All Things Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 23

[ConnorKon-El]

Originally Posted by andresgvasquez

Here is it:

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

PM #1

What I know
by Ybnormal21 on Wed Jan 16 2013 21:05:19

I haven't had a chance to speak to my brother again so I will update this when that happens.

It's 2 hours and 24 mins, the cut he was shown

All his powers are on full display, although no freeze breath was mentioned

Krypton is destroyed

Zod kills jor-el he is not killed in the planets destruction

Lois knows his secret pretty early on in the movie

Kryptonite is not used, but it has been discovered and is being studied

Three main battles take place with the last being in metropolis and a significant amount of the city is destroyed between the gravity ray that zod uses on the city and the final battle with superman and the robot space force

Faora is killed, zod is taken to the prison planet.. Now left for superman to manage (I guess it's where he will take future super villains) that's what's implied in the movie

Lex is mentioned twice but never shown

No cameos from other heroes

Brainiac is mentioned but never shown

Krypton is described as more of a futuristic city.. No ice crystals at all, although he said most of kryptons effects were unfinished

There is a robot army that zod brings to earth. They were with him on the prison vessel and he reprograms them to serve him. They were originally designed to be guards on the prison planet (phantom zone) where zod was being taken.

I believe my brother said there were around 30 or so with one being bigger and stronger than the others.. I guess like the lead robot. When it's destroyed by superman zod takes the armor and designs a suit with it to aid him in battle with superman

That's all I can think of right off the top my head. I'll talk with him tomorrow and get some more info. Thanks for being positive and you can share what you like.

PM #2

A few new details
by Ybnormal21 on Thu Jan 17 2013 12:44:27

I just spoke with my brother for a few mins over the phone. It seems snyder is busy cutting another trailer.. Idk when it will come out.. But that's what their working on at the moment.

He claims Shannon's zod is probably going to end up being one of the greatest movie villains on screen

He says that he's amazingly well written

Shannon gives the best performance of the movie, and he has just as much screen time as Cavill

Cavill looks really good in the suit.. He's a massive presence on screen and he looks like superman st8 out of a comic book

The colors look different on the suit than what we've seen.. I'm not sure if its cgi enhanced or just the lighting, but its a lot brighter and vibrant looking in the actual movie footage

Zod wears a similar suit but basically all black.. He does have a cape when he's first shown wearing his suit, but mostly he's shown without it

The quick shot of superman flying down the building towards zod to do battle is from the final fight scene and there's an epic collision that shatters windows and shakes buildings when that clash

He used the words epic every time he described an action sequence

The movie goes pretty deep into trying to understand how it would go if these aliens just showed up one day out of nowhere

There is definitely a Nolon feel to the movie

The military plays a large role in the movie.. There is experiments going on behind the scenes

Metallo is never mentioned or shown but there is a scene with an injured airforce pilot where they talk about using him for a secret project and the kryptonite is mentioned, although never referred to as such, it's called the meteorite

PM #3

This what I got so far
by Ybnormal21 on Thu Jan 17 2013 16:12:53

I had a conversation with him just now and I tried to get all your questions answered.

The budget was initially 185 million but later increased to 215 after Snyder showed higher ups his quick story boards ideas of some of the action sequences he had planned for the film. It was later increased to 235 million to account for extra cgi cost and the added 3D.

The movie is more massive than you can imagine with huge sets built and amazingly shot action sequences. Snyder makes great use of every penny in the budget. The only thing he can compare this to is the action in the avengers, although he claims this is better shot and feels more real.

The original script only had 2 main battles the third was added by Snyder himself.

Jonathan kent dies, Clark is fully grown at the time, but not yet superman.

Zod does not kill Jonathan, although in the original script he did. Zod does kill several military personal and civilians in the movie. The loss of life gravely effects superman.

The robots, except for the main guard, are disposed of very easily.. If your expecting a huge scene with Sm fighting all these robots you will not get it. Their all taken care of at one time and very easily using his heat vision.

He is called superman in the movie but not at first, he's called the alien originally. Lois is the first to call him superman and the name catches on.

He learns of his origins in different ways. Jonathan is the first to tell him where he came from after his powers start to show up. After discovering his hidden ship Jonathan tells him more about his origins and gives him the key that was found with it. Clark also triggers a hologram message from Jor-el using the key that explains details about his home world.

Later in the film after Clark opens up the fortress he talks with another hologram of jor-el and discovers the suit and how it works and the source of his powers on earth.

Faora is killed by Zod.

The prison planet is an actual planet. It's smaller though and described as something like a moon to another planet, although very far away from krypton itself.

A scientific explanation is given for all supermans powers and it grounds this movie and makes it feel even more real, or as real as a movie about a super powered alien can be.

There's a huge twist at the end of the movie that I'm trying to get out of him now. Will update you later.

lastly the suit will be nano tech like the new 52 comics

^Everything this YB guy has said so far.

[Zorex]

Diggin' it.

[X Knight]

just read the info............

[Showtime]

I thought the trailer description sounded fishy and that turned out to be real. Most of the info is just talking about generics ie "movie will be good", "Zod is evil." We'll see. Something to talk about though, which is great.

[Simo]

So then regarding the info and ending...

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

if no other heroes make a cameo what could be the big twist/surprise at the end? Darkseid?

[X Knight]

Originally Posted by Simo

So then regarding the info and ending...

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

if no other heroes make a cameo what could be the big twist/surprise at the end? Darkseid?

I'm curious about that, too. assuming the info is true, of course.

[Smallville13]

The only thing I'm really not sure how I feel about is:

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

Michael Shannon getting just as much screentime as Henry Cavill

[Zorex]

Originally Posted by Showtime

I thought the trailer description sounded fishy and that turned out to be real. Most of the info is just talking about generics ie "movie will be good", "Zod is evil." We'll see. Something to talk about though, which is great.

Both points definitely worth remembering. I know I wrote off the trailer description as more-than-likely false, and I was wrong. While there's some fun stuff in these posts, there's also a lot of fan-wank material that could very well be the equivalent of comic-based fanfic.

[Lencho01]

Originally Posted by Simo

So then regarding the info and ending...

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

if no other heroes make a cameo what could be the big twist/surprise at the end? Darkseid?

I think it'll be that...

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

All the events take place in a film being watched by people on Earth Q.

[LibidoLoca]

Originally Posted by X Knight

just read the info............

Right-click. Saved.

[Joss Whedon]

Oh goodie.

[sup101]

Originally Posted by Smallville13

The only thing I'm really not sure how I feel about is:

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

Michael Shannon getting just as much screentime as Henry Cavill

Between krypton and earth I would imagine he would.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Where's Picard when you need him?

[Showtime]

Originally Posted by Zorex

Both points definitely worth remembering. I know I wrote off the trailer description as more-than-likely false, and I was wrong. While there's some fun stuff in these posts, there's also a lot of fan-wank material that could very well be the equivalent of comic-based fanfic.

Absolutely. Back in my rookie days I would have come out and said, FAKE! but who knows?

[X Knight]

Originally Posted by Zorex

Both points definitely worth remembering. I know I wrote off the trailer description as more-than-likely false, and I was wrong. While there's some fun stuff in these posts, there's also a lot of fan-wank material that could very well be the equivalent of comic-based fanfic.

I admit, I dismissed the trailer info as fake, too. so I'm hoping that at least some of this new info is real.

[X Knight]

Originally Posted by LibidoLoca

Right-click. Saved.

I didn't create it........just so you know........lol

but you can never go wrong with a little Tangled.

[Smallville13]

Originally Posted by sup101

Between krypton and earth I would imagine he would.

Yes but is that right though? This is Cavills movie.

[andresgvasquez]

Originally Posted by Smallville13

Yes but is that right though? This is Cavills movie.

The Dark Knight was Batman's movie, but Heath Ledger's great starring almost stole the limelight of Batman. I think that's what he means

[sup101]

Originally Posted by Smallville13

Yes but is that right though? This is Cavills movie.

I don't know, I don't think it was on purpose.As long as it's good, I don't care who get the most screen time

[batman44]

I'm not going to say it's fake, though some stuff sounds a bit too ambiguous and obvious. If true, I like a lot of what I read.

[X Knight]

a hero is as good as his villain.

[TDK elbowstrike]

Originally Posted by Smallville13

The only thing I'm really not sure how I feel about is:

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

Michael Shannon getting just as much screentime as Henry Cavill

It may be because of

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

His scenes with Jor-el and the fact that the last battle is probably going to take up a solid chunk of screentime. Might not be so bad but its not something I would have ever expected to hear

The thing that totally blows my freakin mind is

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

Zod kills Faora!! WTF?!! Mind blown...

[andresgvasquez]

Another user published some "Krypton spoilers", but this does seems completely fake

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

The movie starts with a battle on Krypton between Krypton’s armed forces and soldiers loyal to Zod.

Zod is holding members of the Science Council hostage, ordering them to find proof of Krypton’s impending doom.

Jor-El, a member of the Science Council that wasn’t captured tells the leader of the armed forces that he will attempt to talk to Zod.

Jor-El and Zod talk in private, but it becomes clear that Zod won’t listen to reason, so he and Jor-el begin to fight.

Jor-El is hopelessly outmatched but he keeps Zod busy long enough for the armed forces to enter the building and take capture Zod’s crew and then Zod. Faora, Zod’s second in command escapes.

Zod pleads with Jor-El to find proof that Krypton is in danger which he later does. He tells the leaders of Krypton that the Coluan did something to Krypton’s core and that the planet has to be evacuated.

The Council dismiss him and sentence Zod to imprisonment in the Black Zone. They warn Jor-El not to do anything rash, as civilian space travel is banned on Krypton.

Jor-El doesn’t listen and begins making a spaceship in secret. It is completed on the day that Zod is to be imprisoned in the Black Zone.

Faora stages a prison break and stages an escape with Zod and his military group, Black Zero. Their plan is to get on the Black Zero spaceship and leave Krypton. Only Zod and Faora make it to the ship alive.

Just before the ship leaves Krypton, the leaders order that Zod is stopped at any cost and the whole ship is sent to the Black Zone.

While this is happening, Jor-El and Lara say goodbye to Kal-El. They don’t know where he’ll end up or if he’ll even survive but they have no other choice.

The leaders learn what Jor-El has done and order a public hearing with him at once while Lara is placed under house arrest.

Because Zod was not given a public imprisonment, the leaders decide to punish Jor-El in public to make an example out of him.

During his hearing Jor-El lashes out at the leaders, claiming that their arrogance has doomed Krypton.

Before he can be silenced tremors start to occur and everyone begins panicking, but the leaders are adamant that it’s just a ploy by Jor-El and Zod.

They give out orders that no one is allowed to board any vessels and that any attempt to do so will be met by lethal force, but the tremors get worse and people start trying to escape.

Eradicator droids begin gunning down anyone attempting to escape. In all the chaos and confusion Jor-EL manages to send one scout ship to follow his son with just one message.

When the leaders realize that they were wrong, they try to shut down Eradicator droids but they don’t obey. Instead they go on a rampage.

The droids enter Jor-El’s home and kills the Kryptonian officer that was with Lara.

Jor-El tries to reach Lara before Krypton is completely gone but the planet explodes just before he reaches her and before the droid can kill her.

Jor-El and Lara die separately.

[sup101]

The thing that totally blows my freakin mind is

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

Zod kills Faora!! WTF?!! Mind blown...

Yea that's crazy, I wonder how he do it and why.

[Lencho01]

Originally Posted by sup101

The thing that totally blows my freakin mind is

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

Zod kills Faora!! WTF?!! Mind blown...

Yea that's crazy, I wonder how he do it and why.

If true, maybe...

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

He was angry with her or didn't fine her of any use anymore. Zod killed Faora on Smallville.