How will a sense of danger be established for Superman?

[Hypestyle]

considering his traditional invulnerability, especially the silver-age-era of planet-moving.. what, short of an unending series of kryptonite-based weapons, will be able to harm him? Will anything be able to hit him really hard or cause burning or cold damage at all? If Superman's going to be "reinvented" for the 21st+ century, then this is a thematic element that needs to be updated, seriously.

[PSYLENTGuardian]

I think they're already establishing that by having General Zod and other fellow Kryptonians for villains. There, you already have a conflict that is just as powerful as, or even stronger than Superman himself. That sense of danger is definitely going to be present, since we know and have seen briefly that Superman falls down on his knees and spits out blood.

[herolee10]

Originally Posted by PSYLENTGuardian

I think they're already establishing that by having General Zod and other fellow Kryptonians for villains. There, you already have a conflict that is just as powerful as, or even stronger than Superman himself. That sense of danger is definitely going to be present, since we know and have seen briefly that Superman falls down on his knees and spits out blood.

agreed; I think it was said that someone with supposed official sources stated that Faora is such a established fighter that she's able to hit all of the weak points of Superman's physical anatomy, causing him to suffer a great deal of amount of pain, regardless of his powers.

[sup101]

How will they establish it.They'll show him getting his butt kicked by zod, faora and co.

[AnneFan]

Originally Posted by sup101

How will they establish it.They'll show him getting his butt kicked by zod, faora and co.

That will work. Military type fighters coming down and hitting all the sweet spots.

[chamber-music]

Kryptonian villains have all the powers he has so Superman will meet his match and face a genuine threat in Man Of Steel.

General Zod and Faora are professional soldiers probably with years of military training, experience and advanced Kryptonian technology and knowledge.

I think Earths military should be able to slow Superman down if they bombard him with bombs and missiles but not stop him or cause any serious injury.

[BH/HHH]

Originally Posted by sup101

How will they establish it.They'll show him getting his butt kicked by zod, faora and co.

[Anubis]

Originally Posted by chamber-music

Kryptonian villains have all the powers he has so Superman will meet his match and face a genuine threat in Man Of Steel.

General Zod and Faora are professional soldiers probably with years of military training, experience and advanced Kryptonian technology and knowledge.

I think Earths military should be able to slow Superman down if they bombard him with bombs and missiles but not stop him or cause any serious injury.

Or sonics. Or various types of energy weapons. People take the invulnerability thing too seriously. He might not die, but you can hurt him.

[SuperFerret]

Read a comic book. He's very resistant to being hurt, but he's not immune to it.

[BH/HHH]

Originally Posted by Anubis

Or sonics. Or various types of energy weapons. People take the invulnerability thing too seriously. He might not die, but you can hurt him.

everything's already been said

[chamber-music]

Originally Posted by Anubis

Or sonics. Or various types of energy weapons. People take the invulnerability thing too seriously. He might not die, but you can hurt him.

I would of said hi-tech stuff but so far we have yet to see the earth army with any advanced science fiction like weapons type stuff.

I hope they do have some though. The Dark Knight Trilogy had microwave emitters, EMP guns, ect.

[747]

Faora was a Kryptonian martial arts expert in the comics. I think she will be quite lethal to a Superman without much fight experience. Same with the military Zod and his battle armor.

[zman]

Its something the SR game kinda got right: Superman can't die (yeah Kryptonite I know) so the threat comes from having people close to him being threatened if not killed, like breaking his spirit first to get him down.

[Anubis]

Or you know, all the stuff we already said.

[Lead Cenobite]

Originally Posted by chamber-music

I would of said hi-tech stuff but so far we have yet to see the earth army with any advanced science fiction like weapons type stuff.

I hope they do have some though. The Dark Knight Trilogy had microwave emitters, EMP guns, ect.

I think part of the realism of Man of Steel will be that Earth's technological development is the same as real life. And there's no need for there to be any Earth tech in this movie that can hurt Superman when we have Kryptonians with Kryptonian tech. Maybe someone will reverse-engineer the tech that gets left behind at the end. That's the way I prefer it. Rather than lots of wacky sci-fi developments happening independent of Superman and Zod's arrival, their arrival is the catalyst.

[sf2]

Originally Posted by zman

Its something the SR game kinda got right: Superman can't die (yeah Kryptonite I know) so the threat comes from having people close to him being threatened if not killed, like breaking his spirit first to get him down.

Why superman can’t die??? Thought he has already died a few times?


Btw, I like the idea of people close to him being threatened.

[zman]

its not so much that its impossible, but story wise, its unlikely to happen is what I mean. The danger comes from the harm he can't prevent around him, and yeah sometimes he can't prevent said harm cause he's getting the ***beat out of him.

[ThePhantasm]

Originally Posted by zman

its not so much that its impossible, but story wise, its unlikely to happen is what I mean. The danger comes from the harm he can't prevent around him, and yeah sometimes he can't prevent said harm cause he's getting the ***beat out of him.

But that's basically true of any superhero...

[sf2]

Can I see a one vs 1000s... like Neo in the matrix.

[redhawk23]

Originally Posted by ThePhantasm

But that's basically true of any superhero...

And that's not really a problem. Its just the best available story telling when you can't really kill off the protagonist.

[747]

Harming someone doesn't need to be physically. And personally I find psychological harm just as if not more interesting.

[chamber-music]

Originally Posted by 747

Harming someone doesn't need to be physically. And personally I find psychological harm just as if not more interesting.

Me too.

Plenty of ways you can hurt someone outside of killing them. You could breaking someone mentally or morally or destroying someones reputuation all which were all touched on in the TDK trilogy.

[acedrake]

If Faora alone can kick supe's but all by herself why does Zod need an armored suit for? Maybe superman is stronger than her but not necessarily as skilled in combat and all it takes to take her down is one punch from Kal. Just wondering

[sup101]

The armor is zod military outfit on krypton.

[ThePhantasm]

Originally Posted by acedrake

If Faora alone can kick supe's but all by herself why does Zod need an armored suit for? Maybe superman is stronger than her but not necessarily as skilled in combat and all it takes to take her down is one punch from Kal. Just wondering

Superior armor / weaponry wins battles. Why would Zod want to fight Superman on even terms?