The True Tony Stark

[jonathancrane]

I enjoy RDJ as Tony Stark. I do not want Marvel to start grittying up their characters for the sake of doing so: leave them as they are. I do not want Tony Stark via Frank Miller.

Originally Posted by ironmaidenrules

lol yes...but they all went.even cap and he is super serious lol

Getting food after doing stuff that uses energy is pretty normal. Besides stark wouldn't want people to know how much it affected him. I think during iron man 3 after he loses Pepper and his house explodes he will be very serious

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[kewlmatto]

I think RDJ was great as Tony in the first film and The Avengers.

In Iron Man 2 he just became too unlikeable. Almost everything was a crass joke and he became more that just egotistical, he became a fairly terrible character.

I know that was intended as a part of the story, but they pushed it too far. I really disliked Stark for the entirety of the film. He was churlish and childish rather than just sarcastic.

Avengers fixed this a bit, I hope Iron Man 3 gives the character a bit more balance.

[ironmaidenrules]

Originally Posted by jonathancrane

I enjoy RDJ as Tony Stark. I do not want Marvel to start grittying up their characters for the sake of doing so: leave them as they are. I do not want Tony Stark via Frank Miller.



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don't worry.no spoilers. Just stuff I think will happen or will be cool to see.

[spideymouse]

Originally Posted by ironmaidenrules

don't worry.no spoilers. Just stuff I think will happen or will be cool to see.

Well, Ben Kingsley playing Mandarin was confirmed. When Iron Man meets his match in the Mandarin, when he is pushed to his limits, he'll be certainly forced to take things incredibly seriously (and then kick some serious ass). I can't wait. =)

They say your archnemesis helps to define you. I'm eager to see how the Mandarin can help bring out "the True Tony Stark."

[Steve Holt]

I know i'll be in the minority here, but i'm becoming slightly annoyed by RDJ's schtick

[ThePowerCosmic]

[Doc Samson]

It's strange, when I first heard RDJ was playing Stark, I knew it was going to work. At the same time, I knew it would be how it is, with RDJ basically playing himself instead of Stark from the comics.

I think this goes pretty much for the whole MCU, but the majority of the portrayals are a bit lighter than the comics I read growing up. Stark in particular was a jerk, and not in the RDJ idiosyncratic, cool-nerd vibe, he was just a complete a**hole.

However for the movies, I think Robert injecting a lot of his actual personality (the staccato way he speaks for instance) makes the character pop a little more on screen then he might otherwise. I knew for sure the inherent "coolness" of the suit would draw people to the franchise, if they handled it right. But getting RDJ and allowing him to, essentially, be him, has drawn the public to the man outside of the armor. And making that guy interesting (or any civilian alter-ego for that matter) trumps just about anything else in making a superhero movie work.

[Gold Samurai]

So I thought i'd bump this thread because of the new trailer.

There's certainly alot to talk about with Tony being shaken by the events in New York in "The Avengers"

He was nearly killed a few times in "The Avengers"

-Thrown out of a window
-Going into space on low power
-Nearly chopped up by the helicarriers turbine blades

He was so sure that he wouldn't make it back from delivering the nuke he tried to call Pepper.

Plus the overwhelming invasion of New York. Things like that would shake anyone. Stark probably hide it from the public.

[747]

For all the hate around SHH when it comes to changing source-material or not being faithful enough, this one sure often gets a freebie.

As a more open-mind I don't care though and I think movie universe Stark is more interesting than his comic counterpart in many ways. I'm all for trying new things, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But change per se isn't an enemy.

[Polux]

Originally Posted by Doc Samson

It's strange, when I first heard RDJ was playing Stark, I knew it was going to work. At the same time, I knew it would be how it is, with RDJ basically playing himself instead of Stark from the comics.

I think this goes pretty much for the whole MCU, but the majority of the portrayals are a bit lighter than the comics I read growing up. Stark in particular was a jerk, and not in the RDJ idiosyncratic, cool-nerd vibe, he was just a complete a**hole.

However for the movies, I think Robert injecting a lot of his actual personality (the staccato way he speaks for instance) makes the character pop a little more on screen then he might otherwise. I knew for sure the inherent "coolness" of the suit would draw people to the franchise, if they handled it right. But getting RDJ and allowing him to, essentially, be him, has drawn the public to the man outside of the armor. And making that guy interesting (or any civilian alter-ego for that matter) trumps just about anything else in making a superhero movie work.

Completely agree; before the movies, I had no interest in Stark, he was just an unlikeable douche IMHO; RDJ turned him into my second favorite hero.


Polux

[Sun_Down]

Originally Posted by 747

For all the hate around SHH when it comes to changing source-material or not being faithful enough, this one sure often gets a freebie.

As a more open-mind I don't care though and I think movie universe Stark is more interesting than his comic counterpart in many ways. I'm all for trying new things, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But change per se isn't an enemy.

Very good point. RDJ as Stark is entertaining and compelling. No reason to "serious him up" just to jibe with one interpretation of the character.

[Hawkingbird]

He might become as serious as he was post-Civil War.

[Tony Stark]

Originally Posted by MyNameisAsh525

I always imagined Stark as a serious type. I remember the 90's cartoon...and from there I adapted the personality when I read the comics. Now that Downey took over at Stark in the films, it changed. Now he's a huge ham. He hams it up! I like it....yet, did he reinvent Stark? or was Stark always intended to be the way Downey portrays him? OR is this the Ultimate version of Stark? Being a student in engineering myself, I find myself to be a more serious type like the Stark of cartoon syndication of the 90's.....yet, Downey.....he's def not a very serious type in his rendition of Stark. Someone explain.

RDJ, definitely put himself in the roll, but Tony was never deadbeat serious. He was above all things a playboy. You can get a bit of a sense of this from the first Ultimate Aliance game, from some of his one liners.

I also think it's incorrect to say that RDJ is a total ham. He does have some very serious moments that are straight out of the comics. The cave scene is the best example of this.

I do like what RDJ has done with the character, because someone who is that smart would have trouble relating to people. I like how Whedon made a connection between Banner and Tony because they are both geniouses, and how he made part of Steve and Tony's personality struggle that Tony can't relate to people who aren't as smart as he is, with the exception of Pepper.

[Tony Stark]

Originally Posted by Polux

Completely agree; before the movies, I had no interest in Stark, he was just an unlikeable douche IMHO; RDJ turned him into my second favorite hero.


Polux

Part of the problem is some of the idiot writers for Marvel used Tony as a pawn to get a political point across.

Yes I'm looking at you Mark Millar!