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When a reboot or JL film is announced |
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32 | 39.51% |
When we get a poster/stills of the reboot/JL film |
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11 | 13.58% |
The new Trailer(s) |
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20 | 24.69% |
Week of Release |
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18 | 22.22% |
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#401 |
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I agree 1000 % with u guys.
Nolan wont be the only one to achieve that level of emotion and depth but we wont get it for a lonnng time. If i had a house to bet on, i would do it in a heartbeat. Id bet that the next series of films will be enjoyed by Bat fans for being true to the source material. But the formula will be very unoriginal and episodic throughout each sequel. Ill bet anything. Will it become the "Amazing Spider-Man" of the Batman franchise? Liked, thought to be more accurate than past movies at times, but most agree that it's not very original? Maybe. It can surely happen. But even if the reboot is fantastic, i guarantee you the complaints/comparisons will pile up like no other. "It's just a modern take on Burtons visual style. Nothing new here. Good but it feels empty". "It's just a fantastical and more fun/accessible version of the Dark Knight trilogy. Even look at the Riddler. It's trying too hard to be Heath. It has a serious script but not much depth, it's just Nolan gone sci-fi and it falls flat." They'll try to pull off the middle ground between Burton and Nolan. And it could be totally awesome, but it IS following Nolans trilogy. I feel bad for the first movie. |
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I just think the rebooted version needs to be its own thing. Nolan and Burton had very distinctive styles when making their Batman films, so it shouldn't be too hard to stray away from either. If people compare (which they will), then who really cares? Let them do it all they want. What matters is if you enjoy it, and if the film makes enough money to warrant a sequel.
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Honestly, I don't think money would be an issue for a reboot. Look at Batman Begins, look at TAS-M even...they weren't STRONG in that regard, but that's basically what happens with a reboot as it doesn't make a whole lot of cash, but a sequel will basically happen if it gets okay to strong critical acclaim and that's what matters the most, I think, when it comes to a first film.
And you're right...the next guy needs to make a different and distinctive version, but I don't think that'll be too hard to do. Burton tried to make an over-stylized gothic tone while Nolan went with a relatable and hyper-realist tone. Something in the middle to have some realistic aspects while retaining a fantastical element shouldn't be trouble. |
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I am somewhat excited for the reboot, somewhat not, but this so much. With what Nolan put into the trilogy, you honestly have to feel bad for the reboot more than any other reboot series for a CBM. I would say the same thing for TAS-M if Spider-Man 3 was great too.
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Batman Begins wasn't but TASM was. 752 mil worldwide is a very healthy number.
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Thank you, sir.
As long as whoever's next doesn't just carbon copy a formula. Like, "Oh, hey look. Marvel's/Nolan's/Zack Snyder's way successful. Let's do that!"
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I might catch some crap for this from the extremists, but I think the Court of Owls would be really cool for a film. It would roll in the mystery/detective element that I think a lot of us agree has been very sparse in the franchise so far, but also feel fresh and scary too.
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The only way I'd be okay with the Court of Owls is if The Penguin were involved. And The Sparrow. And Magpie.
And Robin. Which is ironic, because the original storyline for Tim Burton's BATMAN 2 was similar to the introductory story for Court of Owls.
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It is a very strong number considering that it not only carried the burden of being a reboot and of being the first Spider-Man movie after Spider-Man 3 but it also came out the same summer as TDKR and The Avengers.
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Exactly. It did extremely well considering those circumstances.
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And man...the latter part of that arc is...controversial, to say the least. |
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I'm waiting on the collected hardback to read it. Suddenly not so optimistic...
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ASM definitely performed a bit better than I expected it to, given the circumstances. I would imagine the Sony was pretty happy with the box office returns.
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There is still a strong junction as to which one is better between the two continuities. I suspect there to be the same between Nolan's installment vs. whatever next live action Batman incarnation comes out, but there will likely be an even stronger skewing in favor of Nolan's Batman.
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That's misleading. TASM had 8 years of ticket price inflation and a big boost overseas from 3D ticket prices. It had a solid performance, but SM2's performance in 2004 was a hell of a lot more impressive given the ticket prices of the time. It will be interesting to see how much TASM2 can expand from TASM1. As long as it isn't sandwiched between another Avengers and TDKR situation, it should be able to increase a decent amount.
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The amount of negative online comments (that get highly upvoted, mind you), spoofs of certain elements online, "Honest Trailers", some crying for a Plinkett review, the fact that the film seems to be forgotten almost, and the fact that I keep seeing the film on "Top 10 Most Disappointing/Worst Sequels" lists sometimes ----
--- I'd say the fanboy backlash has already begun. Can't help but notice these things. Either that or the vocal minority of nay-sayers have taken over the internet comment forums/comment sections/YouTube and are trying to make TDKR seem like a poorly received/disliked and/or crappy sequel. Those that love the film usually just stay quiet and move on, and not stick around defending it. I certainly don't. To me, the Nolan films will always be great and well done. Sure I have my issues, but it doesn't detract much. ![]() Last edited by TheDevilIsMe; 02-05-2013 at 03:54 AM. |
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As for being forgotten already i think Bane was actually trending on twitter last night due to the Superbowl blackout. That football stadium scene has already entered popular culture. Fan-boys often get too caught-up in the web of "comic-accuracy" and to them a more "comic accurate" film automatically makes it better. I feel that has been their only major complaint with regards to the nolan series. To me as a batman fan i'm glad batman has now been associated with such a high-caliber of film making. I think we're going to look at the The Dark Knight trilogy like we do the Godfather trilogy in terms of mob films. There have been great mob films since but few have been able to compare to them as a whole. Last edited by Bruce Malone; 02-05-2013 at 05:47 AM. |
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