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Re: The IRON MAN 3 News & Speculation Thread - Part 5
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Lol no. The Other is the only Other version of Kang we'll see because Kang killed off all the other doubles during his time travel and this one became the body of the being known as Chthon accidentally during the dawn of time. Who represents aspects of black magic and the dark matter side of physical existence. He accidentally became Mandarin's ancestor but this wouldn't be revealed until it's revealed he has been shepherding the timeline like Beyonder, and was running across time from beings from beyond time that want to see the universe destroyed. Would very much like to see Thanos do that.
He travels time too and looks for powerful leaders, kings, conquerors and Titans, as well other powerful entities to try to aid his cause which is the destruction of all matter... he's anti-matter, dark matter, spaces in between connected to the dark world, dark magic, and prophecy. basically he looks for powerful villains to make more villainous. When he speaks to Loki on the astral plane that is going on within Yggdrasil, through the roots of the world tree. On the inside. Within Loki's mind. The Other version of him influences people from any time period, any space, and dragged Loki out of that black hole... and returned him to the universe, forcing him to serve a being he had never met from very far away. The "space" scene where Loki talks to the Other is actually going on within Loki's head which is why it looks like his head hurts after, and The Other is very powerful ancient being who can only work through people or with people... In theory it could possess a weaker mind, but can only interface with stronger minds and meet them on astral planes, one of Chthons abilities the Other gained when it travelled to the dawn of time and fractured Kang. Which caused a split in the realm of black magic and alerts Strange and Ian Mcnee. And Thanos may not be a main villain in Avengers 2. And in GoTG more of an anti-hero working against the church of universal truth for half of GoTG before he betrays the team, and they find out he was using them to eliminate Magus when Warlock returns from a time pocket. Thanos will most likely still be a part of phase 3. This is what Feige had to say, I'm jumping ahead too much--the key would be everything, many of the subplots, culminating in phase 3, and many things not being revealed until things culminate in later films. "Part of a bigger world, they just don't know it yet" and may not find out about things, although many things will be planted along the way: “There’s a great track record now about lobbing something in at the last moment to get the audience buzzing[...] Particularly when it came to Thanos, [we knew] that most people in that audience had no idea who that purple guy was — but they could clearly tell he was important, and knew if they asked the two or three people sitting next to them, somebody would know who he was. Last edited by LokiDionysos; 01-18-2013 at 06:57 PM. Reason: to add |
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Like I was saying over the messages there's things in place that could go either way. Some of it depends on Thanos's reception as a character and if people want more of the space stuff. It could be dealt with and done in Avengers 2. Or Thanos becomes a much bigger threat and continues in the movies...
So I keep bringing up the time travel but it's probably a less likely scenario and covering up for me not wanting to reveal plans about Thanos that I'm not allowed to say. Even over private I won't really talk about the gauntlet, and try to get away from that but I'll mention it because it's already been shown at comic con and we all know of its existence. factoring that into everything else would be too much, suffice to say it's time travel that puts the gauntlet in Nebula's hand so this might make that happen in a less deus ex machina way of doing some things by introducing it well before. Thanos could kill a lot of people... and Immortus can't do anything at first because time-travel will be in play--however Immortus lost the ability to travel time. All of his traveling was done between the past, far future, and with Magus/Korvak. It's in play but it's now a mcguffin that could be used against Thanos, but only if he gets the Gauntlet and can cause an untold amount of destruction before this... So I'm kind of saying everything could be building to something massive, and strongly hinting at what I "think" will happen with Thanos. Speculating other parts of much larger puzzle. Why ultron could be seen as the main villain in Avengers 2, or that the masters might even show up before we see anyone except Ultron/vision's network take on Thanos.. although there could still be some connections to whatever is going on with Thanos I wouldn't count too much on Thanos being the major physical threat in Avengers 2. There could be a chance they hold off on Thanos getting directly involved and there might be a chance Ultron will be in Avengers 2 whichever way they go. Last edited by LokiDionysos; 01-18-2013 at 07:41 PM. |
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I'm not going to shoot down your theories, LokiD.....they're "believable" enough in a comic book setting, but I just don't see the film universe getting that intricate and byzantine. After all, this needs to be a movie franchise that little kids can understand, as well as folks with no real background in comics at all. Throwing Kang and time travel into the mix ALWAYS muddles things up, even in the comics; in the MCU, alternate timelines and multiple personae and the like can quickly become unmanageable.
As for Thanos, I really don't see any way at all that Marvel would keep him in the background for the entirety of Phase II and wait at least three more years before paying off the tease from a 2012 movie. People want to know who the hell The Big Purple Guy is, and why he's supposed to be so scary, and what his role in the MCU is going to be. If they spend the next 4-5 movies just cameo-teasing him, general audiences are going to get tired of him and frankly bored with it all. Thanos will definitely be front and center in Phase II. Starlin has already said specifically that he'll be in GOTG and Avengers 2, and I have no doubt that Thor TDW simply *can't* get around his big-ass purple frame, since he is the direct reason that events have come to a head at the start of the Thor sequel.
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If the things LokiD speculates don't happen can someone please make that movie/ tv series? I'd love to watch it haha.
Regardless of what happens over the course of Phase 2 I'm going to be happy. I can't think of any scenario that would make me less interested in any of the movies. |
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OH god here we go again more essays, that lead to nothing.
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don' t worry. only few weeks until the super bowl and a new trailer which will stop this nonsense fan fics for a while
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Hopefully.
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Its a cylce, from the first theatrical trailer to superbowl there the drought period for info so speculation is the only thing left....
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Jesus, I avoid this thread for 2 weeks, come back and it's the same ridiculous crap.
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ohh guys lol. He's just having some fun discussing and making some REALLY obscure speculations based on the character plans he CLAIMS to know. He's flat out said all this stuff is just speculation on his part, he's not claiming it to be true. However, even that is still too much for ironman speculation.
LokiD, this is the Ironman 3 thread, so if you are going to speculate like this, you should really try to keep it just to the Ironman 3 things. And put all this stuff regarding the other, thanos, IG, etc in the avengers sequels forum.
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There should be an MCU thread, I remember making one a while back
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I don't understand why people in the "news and speculation" thread are getting all butthurt because one person is actually speculating while you guys are doing nothing? At least he's having a little fun and trying to piece together the things he knows in a reasonably interesting way, even if you don't believe him, his posts are still good reads. |
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Re: The IRON MAN 3 News & Speculation Thread - Part 5
you'd think hollywood would be steering clear of cinema-related violence in movies.
ps. this is cynical of me but i hope all this china focus is for the good of the story and not to just boost foreign market share in marvel's biggest movie franchise after the avengers... |
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I really don't think that has anything to do with it
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it probably has something to do with it lol. china has a big population so there is a big opportunity there.
ps. i wonder how much of the script is shane black's as opposed to drew pearce's.. hmm. |
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There is no evidence to support the idea that a Chinese audience will see a movie because part of it is set in China and Marvel most definitely wouldn't sacrifice story to crowbar in a reference for ONE country. That's not cynical thinking, just ignorance. Not being hostile here either, just blunt.
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All good, im not saying it will be shoehorned in, just that there is likely an added bonus of having the china-focus in there. no reason that they can't have their cake and eat it too. as for lack of evidence, this might be a pilot study of sorts for marvel. i guess the numbers will speak for themselves either way when it comes out in asian markets.
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