The Avengers 2! The Official News and Speculation Thread

[747]

Love the new Whedon quotes. "Don't go bigger, go deeper" – exactly what I want from a sequel to The Avengers! Hopefully it means more dramatic depth, which was the only little thing lacking in the first one for me.

[mclay18]

Originally Posted by Chewy

Nah, they aren't going to bump it from their 1.5B date to March. LOL

March is pretty lucrative now. The first film opened when kids were still in school (May 4th), and it still broke the opening weekend record.

But I think Marvel will be content to let Whedon make the best film he can, without getting pummeled by the compact post-production schedule.

[Chewy]

Not really. March is like June, August, etc. A month where a bunch of studios schedule their second tier blockbusters and hope for a breakout.

The big boy dates are the first weekend of May, memorial day, 4th of July, 3rd weekend of July, Thanksgiving, week before Christmas. You aren't gonna see a studio move a movie out of one of those dates unless they don't have faith it'll perform

Avengers had a 200M OW precisely because the kids were still in school. May = bigger weekends, smaller weekdays

[cherokeesam]

Originally Posted by 747

Love the new Whedon quotes. "Don't go bigger, go deeper" – exactly what I want from a sequel to The Avengers! Hopefully it means more dramatic depth, which was the only little thing lacking in the first one for me.

That quote, and the one about using a scalpel to cause pain, and the older quote about this installment being more personal, makes it sound like the villain gets inside their brains and goes all psychological and ****.

[terry78]

That's kind of a rehash of Loki though. I figure he means that personally they all start to kind of just mistrust or take issue with each other as teams do anyway. If it may be on a smaller scale I suspect we may still get the MoE.

[ThePhantasm]

I dunno, team in-fighting gets tedious and boring. I'm hoping it means something other than that.

[chamber-music]

I think he might explore the team dynamics and relationships more in the sequel. I don't think it will just be more arguing even though that is pretty much what happened alot in the old Avengers comics.

[Chewy]

By "go deeper" he means there will be approximately 200 subtle hints at Spider-Man peppered in because rival movie studios totes love cooperating with each other with no real financial incentive

[cherokeesam]

Originally Posted by terry78

That's kind of a rehash of Loki though. I figure he means that personally they all start to kind of just mistrust or take issue with each other as teams do anyway. If it may be on a smaller scale I suspect we may still get the MoE.

Well, he specifically said "cause pain," whereas Loki's M.O. was just to sow discord. I think Joss is talking about the villain creating personal emotional pain for each Avenger this time, like kidnapping or killing people they care personally about, or digging up old ghosts from their past. I think we're going to see a lot of that in *all* the Phase II films, anyway; maybe it's just more pronounced in Avengers 2.

[OB12]

I really have a feeling that Phase 2 is going to be really spectacular. I love the Phase 1 movies, but the thing that is cool to me is that Marvel really seems to be working as a cohesive unit. They have Gunn/Russos/Black/Wright all collaborating on some level with Whedon. That is some pretty great talent and I think it is going to show in the finished products.

[Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by OB12

I really have a feeling that Phase 2 is going to be really spectacular. I love the Phase 1 movies, but the thing that is cool to me is that Marvel really seems to be working as a cohesive unit. They have Gunn/Russos/Black/Wright all collaborating on some level with Whedon. That is some pretty great talent and I think it is going to show in the finished products.

Yeah I totally agree. They'll all be separate but (hopefully) masterfully tied together. Just think...the TV show could/should keep those ties going and be the perfect bridge in the movie gaps. Subtly ofcourse. With a great opportunity to intro some lesser known characters or ones that will (probably) never get a solo film. Marvel is killing it!

[Hawkingbird]

It will be interesting to see if they incoperate the TV show with the films.

[Spider-Vader]

Filming starting this year would be a dream come true.

[LuisTX85]

Originally Posted by 747

Love the new Whedon quotes. "Don't go bigger, go deeper" – exactly what I want from a sequel to The Avengers! Hopefully it means more dramatic depth, which was the only little thing lacking in the first one for me.

Fully agree!

[I'm Venom]

Originally Posted by terry78

That's kind of a rehash of Loki though. I figure he means that personally they all start to kind of just mistrust or take issue with each other as teams do anyway. If it may be on a smaller scale I suspect we may still get the MoE.

I'd be all for the Masters of Evil, as long as they set it up with the Phase III movies. Introduce Baron Zemo in Captain America 3 and Enchantress and Executioner in Thor 3, and you already have the core for an epic supervillain teamup, so by the time we reach Avengers 3, we'll have enough villains for the Masters of Evil.

[jaqua99]

Originally Posted by I'm Venom

I'd be all for the Masters of Evil, as long as they set it up with the Phase III movies. Introduce Baron Zemo in Captain America 3 and Enchantress and Executioner in Thor 3, and you already have the core for an epic supervillain teamup, so by the time we reach Avengers 3, we'll have enough villains for the Masters of Evil.

who do you think will be the cap villain in the second movie then?

[matrix_ghost]

Originally Posted by SuperSAINT

So much good stuff in there

"Don't go bigger; go deeper,"

That's what she said

[I'm Venom]

Originally Posted by jaqua99

who do you think will be the cap villain in the second movie then?

Frank Grillo has landed the role of the villainous Crossbones in Marvel and Disney's "Captain America: The Winter Soldier."

A key villain in Captain America's rogues gallery, character debuted in 1989 as Brock Rumlow, a leader of the Savage Crims gang in New York's lower East Side before joining a school for criminals and later becoming a henchman of the Red Skull under the code name Crossbones.

Grillo tweeted last week that he had tested for a role in the "Captain America" sequel, and hinted of the character with the hashtag "bones." Thesp most recently appeared in "End of Watch," "The Grey" and "Warrior," and will next have supporting roles in "Gangster Squad" and "Zero Dark Thirty."

Chris Evans returns as the star-spangled hero in "Captain America: Winter Soldier," along with Sebastian Stan as Bucky Barnes (who becomes assassin the Winter Soldier), Samuel L. Jackson, Cobie Smulders and Scarlett Johansson. Anthony Mackie will play Cap ally The Falcon.

Anthony Russo and Joe Russo are helming the actioner from a script by Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely. Pic is dated for an April 4, 2014 release.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118061391

[jaqua99]

Originally Posted by I'm Venom

Frank Grillo has landed the role of the villainous Crossbones in Marvel and Disney's "Captain America: The Winter Soldier."

A key villain in Captain America's rogues gallery, character debuted in 1989 as Brock Rumlow, a leader of the Savage Crims gang in New York's lower East Side before joining a school for criminals and later becoming a henchman of the Red Skull under the code name Crossbones.

Grillo tweeted last week that he had tested for a role in the "Captain America" sequel, and hinted of the character with the hashtag "bones." Thesp most recently appeared in "End of Watch," "The Grey" and "Warrior," and will next have supporting roles in "Gangster Squad" and "Zero Dark Thirty."

Chris Evans returns as the star-spangled hero in "Captain America: Winter Soldier," along with Sebastian Stan as Bucky Barnes (who becomes assassin the Winter Soldier), Samuel L. Jackson, Cobie Smulders and Scarlett Johansson. Anthony Mackie will play Cap ally The Falcon.

Anthony Russo and Joe Russo are helming the actioner from a script by Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely. Pic is dated for an April 4, 2014 release.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118061391

I know about Crossbones. lol I'm talking about the villain pulling the strings. Considering there was another villainous role being auditioned for. Majority of people assume it to be Zemo. These phase 2 movies seem packed

[I'm Venom]

Originally Posted by jaqua99

I know about Crossbones. lol I'm talking about the villain pulling the strings. Considering there was another villainous role being auditioned for. Majority of people assume it to be Zemo. These phase 2 movies seem packed

"Pulling the strings" doesn't necessarily mean on-screen presence.

[Spider-Vader]

I really think that Baron Zemo will be in the movie somewhere. I'll be disappointed if he isn't.

[TheHeatKitchen]

Originally Posted by Spider-Vader

I really think that Baron Zemo will be in the movie somewhere. I'll be disappointed if he isn't.

Ditto. He better be in the plot somewhere. Even if he doesn't physically show up until the end, they need to acknowledge who's designing all of this nonsense with the Winter Soldier and Crossbones.

[jaqua99]

I expect him to actually be a somewhat main character. Atleast by the second half of the movie. i'd love to find out that he and cap met before

[I'm Venom]

It's also rumored that Crossbones will be in more than one movie.

Abomination is still in custody, have him and Swordsman start out as henchmen for the Masters of Evil.

Villains:
Baron Zemo (leader)
Abomination
Crossbones
Enchantress
Executioner
Swordsman

My villains are a work in progress, but the lineup is pretty solid.

[Hawkingbird]

That would be awesome!