has passed??"

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Old 12-11-2012, 12:50 AM   #527
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Just saw it on blu-ray again. I freaking love this movie! It gets better with each viewing as you pick up things you missed before like all other Nolan movies. The whole "how did Bruce get from the pit prison to Gotham and find Selina so fast?" question for me got answered as I paid careful attention to the dialog. A scene before Bruce escapes, Fox explains how the bomb will go off in 23 days. When Bruce finds Selina he says that the bomb will go off the next day. So Bruce had 20+ days to get back to Gotham and track and find Selina. He's the goddam Batman so he should have no trouble doing that in that amount of time.
TDKR is tied with TDK as my favorite Batman movie with Begins coming in next.

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Old 12-11-2012, 09:17 AM   #528
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Dang, that ruins my theory, Mac Hine.

I was almost certain that Superman flew Batman back to Gotham after he climbed out of the pit...

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Old 12-16-2012, 10:19 PM   #529
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I love Rises. I love it more and more on each watch. I honestly think many people who dislike it are blinded by the "flaws" in TDK as well. There are just as many inconsistencies, WTF's, and gaps in that film but for some reason it gets a pass while Rises takes the brunt of the attack.

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Old 12-16-2012, 10:37 PM   #530
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I love Rises. I love it more and more on each watch. I honestly think many people who dislike it are blinded by the "flaws" in TDK as well. There are just as many inconsistencies, WTF's, and gaps in that film but for some reason it gets a pass while Rises takes the brunt of the attack.
It's okay. Rises can "take it".

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Old 12-19-2012, 06:23 AM   #531
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I have to say that TDKR doesnt hold to repeat viewings as much as BB and TDK, I have watched it 3 times now on BD and 1st enjoyed it just as much as the cinema, but my enjoyment has gotten less and less with each viewing, and this didnt happen with BB and TDK, in fact both just got better.

I dont know what it is, the performances are superb, and whats happens to the characters within the story feels natural, but there is just something, off about it. The 3rd act or 'war' if you wanna call it that, seems to go by FAR too quickly, were as everything between Bane breaking Batman and him coming back seems to drag on a bit too much. I think a lot of the 2nd act could have been shortened and more fat added to the 3rd act, which it needed IMO. I still dont like the 8 year gap in movie-time either, I just cant see Bruce quitting like that even with Rachel's death, in fact I think he would just lose himself in Batman more and more.

I still like the movie, I just dont like it as much as I did in the cinema, I do feel the last 10 mins elevates the movie a lot as the way everything is wrapped up is superb. But overall, while still a very good movie, it is slowly becoming my least favourite of the trilogy. I will watch the movie again of course, and I intend to watch all 3 back-to-back very soon as after Xmas I am off work for 3 months, so maybe that'll change my perception.

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Old 01-06-2013, 05:27 AM   #532
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Does Nolan have a special preferences over dark hair women?

He only cast Brunettes in his movies.....Katie Holmes, Maggie Gyllenhall, Ann Hathaway, Marion Cotillard, Ellen Page...........

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I watched it for only the second time ever (I know right?) but I'm glad I did. Even though I have my problems TIH it and Bane's voice is seriously stupid this movie is as awesome as it was when I watched it back in July 2012.

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Old 01-06-2013, 10:43 PM   #534
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So I just got done watching the movie again and I still absolutely LOVE this movie. However, I was left wondering why he would lie about the autopilot not functioning to Selina. I mean he just flat out told her "no autopilot", when in fact it was fixed. I wonder if the intent was to make the city think that he was dead and then reveal that he is alive to those closest to him? That just made me curious is all.

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I thought that it was because he still had the chance to fulfill the death wish he longed so much. For me, the close up is him pondering if he would choose to save himself.

Other posters had pointed out that perhaps he hadn't tested the autopilot, so there was still the chance that he couldn't make it, and he didn't want to give Selina a false hope.

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I thought that it was because he still had the chance to fulfill the death wish he longed so much. For me, the close up is him pondering if he would choose to save himself.

Other posters had pointed out that perhaps he hadn't tested the autopilot, so there was still the chance that he couldn't make it, and he didn't want to give Selina a false hope.
My thoughts exactly. You can even say Bruce's expression was one of relief. Very, very nice moment.

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Apart from Nolan using it as a narrative misdirection device, I read it as Batman saying there is no autopilot as manual control is necessary up to a point. Until he hit the ocean he had to negotiate the streets and skyscrapers, using The Bat’s cannons to clear a path. The bomb was very heavy and scraped along the ground upon take-off. Once The Bat was in the clear, he definitely had a choice to make if he wanted to live.

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So I just got done watching the movie again and I still absolutely LOVE this movie. However, I was left wondering why he would lie about the autopilot not functioning to Selina. I mean he just flat out told her "no autopilot", when in fact it was fixed. I wonder if the intent was to make the city think that he was dead and then reveal that he is alive to those closest to him? That just made me curious is all.
He didn't plan on bringing Selena with him. I mean, up to 11 minutes prior, he was in a relationship with Miranda.

He wanted everyone to think he was dead.

I imagine that it isn't till afterwards, thinking about that kiss, that it hits him that he still has a hope for a 'normal life', so he brings Selena with him.


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Old 01-08-2013, 01:33 PM   #540
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They just threw that in there, so there could be a cheap twist at the end. That's really the only explanation to it.

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Old 01-10-2013, 02:18 PM   #541
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I already wrote this in another thread but here you go:

This is my take on TDKR. It was a very good conclusion to the Nolan Batman trilogy. But it was full of plot holes, and several things I just didn't buy, such as the scene where the Cops and Mercenaries have their battle in the streets of Gotham, the "clean slate" device, even or the whole ending for that matter. Bane was a good villain, but if it wasn't for his cool voice, he would be rather unmemorable IMO. The pacing was off, and the editing could have been better; the first chase scene begins during the day, but seconds later it is suddenly nighttime. Seriously?

There were a lot of problems I had with the movie, some nitpicks, others legit complaints. Aside from that, like I said earlier, its a good conclusion to the Nolan trilogy. It was a great experience, and I'm happy we were given some of the best Batman movies we will probably ever see. I am still not happy that Batman only donned the Batman costume for about a year and a half within the three films, but oh well.

My final grade for the film:

8/10

Just so you can compare to my ratings to the other Batman films:

Batman Begins - 8.5/10
The Dark Knight - 9.5/10

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Batman (1989) - 7/10
Batman Returns - 7.5/10
Batman Forever - 3.5/10
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Just stopped by to say bought the Walmart 2 disc dvd with 3 hours of extras with the batmobile.... LOVED the movie.

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I need to see TDKR again....I need my fix, lol. Maybe I'll just watch the entire trilogy.

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I notice a lot of people have problems with no real answer as to how Bruce got back to Gotham after he climbed out of the pit. But I got to thinking, is it really that hard to assume that he did something similar to what he did in begins? I mean he hid on a boat and disappeared for years overseas before training to become Batman. So being as skilled as he is at that point in time, wouldnt getting back to Gotham unnoticed be easy?

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I notice a lot of people have problems with no real answer as to how Bruce got back to Gotham after he climbed out of the pit. But I got to thinking, is it really that hard to assume that he did something similar to what he did in begins? I mean he hid on a boat and disappeared for years overseas before training to become Batman. So being as skilled as he is at that point in time, wouldnt getting back to Gotham unnoticed be easy?
The problem with that is that the filmmakers quite clearly set up how impossible it is to get in or out of Gotham. That Bruce managed to find a way into the country, fine, I'll buy that without having to see it. But when you take screentime to set up the difficulty of getting into a place, it feels awful cheap to have your protagonist magically find a way in off screen.

Maybe some will say "Well, he IS Batman".
Fine, but let's not forget that we had an entire movie in this trilogy that was dedicated to showing HOW Batman operated in great detail. TDK, while not as in depth about it, certainly maintained that notion of letting us see how Batman operates. So for TDKR to pull the "well, he IS Batman" card feels both cheap and inconsistent with the other films.

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So I just got done watching the movie again and I still absolutely LOVE this movie. However, I was left wondering why he would lie about the autopilot not functioning to Selina. I mean he just flat out told her "no autopilot", when in fact it was fixed. I wonder if the intent was to make the city think that he was dead and then reveal that he is alive to those closest to him? That just made me curious is all.
I thought it was a new steering system? Didn't Fox say that it was?
Damn now I have to watch it again lol

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The problem with that is that the filmmakers quite clearly set up how impossible it is to get in or out of Gotham. That Bruce managed to find a way into the country, fine, I'll buy that without having to see it. But when you take screentime to set up the difficulty of getting into a place, it feels awful cheap to have your protagonist magically find a way in off screen.

Maybe some will say "Well, he IS Batman".
Fine, but let's not forget that we had an entire movie in this trilogy that was dedicated to showing HOW Batman operated in great detail. TDK, while not as in depth about it, certainly maintained that notion of letting us see how Batman operates. So for TDKR to pull the "well, he IS Batman" card feels both cheap and inconsistent with the other films.
I guess thats true...but, and im not trying to start an argument here, I thought the stipulation concerning Gotham was that no one could leave. I mean clearly they let people in for supplies, as for other people like citizens one would assume that no one would want enter but would they stop them? And if Bruce could could make it back to the country, I dont feel like sneaking on to a supply truck would be that hard, or even act like a volunteer. I know a simple two minute scene could explain all this but I felt given how he has just disappeared and shown up before we dont need to see how he does it because we know he is capable.

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I guess thats true...but, and im not trying to start an argument here, I thought the stipulation concerning Gotham was that no one could leave. I mean clearly they let people in for supplies, as for other people like citizens one would assume that no one would want enter but would they stop them? And if Bruce could could make it back to the country, I dont feel like sneaking on to a supply truck would be that hard, or even act like a volunteer. I know a simple two minute scene could explain all this but I felt given how he has just disappeared and shown up before we dont need to see how he does it because we know he is capable.
I'm not trying to start an argument either haha. Don't get me wrong, it certainly didn't ruin the movie for me, it wasn't even the straw that broke the camel's back, but it did pull me out of the movie and made me start wondering just how the hell he got back there. Even a fifteen second clip of a disguised Bruce sneaking on to a supply truck would have prevented that moment of being pulled out of the fictive dream. Like I said, didn't ruin the movie for me by any stretch but it is an example of a poor storytelling decision.

The only reason I can think of (other than time or just poor judgement) for not including how Bruce got back is because Nolan wanted us to have that same sense of surprise that Selina has when she hears his voice. But it's not the same because unlike Selina, we saw Bruce climb out of the pit. We knew he was alive the whole time. Furthermore, Anne's expression totally sells the shock she feels more than adequately.

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This may sound silly, but I assumed he made it across the ice.

Remember his fight with Ras in Begins? Fighting on the ice and Bruce falling through the ice. Then Ras telling him to always mind his surroundings.

Now if the general audience would be able to put that all together... IDK...

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