The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - - - Part 143 - Page 5

Anno_Domini · 01-15-2013, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueLightning

Batman Zombie... more interesting (?)

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Reminds me of Arkham Asylum during Scarecrow's last nightmare, haha.

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Originally Posted by the last son

What was so bad about Talia death scene? I mean not saying it was good but what was so god awful about it. I mean it's bad but I didn't think twice about it while viewing it.

There wasn't anything really bad about the death scene at all, imo, but a lot seem to think it was hilarious or what have you, but I sure as hell didn't mind it. Talia could have very well only been able to move her head after that crash and could've been paralyzed neck down and that's why only her head was moving during that scene. Easily, plausible answer right there. But some prefer to just laugh at it I guess.

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Originally Posted by Travesty

Her death was so bad, that they made a hilarious tumbler page out of it.

And when you have a Tumbler page, you know it's bad!

Travesty · 01-15-2013, 02:58 PM

You're right, it's just mocked with tons of gifs and memes because of the stellar performance.

Anno_Domini · 01-15-2013, 03:00 PM

Apparently now when there are gifs, it's bad as well.

Travesty · 01-15-2013, 03:01 PM

It is when the gifs consist of people mocking the death scene.

http://peopledyinglikemarioncotillard.tumblr.com/

shauner111 · 01-15-2013, 03:09 PM

People are exaggerating. Like i said, ive seen this movie with many people and i havent heard a peep from them. It's just a domino effect, people read online and they hear its so bad then they see it and theyre expecting it so they go AAHHAHAH OMG ITS SO TRUE!! ITSSS SO HORRIBLE.

I never heard a peep in the cinema either. All 4 times i saw it in theaters.

We're just spoiled over the last 20 years in death scenes. The head tilting was always a big part of someone dying on the big screen. Talias death wasn't even that bad.

Anno_Domini · 01-15-2013, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Travesty

It is when the gifs consist of people mocking the death scene.

http://peopledyinglikemarioncotillard.tumblr.com/

Lol. You're so right. You showed me that and won me over.

Talia's death scene was bad.

Kane52630 · 01-15-2013, 03:15 PM

That death scene wasn't poorly acted but poorly edited/directed.

One of my favorite bad death scenes goes to this.

the last son · 01-15-2013, 03:16 PM

All I'm saying is how is someone supposed to die? I didn't know there were rules for death scenes

Anno_Domini · 01-15-2013, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by the last son

All I'm saying is how is someone supposed to die? I didn't know there were rules for death scenes

Apparently, taking the complaints from both Bane and Talia...

you need to have a cool dying speech, not die after being shot by a canon and you can't just wobble your head.

Anno_Domini · 01-15-2013, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane52630

That death scene wasn't poorly acted but poorly edited/directed.

One of my favorite bad death scenes goes to this.

It's like he's saying...

"Damnit bro, why?"

Bim · 01-15-2013, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

It's like he's saying...

"Damnit bro, why?"

I actually picture a very girly scream first when he lets go of the gun

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Originally Posted by Travesty

It is when the gifs consist of people mocking the death scene.

http://peopledyinglikemarioncotillard.tumblr.com/

Oh man, this again LOL. It's still hilarious. And to me Talia's death was horrible, sorry. This mocking is well deserved.

Tequilla · 01-15-2013, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by the last son

What was so bad about Talia death scene? I mean not saying it was good but what was so god awful about it. I mean it's bad but I didn't think twice about it while viewing it.

These movies are well acted , lighted , and written so a iffy scene like that sticks like a sore thumb.

The rest is typical exaggeration on the internet.

Kane52630 · 01-15-2013, 03:39 PM

Pretty much, it's one of those things that if you nitpick at it too much it leds into "OMG WORST SCREEN DEATH EVER!"

Just_Human · 01-15-2013, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane52630

That death scene wasn't poorly acted but poorly edited/directed.

One of my favorite bad death scenes goes to this.

is that from Enter The Ninja?

daaaamn

Tacit Ronin · 01-15-2013, 04:11 PM

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That death scene wasn't poorly acted but poorly edited/directed.

It was absolutely poorly acted, which if we take Marion's talents into consideration, could be a symptom of poor direction. I didn't see any incongruous editing. Basic shot, reverse shot, it needed nothing more.

Travesty · 01-15-2013, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bim

Oh man, this again LOL. It's still hilarious. And to me Talia's death was horrible, sorry. This mocking is well deserved.

The animal ones are so funny.

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Originally Posted by Excelsior.

It was absolutely poorly acted, which if we take Marion's talents into consideration, could be a symptom of poor direction. I didn't see any incongruous editing. Basic shot, reverse shot, it needed nothing more.

I agree. An example of poorly edited/directed death scene in this series would be Gambol's in TDK and Foley's in TDKR.

BatmanBeyond · 01-15-2013, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane52630

That death scene wasn't poorly acted but poorly edited/directed.

One of my favorite bad death scenes goes to this.

Haha, I love that scene, it's hilarious.

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Originally Posted by Kane52630

Pretty much, it's one of those things that if you nitpick at it too much it leds into "OMG WORST SCREEN DEATH EVER!"

Yep.

Tacit Ronin · 01-15-2013, 06:00 PM

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I agree. An example of poorly edited/directed death scene in this series would be Gambol's in TDK and Foley's in TDKR.

God, Gambol's death makes me facepalm to this day. There is absolutely no cohesive sense of cinematic space within the stretch of time from the Joker knifing his flanks and bringing himself and his knife (what happened to the other one?) to Gambol's face.

BatLobsterRises · 01-15-2013, 06:02 PM

Good thing Heath is so mesmerizing in that scene that none of that matters at all.

Tacit Ronin · 01-15-2013, 06:06 PM

Heath's acting only saves that scene on the first or even the second viewing. On the third viewing it started to bother crap out of me. What happened to his other knife? Plus, those knives had some sort of super power to be able to completely and utterly silence anybody who was stabbed by it. No visual or aural cues of struggle whatsoever.

BlueLightning · 01-15-2013, 06:08 PM

That would be a little dark in an already dark movie. The implied violence works better for me.

RustyCage · 01-15-2013, 08:16 PM

Talia's death isn't the best acting I've ever seen, and it's not the worst either.

I would accuse the reaction of being dramatic, but that would make me a massive hypocrite. lol

The only death that offends (or depresses) me is Bane's. It borders on being overly anti-climactic. Deserved better.

Tacit Ronin · 01-15-2013, 08:30 PM

I felt that (with what I assume) an instant death was too merciful for a monster like Bane. I wanted him to die a slow and painful death.

redhawk23 · 01-15-2013, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

Apparently, taking the complaints from both Bane and Talia...

you need to have a cool dying speech, not die after being shot by a canon and you can't just wobble your head.

That's the problem, Talia does have a silly dying speech and then just wiggles her head. Its really non cinematic. The whole thing is poorly staged.

Anno_Domini · 01-15-2013, 10:26 PM

^ You didn't sense my sarcasm on my post it seems, lol.

01-15-2013, 02:58 PM	#102
Travesty TEOL Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Your Mom's House Posts: 21,402	Re: The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - - - Part 143 You're right, it's just mocked with tons of gifs and memes because of the stellar performance. __________________ He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film? Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in... Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two. The History of Batman Killing in the Comics

01-15-2013, 03:00 PM	#103
Anno_Domini Banned User Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 17,997	Re: The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - - - Part 143 Apparently now when there are gifs, it's bad as well.

01-15-2013, 03:01 PM	#104
Travesty TEOL Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Your Mom's House Posts: 21,402	Re: The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - - - Part 143 It is when the gifs consist of people mocking the death scene. http://peopledyinglikemarioncotillard.tumblr.com/ __________________ He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film? Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in... Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two. The History of Batman Killing in the Comics

01-15-2013, 03:09 PM	#105
shauner111 Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 14,126	Re: The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - - - Part 143 People are exaggerating. Like i said, ive seen this movie with many people and i havent heard a peep from them. It's just a domino effect, people read online and they hear its so bad then they see it and theyre expecting it so they go AAHHAHAH OMG ITS SO TRUE!! ITSSS SO HORRIBLE. I never heard a peep in the cinema either. All 4 times i saw it in theaters. We're just spoiled over the last 20 years in death scenes. The head tilting was always a big part of someone dying on the big screen. Talias death wasn't even that bad.

01-15-2013, 03:15 PM	#107
Kane52630 Animus Vox Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Skynet Posts: 81,640	Re: The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - - - Part 143 That death scene wasn't poorly acted but poorly edited/directed. One of my favorite bad death scenes goes to this. __________________ Follow My Batman Blog The Midnight \| Endless Summer Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

01-15-2013, 03:16 PM	#108
the last son Side-Kick Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4,644	Re: The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - - - Part 143 All I'm saying is how is someone supposed to die? I didn't know there were rules for death scenes

01-15-2013, 03:39 PM	#113
Kane52630 Animus Vox Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Skynet Posts: 81,640	Re: The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - - - Part 143 Pretty much, it's one of those things that if you nitpick at it too much it leds into "OMG WORST SCREEN DEATH EVER!" __________________ Follow My Batman Blog The Midnight \| Endless Summer Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

01-15-2013, 06:02 PM	#119
BatLobsterRises Lobsterized Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 10,176	Re: The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - - - Part 143 Good thing Heath is so mesmerizing in that scene that none of that matters at all. __________________ My TDKR Metal cover My MOS Trailer 3 score recreation

01-15-2013, 06:06 PM	#120
Tacit Ronin Side-Kick Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New York Posts: 15,770	Re: The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - - - Part 143 Heath's acting only saves that scene on the first or even the second viewing. On the third viewing it started to bother crap out of me. What happened to his other knife? Plus, those knives had some sort of super power to be able to completely and utterly silence anybody who was stabbed by it. No visual or aural cues of struggle whatsoever. __________________ Alan Moore on comics: They've lost a lot of their original innocence, and they can't get that back. And, they're stuck, it seems, in this kind of depressive ghetto of grimness and psychosis. I'm not too proud of being the author of that regrettable trend.

01-15-2013, 06:08 PM	#121
BlueLightning Caballero de la Luz Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,422	Re: The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - - - Part 143 That would be a little dark in an already dark movie. The implied violence works better for me. __________________ A hero can be anyone. Even a man doing something as simple and reassuring as putting a coat around a young boy's shoulders to let him know that the world hadn't ended. "Batman: Promises" - "Harley Quinn: Ridiculous Thoughts" - "Shadow Play: La Broma Mortal"

01-15-2013, 08:16 PM	#122
RustyCage Come what may.. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gotham Posts: 4,049	Re: The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - - - Part 143 Talia's death isn't the best acting I've ever seen, and it's not the worst either. I would accuse the reaction of being dramatic, but that would make me a massive hypocrite. lol The only death that offends (or depresses) me is Bane's. It borders on being overly anti-climactic. Deserved better. __________________ Why do we fall?

01-15-2013, 08:30 PM	#123
Tacit Ronin Side-Kick Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New York Posts: 15,770	Re: The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - - - Part 143 I felt that (with what I assume) an instant death was too merciful for a monster like Bane. I wanted him to die a slow and painful death. __________________ Alan Moore on comics: They've lost a lot of their original innocence, and they can't get that back. And, they're stuck, it seems, in this kind of depressive ghetto of grimness and psychosis. I'm not too proud of being the author of that regrettable trend.

01-15-2013, 10:26 PM	#125
Anno_Domini Banned User Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 17,997	Re: The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - - - Part 143 ^ You didn't sense my sarcasm on my post it seems, lol.

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