The Prequel Trilogy General Discussion and Appreciation Thread - Page 3

Paradox1 · 12-03-2012, 07:26 PM

Here is a bit of news I think you'll get a kick out, I found this IGN. ....lol

Is Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith a Work of Art?

Famed art critic calls Episode III the greatest artwork in 30 years.

by Max Nicholson
November 29, 2012

In her new book called Glittering Images, renowned art critic Camille Paglia analyzes 29 works throughout art history. In the book's final chapter, she makes a rather bold claim in support of George Lucas's Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith, calling it the greatest work of art in recent memory.
In an interview with Vice, Paglia was asked why she felt this particular film stood out among other artworks from artists like Matthew Barney, Rachel Whiteread, Chris Ware or Peter Doig. In reply, Paglia explained, "The long finale of Revenge of the Sith has more inherent artistic value, emotional power, and global impact than anything by the artists you name. It's because the art world has flat-lined and become an echo chamber of received opinion and toxic over-praise. It's like the emperor's new clothes -- people are too intimidated to admit what they secretly think or what they might think with their blinders off."

Indeed, Paglia continues, Episode III epitomizes the modern digital art movement, more so than other piece from the last 30 years. "I had considered using Japanese anime for the digital art chapter of the book, but it lacked the overwhelming operatic power and yes, seriousness of Lucas's Revenge of the Sith." An interesting choice to represent the emotional and visual power of modern cinema, no?
Do you agree with Paglia that ROTS is our generation's greatest work of art? Or does another film strike your fancy for the title? Let us know what you think in the Comments.

and here is an official link http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/11/...-a-work-of-art

Gianakin_ · 12-04-2012, 06:40 AM

I love this Paglia guy.

Bim · 12-04-2012, 12:42 PM

Well that was refreshing

CoolCadaver49 · 12-04-2012, 10:52 PM

Well, that's certainly an interesting take on things... Can't say that I agree with any of it though.

Bim, I love, and have always loved your avatar. What's it from?

Bim · 12-05-2012, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CoolCadaver49

Bim, I love, and have always loved your avatar. What's it from?

Thanks! I've no idea where it's from though, since it was Hunter that sent it my way

CGHulk · 01-02-2013, 02:50 AM

Paradox1 · 01-02-2013, 04:30 AM

Wow never appreciated how good Natalie portman looks in that costume. An ass like that would make me turn to the darkside too.

Doc Ock · 01-02-2013, 02:51 PM

Lol! I do think most of the characters looked their best in AOTC, particularly Anakin and Padme. Although Obi looks awesome in all the films

BenKenobi · 01-02-2013, 10:21 PM

One thing I really liked was the ending of Revenge of the Sith. The atmosphere, the lighting everything felt like classic Star Wars. The Star Destroyer deck especially was one of the coolest things I've ever seen. It's not secret I'm not as thrilled over these movies as I was when I was younger but I still think the ending of Sith was great.

CGHulk · 01-02-2013, 11:10 PM

DaltonSpidey94 · 01-08-2013, 04:32 AM

I love the prequels and I like both Revenge of the Sith and The Phantom Menace better than the original trilogy.

Also . . . I love Jar Jar Binks. Yep.

AVEITWITHJAMON · 01-23-2013, 10:25 AM

Watched The Phantom Menace today for the first time in what must be 10 years (finally got all the SW films on BD), and it was much better than I remember. There are still some amazingly cringey things in it like "YIPPEE," Jar Jar and some others, but overall I enjoyed it much more than I used too.

Qui-Gon and Darth Maul were awesome, Natalie was a potential hotty along with Keira Knightley in her small role (and we all know they ended up being those hottys now), plus Ewan was awesome as Obi-Wan. Replacing the puppett Yoda with a CGI one was much smoother than I was expecting as well. Consdering I always thought TPM the worst of the series, I cant wait to watch the other prequels again now.

Bim · 01-23-2013, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AVEITWITHJAMON

Consdering I always thought TPM the worst of the series, I cant wait to watch the other prequels again now.

I thought ROTS in particular was a real treat to watch in blu-ray. I keep noticing things i hadnt before every time i watch.

I also loved CGI Yoda in TPM. The puppet always looked so strange to me lol, i guess i blame the fact that i had only seen the OT and was comparing his looks to that.

AVEITWITHJAMON · 01-23-2013, 08:14 PM

^Just watched AOTC earlier as well, that was great to watch on BD, though some of the poorer effects show up, the bits were the CGI was spot on were indeed a treat. Again though AOTC was also better than I remember it, looking forward to watching ROTS.

Yeah CGI Yoda just flowed more naturally for me, the puppet in TPM always looked like exactly what he was, a puppet. This wasnt the case in ESB or ROTJ were the puppet worked well.

Gianakin_ · 01-24-2013, 02:52 AM

AotC took the biggest hit in BR format, its CGI are REALLY dated. TPM is saved by the many real sets and RotS' CGI is mindblowing and still look real.

Puppet Yoda was puss, so glad they used RotS' Yoda to replace it.

Bim · 01-24-2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AVEITWITHJAMON

^Just watched AOTC earlier as well, that was great to watch on BD, though some of the poorer effects show up, the bits were the CGI was spot on were indeed a treat. Again though AOTC was also better than I remember it, looking forward to watching ROTS.

Yeah CGI Yoda just flowed more naturally for me, the puppet in TPM always looked like exactly what he was, a puppet. This wasnt the case in ESB or ROTJ were the puppet worked well.

Yeah, i find that out of the prequels AOTC is the one that hasnt aged as well in some parts (like the robot factory bit; it's one of the things about the movie that i dont like much cause it feels unnecesary), especially when compared to the other two. Nice to see the movies have been better than what u remembered though

Enjoy ROTS. I'll say it again: seeing it in blu-ray is a whole new experience.

I just think that TPM puppet contrasted way too much with what we had seen of Yoda in the OT. Something just felt off, and i cant quite tell u what it was.

Gianakin_ · 01-25-2013, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bim

Yeah, i find that out of the prequels AOTC is the one that hasnt aged as well in some parts (like the robot factory bit; it's one of the things about the movie that i dont like much cause it feels unnecesary)

Didn't help that it was written, designed and shot last minute.

Bim · 01-25-2013, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Gianakin_

Didn't help that it was written, designed and shot last minute.

Yeah, something i wish they hadnt done. I'm one who loved humor, but some of that stuff was just too much for me. 3PO always annoyed me somewhat and that sequence made it worse lol.

Doc Ock · 01-25-2013, 01:39 PM

I don't care what anyone says, AOTC is my favorite of the Prequels.

Young Superman · 01-27-2013, 10:13 PM

People really bash the prequel trilogy too much. It's not as good as the original trilogy, but it still has some cool moments.

Gianakin_ · 01-28-2013, 03:00 AM

Many many more than some, imo.

TheIrishAvenger · 01-28-2013, 03:56 PM

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EXCLUSIVE: No More ‘Star Wars’ 3D Prequel Releases; Lucasfilm Passes To Focus On New Trilogy

"I learned of this decision just now from Lucasfilm‘s promotional partners who are telling me the studio now owned by Disney wants to focus only on “rebooting the franchise” with three new Star Wars films. This surprising decision follows the underwhelming box office performance of Episode I: The Phantom Menace re-released in 3D in February 2012. It debuted to only $23M domestically but maybe even more importantly hardcore fans felt it was yet another craven cash grab by George Lucas. Back in September 2010, Lucasfilm and then-distributor Fox announced that all 6 films in the Star Wars franchise would be converted to 3D. Episode II: Attack Of The Clones (first released on May 16, 2002) was to hit theaters in 3D on September 20th, 2013, while Episode III: Revenge Of The Sith (first released on May 19, 2005) was to play in 3D on October 11, 2013. This news comes just days after Disney confirmed that J.J. Abrams will direct the new Star Wars: Episode VII scheduled to be released in 2015. It’s the first new Star Wars movie since 2005. Michael Arndt is writing the script. Disney bought Lucasfilm in October 2012 for $4 billion, with the Star Wars franchise obviously the jewel in the crown. At the time, Disney CEO Bob Iger said three more Star Wars films were in the pipeline."

http://www.deadline.com/2013/01/excl...n-new-trilogy/

Bim · 01-28-2013, 05:36 PM

I'm sad

MistaBinks · 01-28-2013, 05:52 PM

Interesting that SW.com said postponed instead of canceled.

I'm curious why many of the media outlets claim that TPM 3D underperformed. How much was it supposed to make? It was a 1999 film that was just released on Blu Ray a few months prior that many people already owned on DVD and VHS. Was it supposed it gross 100 million domestically?

Marvolo · 01-29-2013, 12:00 AM

Terrence Stamp, who played Chancellor Valorum in STAR WARS: EPISODE I- THE PHANTOM MENACE, recently spoke with Empire about his experience working with George Lucas.

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"We didn't get on at all. I didn't rate him that much as a director, really. I didn't feel like he was a director of actors; he was more interested in stuff and effects. He didn't interest me and I wouldn't think I interested him. I came all the way back from Australia to do it. I didn't want to but my agent leaned on me and I wanted to meet Natalie Portman because I'd seen her in The Professional. And I did meet her and she was absolutely enchanting. But on the day I'm supposed to do my scene with her, for which I'd travelled halfway around the world, I said, 'Where's Natalie?' And George says, 'That's Natalie,' and points to a bit of paper on the wall. It was just boring."

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/tere...f-george-lucas

12-03-2012, 07:26 PM	#51
Paradox1 Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fl Posts: 3,160	Re: The Prequel Trilogy General Discussion and Appreciation Thread Here is a bit of news I think you'll get a kick out, I found this IGN. ....lol Is Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith a Work of Art? Famed art critic calls Episode III the greatest artwork in 30 years. by Max Nicholson November 29, 2012 In her new book called Glittering Images, renowned art critic Camille Paglia analyzes 29 works throughout art history. In the book's final chapter, she makes a rather bold claim in support of George Lucas's Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith, calling it the greatest work of art in recent memory. In an interview with Vice, Paglia was asked why she felt this particular film stood out among other artworks from artists like Matthew Barney, Rachel Whiteread, Chris Ware or Peter Doig. In reply, Paglia explained, "The long finale of Revenge of the Sith has more inherent artistic value, emotional power, and global impact than anything by the artists you name. It's because the art world has flat-lined and become an echo chamber of received opinion and toxic over-praise. It's like the emperor's new clothes -- people are too intimidated to admit what they secretly think or what they might think with their blinders off." Indeed, Paglia continues, Episode III epitomizes the modern digital art movement, more so than other piece from the last 30 years. "I had considered using Japanese anime for the digital art chapter of the book, but it lacked the overwhelming operatic power and yes, seriousness of Lucas's Revenge of the Sith." An interesting choice to represent the emotional and visual power of modern cinema, no? Do you agree with Paglia that ROTS is our generation's greatest work of art? Or does another film strike your fancy for the title? Let us know what you think in the Comments. and here is an official link http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/11/...-a-work-of-art __________________ "Wars are never won, regardless of who might be the victor. The very act of war is itself a horrible defeat." Guardian of the Universe "Battleground: Oa!" Green Lantern, 1st Silver Age series, #127, Denny O'Neil)

12-04-2012, 06:40 AM	#52
Gianakin_ SW Prequels Defender Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 19,194	Re: The Prequel Trilogy General Discussion and Appreciation Thread I love this Paglia guy. __________________ Official Joss Whedon hater after his thoughts on Empire Strikes Back and Temple of Doom Proud "Ben Affleck will do more than star in B/S" conspiracy theorist *Avvy by Kane52630*

12-04-2012, 12:42 PM	#53
Bim Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 7,280	Re: The Prequel Trilogy General Discussion and Appreciation Thread Well that was refreshing __________________ *“There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.” Goethe* If Jack Bauer joined the Rebel Alliance, 24 hours later there would be no Empire :p

12-04-2012, 10:52 PM	#54
CoolCadaver49 Not a Hero... Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 416	Re: The Prequel Trilogy General Discussion and Appreciation Thread Well, that's certainly an interesting take on things... Can't say that I agree with any of it though. Bim, I love, and have always loved your avatar. What's it from?

01-02-2013, 02:50 AM	#56
CGHulk Green Guy Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,647	Re: The Prequel Trilogy General Discussion and Appreciation Thread __________________ "Great spirits have always experienced violent opposition from mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein "All that was great in the past, was ridiculed, condemned, combatted, suppressed." -Nikola Tesla “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.” – Margaret Mead Last edited by CGHulk; 01-02-2013 at 02:57 AM.

01-02-2013, 04:30 AM	#57
Paradox1 Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fl Posts: 3,160	Re: The Prequel Trilogy General Discussion and Appreciation Thread Wow never appreciated how good Natalie portman looks in that costume. An ass like that would make me turn to the darkside too. __________________ "Wars are never won, regardless of who might be the victor. The very act of war is itself a horrible defeat." Guardian of the Universe "Battleground: Oa!" Green Lantern, 1st Silver Age series, #127, Denny O'Neil)

01-02-2013, 02:51 PM	#58
Doc Ock The Desolation of Spidey Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Oklahoma, US Posts: 6,324	Re: The Prequel Trilogy General Discussion and Appreciation Thread Lol! I do think most of the characters looked their best in AOTC, particularly Anakin and Padme. Although Obi looks awesome in all the films __________________ Iron Man 3 - 8.5/10 \| Man of Steel -7/10 \| The Wolverine -?? \| Thor: The Dark World - 8.5/10 Superhero & Comic Book fan in general! Its hard to choose! Favorite Superheroes: Hulk\|Spider-Man\|Superman\|Hellboy\|X-Men\|Thor A Member of Raimi's "Spider-Man Trilogy" Fans \| YOU MUST WATCH DOCTOR WHO \| Love Smallville \| I still believe in heroes Marvel Studios.

01-02-2013, 10:21 PM	#59
BenKenobi Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 358	Re: The Prequel Trilogy General Discussion and Appreciation Thread One thing I really liked was the ending of Revenge of the Sith. The atmosphere, the lighting everything felt like classic Star Wars. The Star Destroyer deck especially was one of the coolest things I've ever seen. It's not secret I'm not as thrilled over these movies as I was when I was younger but I still think the ending of Sith was great.

01-02-2013, 11:10 PM	#60
CGHulk Green Guy Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,647	Re: The Prequel Trilogy General Discussion and Appreciation Thread __________________ "Great spirits have always experienced violent opposition from mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein "All that was great in the past, was ridiculed, condemned, combatted, suppressed." -Nikola Tesla “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.” – Margaret Mead Last edited by CGHulk; 01-02-2013 at 11:44 PM.

01-08-2013, 04:32 AM	#61
DaltonSpidey94 Side-Kick Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Niles, OH Posts: 34	Re: The Prequel Trilogy General Discussion and Appreciation Thread I love the prequels and I like both Revenge of the Sith and The Phantom Menace better than the original trilogy. Also . . . I love Jar Jar Binks. Yep.

01-23-2013, 10:25 AM	#62
AVEITWITHJAMON Terminator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 22,857	Re: The Prequel Trilogy General Discussion and Appreciation Thread Watched The Phantom Menace today for the first time in what must be 10 years (finally got all the SW films on BD), and it was much better than I remember. There are still some amazingly cringey things in it like "YIPPEE," Jar Jar and some others, but overall I enjoyed it much more than I used too. Qui-Gon and Darth Maul were awesome, Natalie was a potential hotty along with Keira Knightley in her small role (and we all know they ended up being those hottys now), plus Ewan was awesome as Obi-Wan. Replacing the puppett Yoda with a CGI one was much smoother than I was expecting as well. Consdering I always thought TPM the worst of the series, I cant wait to watch the other prequels again now. __________________ 2013: 1)Gravity-9(2)Django Unchained-9(3)Star Trek Into Darkness-9(4)Man Of Steel-9(5)Pacific Rim-9(6)Wolverine-8.5(7)Iron Man 3-8(8)Elysium-8(9)This is The End-8(10)World War Z-8(11)Evil Dead-8(12)Thor: TDW-8(13)Byzantium-8(14)Despicable Me 2-8(15)Oblivion-8(16)We're The Millers-8(17)Riddick-7.5(18)Last Stand-7.5(19)Kick-Ass 2-7.5(20)2 Guns-7.5(21)Turbo-7.5(22)CWACOM2-7.5(23)Monsters University-7(24)Oz: TGAP-7(25)Jack The GS-7(26)Gangster Squad-7(27)GI:J2-6(28)Planes-6(29)Die Hard 5-5

01-23-2013, 08:14 PM	#64
AVEITWITHJAMON Terminator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 22,857	Re: The Prequel Trilogy General Discussion and Appreciation Thread ^Just watched AOTC earlier as well, that was great to watch on BD, though some of the poorer effects show up, the bits were the CGI was spot on were indeed a treat. Again though AOTC was also better than I remember it, looking forward to watching ROTS. Yeah CGI Yoda just flowed more naturally for me, the puppet in TPM always looked like exactly what he was, a puppet. This wasnt the case in ESB or ROTJ were the puppet worked well. __________________ 2013: 1)Gravity-9(2)Django Unchained-9(3)Star Trek Into Darkness-9(4)Man Of Steel-9(5)Pacific Rim-9(6)Wolverine-8.5(7)Iron Man 3-8(8)Elysium-8(9)This is The End-8(10)World War Z-8(11)Evil Dead-8(12)Thor: TDW-8(13)Byzantium-8(14)Despicable Me 2-8(15)Oblivion-8(16)We're The Millers-8(17)Riddick-7.5(18)Last Stand-7.5(19)Kick-Ass 2-7.5(20)2 Guns-7.5(21)Turbo-7.5(22)CWACOM2-7.5(23)Monsters University-7(24)Oz: TGAP-7(25)Jack The GS-7(26)Gangster Squad-7(27)GI:J2-6(28)Planes-6(29)Die Hard 5-5

01-24-2013, 02:52 AM	#65
Gianakin_ SW Prequels Defender Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 19,194	Re: The Prequel Trilogy General Discussion and Appreciation Thread AotC took the biggest hit in BR format, its CGI are REALLY dated. TPM is saved by the many real sets and RotS' CGI is mindblowing and still look real. Puppet Yoda was puss, so glad they used RotS' Yoda to replace it. __________________ Official Joss Whedon hater after his thoughts on Empire Strikes Back and Temple of Doom Proud "Ben Affleck will do more than star in B/S" conspiracy theorist *Avvy by Kane52630*

01-25-2013, 01:39 PM	#69
Doc Ock The Desolation of Spidey Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Oklahoma, US Posts: 6,324	Re: The Prequel Trilogy General Discussion and Appreciation Thread I don't care what anyone says, AOTC is my favorite of the Prequels. __________________ Iron Man 3 - 8.5/10 \| Man of Steel -7/10 \| The Wolverine -?? \| Thor: The Dark World - 8.5/10 Superhero & Comic Book fan in general! Its hard to choose! Favorite Superheroes: Hulk\|Spider-Man\|Superman\|Hellboy\|X-Men\|Thor A Member of Raimi's "Spider-Man Trilogy" Fans \| YOU MUST WATCH DOCTOR WHO \| Love Smallville \| I still believe in heroes Marvel Studios.

01-27-2013, 10:13 PM	#70
Young Superman The Last Son of Krypton Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6,890	Re: The Prequel Trilogy General Discussion and Appreciation Thread People really bash the prequel trilogy too much. It's not as good as the original trilogy, but it still has some cool moments. __________________ "What if a child dreamed of becoming something other than what society had intended?...What if a child aspired to something greater?..."

01-28-2013, 03:00 AM	#71
Gianakin_ SW Prequels Defender Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 19,194	Re: The Prequel Trilogy General Discussion and Appreciation Thread Many many more than some, imo. __________________ Official Joss Whedon hater after his thoughts on Empire Strikes Back and Temple of Doom Proud "Ben Affleck will do more than star in B/S" conspiracy theorist *Avvy by Kane52630*

01-28-2013, 05:36 PM	#73
Bim Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 7,280	Re: The Prequel Trilogy General Discussion and Appreciation Thread I'm sad __________________ *“There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.” Goethe* If Jack Bauer joined the Rebel Alliance, 24 hours later there would be no Empire :p

01-28-2013, 05:52 PM	#74
MistaBinks Side-Kick Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 78	Re: The Prequel Trilogy General Discussion and Appreciation Thread Interesting that SW.com said postponed instead of canceled. I'm curious why many of the media outlets claim that TPM 3D underperformed. How much was it supposed to make? It was a 1999 film that was just released on Blu Ray a few months prior that many people already owned on DVD and VHS. Was it supposed it gross 100 million domestically?

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