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he might. The Last Stand defently did more damage to franchise than Origins did. |
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Some believe Singer may not want to acknowledge X3 or work with any of its actors, and in some ways that's understandable. But, then again, the different directors brought into later films in other series (like Bond, Potter, Twilight, Hunger Games and the Marvel films) have had to work with actors they didn't cast and sets/locations they didn't choose and plot points they may not have wanted if they had the choice. I don't mind what they choose to do with the films as long as they put some sort of masterplan in place for what's coming next and as long as we get well-made movies.
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Looks like Robopocalyspse is being delayed again. Would be cool if Singer could nab Guy Diaz.
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Too late.
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If only the third Hobbit film could be delayed instead. Or better yet, cancelled altogether.
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Yeah, I'm fine with the guy they have now though.
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The box-office numbers of the original trilogy is still way better than the box-office numbers of Origins: Wolverine/First Class especially if you when you adjust the numbers. It shows that the casual viewers are more interested seeing the original cast. And to be honest, a X-Men 4 movie would earn so much money than a First Class movie with the younger version of Cyclops/Jean Grey. So there isn't really no harm in making a X-men 4 movie except for expecting the movie to be so huge at the box-office. I get what you are saying about bringing all the original cast is a wishful thinking. I want FOX to continue the original series, but I don't want them to bring back Ian McKellen, Patrick Stewart, Famke Jannsen, James Marsden (incase they make a good comeback story for him) and Rebecca Romijn. Some of them already died and I want X-Men to face new villains, to have new members in their team, I want the X-Men to move forward without Professor X leading them just like in the comics.
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I'd like some of them back for DOFP, but I don't think there's a need for all of them to return.
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X-Men - PB $75m -- US $157m - WW $296m X2 - PB $110m -- US $214m - WW $407m X3 - PB $210 -- US $234 - WW $459 XOW - PB $150 -- US $179 - WW $373 XFC - PB $160 -- US $146 - WW $353 Casual viewers skipping the subsequent film is more down to declining quality than a different cast.
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I think there are more factors included too. Like marketing promo, for example.
But of course, the very first movie of the FC series with a whole new cast wouldnt get more boxoffice than X2 or X3. The ultimate challenge would have been the sequel with just the same cast but since DOFP will have actors from original trilogy, we wont ever know what could have happen with that. Last edited by Angamb; 01-10-2013 at 09:20 AM. |
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But familiar faces (or lack of) also has an effect. That's evident by the buzz surrounding the return of actors from the original trilogy. Whether McKellen and Stewart willl be enough to lure fans back is another matter; I think they will need some more of the old faces back. In an alternate future, they could show Jean and Scott as alive. But that could also be confusing for mainstream viewers who don't grasp the 'alternate' concept. I think most of us would like to see the familiar faces return, as well as the gradual introduction of new characters and the development of secondary characters like Colossus and Jubilee.
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So we've reached 'bargaining'? That's the one after denial, right?
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What's that supposed to mean?
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Jackman, McKellen and Stewart alone are enough to peak interest and draw crowd. Add to that 2 time Oscar nominated actress and star of the wildly popular Hunger Games franchise, Jennifer Lawrence (
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definetly.
If they get back both Hugh and Halle, the general audience will have even more interest, thats for sure. And about x-men fans, I guess they/us would need at least two more x-men to have the highest hype ![]() I just pray two of these are back: Kitty, Rogue, Collosus, Iceman. |
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definetly.
If they get back both Hugh and Halle, the general audience will have even more interest, thats for sure. And about x-men fans, I guess they/us would need at least two more x-men to have the highest hype ![]() I just pray two of these are back: Kitty, Rogue, Collosus, Iceman. |
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I think people are getting carried away with the idea that Singer is going to come in and get things back on track post X3. It's never going to be like it was again. I think if anything, this will be a final swan song to the original cast (except perhaps Jackman)
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Your forgetting Days of future past has star of series Hugh Jackman In It.Fox can promate the wolverine with Oscar nominee Hugh Jackman In promos.And people need to
accept the possabilty of Wolverine as time traveler in film. I am expecting 3 more origina trilogy actors In film to join Hugh,Patrick,and Ian.That would jibe with the substantul number of oT actore report that came out after It was reported Bryan signed the deal to direct DOFP.From reports on The Wolverine we can probally count James Marsden and Famke Janssen out.So we are probally looking at Anna Paquin,Halle Berry,and Rebecca Romijn.That would be majority of actors who were In all three films of trilogy.Bryan and Lauren Shueller Donnor may want DOFP to viewed as X4 as well as first Class sequel.It's pure speculation on my part but only way I see Ellen Page Returning as Kitty If they couldn't make DOFP work with Anna's true blood schedule.True Blood starts filming this month and has fewer episodes ordered.DOFP starts sometime In April.Although James Mcavoy has said he doesn't start work till may. And even then there Is Question Is ELlen Page even Intrested In returning to X-Men.She had to be begged to audition for last STand.But,maybe Bryan directing might Intrest her to return.That's pure speculation. As for treating the fuutre as pure alternate and not a post triilogy fuutre before the time traveling.With the Wolverine suspose to tie Into DOFP I am speculating that before time travel the fuutre Is post Trilogy+The Wolverine.However If James or Famke are announced as returning by Bryan before filming In tweet there Is no way around It that means the future Is pure alternate.Now how the Wolverine could tie Into DOFP then who knows. My guess If they go down the alternate path Is to treat Days of future past as pure prequel to Trilogy.The alternate future comes out of assassination magneto and brotherhood commit that leads to Sentinles.Time travel from that future prevents event and leads to Trilogy and The Wolverine coming Into bearing.That's the best way I could guess doing alternate future and connecting dots between films Bryan has mentioned. By the time Bryan promates Jack The Giant Slayer we should have a good Idea on the cast of DOFP.Bryan Is sure to be asked DOFP questions then. |
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as a studio point of view, this is too huge of a opportunity to miss it so quickly We definetly are on a whole NEW era for comicbook movies, so right now most Studios are thinking bigger than before. So... what huge thing could Fox do after Dofp? to get the original cast back for at least one last sequel. ![]() |
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wouldn't say she would be a general audience favorate.Today halle Is a tabloid star.X-Men would be chance for her to make news besides her custody battle and men In her life and back to carrer again. Hugh was just nominated for an oscar and Jennifer Lawrence received her second oscar nomination.If fox doesn't use that to help promate the film I would be surprised. There Is possibilty that both Colssus and Iceman are left out.And only 1 between Rogue or Kitty returns. |
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I highly doubt Wolverine is the only x-man in this future.
if that ends being the case, Ill be dissapointed. |
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My only wish is that Singer finds a way to erase the phoenix handling in X3 and does it properly. I actually enjoyed X3 though the treatment of the phoenix was very underwhelming and seemed kind of tacked on. I'm not a big brian singer fan (X2 is really the only thing I enjoyed from him), but I did appreciate how he introduced the Phoenix and gave us a taste of the direction his treatment was going in...I would like to see the Phoenix story line done properly....but that may not be possible at Fox.
And how about Mr. Sinister (and the Acolytes) or Apolocaplypse (and the four horsemen)...it would be nice to see some real grade A villains besides Magneto. I was not impressed with Shaw in First Class, but I did like White Queen. |
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i think Fox ARE going to want to give the franchise a big push but I don't think they're going to rely on old actors from a franchise that struggled. I think they're going to want to take the younger actors they've got and keep going in the First Class direction.
I think it's very unlikely that they would be able to get Famke, James, Jackman, McKellan, Stewart, Page, Berry etc to a)Commit to 3 films (which let's be honest, is EXACTLY what fox will be after, a multi picture deal) and B) a lot of those actors will be starting to get too old for a 3 picture deal. Now sure, people like Jackman etc still look alright now, but 3 pictures is what, 8 to 9 years? That's a long time. And look how a lot of you guys are acting... 3 original actors have been announced, 2 of which are the older versions of the young, First Class actors and one of them is an immortal character who looks the same. Now, not only are a lot of you ASSUMING we're going to get a cavalcade of other original trilogy characters, but talking about how this will open up another trilogy with the original actors? It's purely wishful thinking, wrapped in denial that that chapter of the X-franchise is as dead as we thought. Singer AND the original actors back has sparked a false hope, but that's NOT what we're going to get. This isn't X-Men 4, this is First Class 2. |
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