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Old 03-25-2012, 11:32 PM   #726
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Who says that Humans were the first to create the English language? It could be looked at as an assumption on our parts.
There was a cut line in Thor's screenplay that basically confirmed this to be the case (we got our language from the Asgardians).

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Old 03-25-2012, 11:54 PM   #727
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Who says that Humans were the first to create the English language? It could be looked at as an assumption on our parts.
That's stretching it. The origins of most modern languages, especially English, are pretty well documented with very clear roots.

It's a far easier concept to grasp that an alien language is presented in English for the sake of the viewer.

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Old 03-25-2012, 11:56 PM   #728
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That's stretching it. The origins of most modern languages, especially English, are pretty well documented with very clear roots.

It's a far easier concept to grasp that an alien language is presented in English for the sake of the viewer.
I think it's believable, in the context of the "Thor" movie, that the gods did affect human culture, including language, since the movie explains that the gods were here before but humans had forgotten.

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Old 03-26-2012, 12:01 AM   #729
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I think it's believable, in the context of the "Thor" movie, that the gods did affect human culture, including language, since the movie explains that the gods were here before but humans had forgotten.
Forgotten? As in "s--t Jerry, who were the chaps that gave us the language we speak? Where's a pen when you need one?!"

I'm actually quite fascinated with gods/aliens affecting human culture. But it has to be presented in an intriguing way. So I can buy that theory if it were plausible in that they were "disguised" as one of us. Otherwise, if they were openly walking around as the superpowered beings they were, it would have been documented in some form.

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Forgotten? As in "s--t Jerry, who were the chaps that gave us the language we speak? Where's a pen when you need one?!"

I'm actually quite fascinated with gods/aliens affecting human culture. But it has to be presented in an intriguing way. So I can buy that theory if it were plausible in that they were "disguised" as one of us. Otherwise, if they were openly walking around as the superpowered beings they were, it would have been documented in some form.

But in the context of the movie "Thor" (which includes such things as Frost Giants, by the way), humanity has forgotten about the gods entirely. The gods had fallen into myth and legend even after being involved in a war on Earth and being worshipped by humans. So it's feasible in that context that the gods influenced the early English language, since English has influence from many other ancient languages already.

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Old 03-26-2012, 12:58 AM   #731
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There was a cut line in Thor's screenplay that basically confirmed this to be the case (we got our language from the Asgardians).
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I think it's believable, in the context of the "Thor" movie, that the gods did affect human culture, including language, since the movie explains that the gods were here before but humans had forgotten.
Exactly, Thor is what I was thinking of when I said that.

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That's stretching it. The origins of most modern languages, especially English, are pretty well documented with very clear roots.

It's a far easier concept to grasp that an alien language is presented in English for the sake of the viewer.
I disagree, in a movie like this I don't think it's stretching it at all.

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Old 03-26-2012, 06:25 AM   #732
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English is an absorbing language, it's roots are Germanic but a larger percentage of what we speak is derivative of other languages, roughly 30% of it French due to France ruling England for about 300 years, it's also picked up bits and pieces of most other West European languages. It's very much a stretch to say we weren't the first to speak it.


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Old 03-26-2012, 06:52 AM   #733
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Perhaps language, as a vocal form of communicating, might not be human in origin? It's evolved and changed with mankind, but it was initially introduced as a concept by aliens, who were perceived as Gods.

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Old 03-26-2012, 11:20 AM   #734
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Perhaps language, as a vocal form of communicating, might not be human in origin? It's evolved and changed with mankind, but it was initially introduced as a concept by aliens, who were perceived as Gods.
Animals have vocal language. Language is a natural skill for cooperation.

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Old 03-26-2012, 01:02 PM   #735
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:54 AM   #736
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Russell Crowe Talks the ‘Massive’ Scale of ‘Man of Steel’

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Russell Crowe – who plays Superman’s father, Jor-El – talks about the realistic approach and massive scale of Zack Snyder’s ‘Man of Steel.’

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Old 01-28-2013, 05:30 AM   #737
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:34 AM   #738
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Anyone get a Galifrey vibe from this shot?

Even Asgard perhaps.

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Old 01-28-2013, 05:36 AM   #739
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Looks like a cross between LotR and Amidala's palace in The Phantom Menace to me. Which can only be good.

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Old 01-28-2013, 05:45 AM   #740
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Too fantasy for my taste, but it still looks good.

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Anyone get a Galifrey vibe from this shot?

Even Asgard perhaps.
Is that legit? If it does, where it comes from?

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Old 01-28-2013, 05:53 AM   #742
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Is that legit? If it does, where it comes from?
It is. http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=36314

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Old 01-28-2013, 06:17 AM   #743
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Anyone get a Galifrey vibe from this shot?

Even Asgard perhaps.
Dream come true for me. As soon as I saw Thor I hoped Krypton could be half as incredibly well portrayed as that.

Obviously it'll be a little different, but so far it looks incredible

One of things I love most in Thor was the sweeping shots of the lanscape of Asgard... and you just know Snyder's going to kick ass with that

P.S. Crowe looks great

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Old 01-28-2013, 06:18 AM   #744
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These photos of Jor-El & Zod are very interesting. I was especially intrigued by Jor-El's photo, specifically the set which evoked neo-medieval feel. Indeed, I remember an interview by costume designer Michael Wilkinson:

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Old 01-28-2013, 06:20 AM   #745
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Crowe looks badass and the little glimpse of Krypton is amazing. I wouldn't mind a Krypton movie with this cast and look. I hope they don't cut too much out of MOS. Let it be 165 minutes with 30 minutes of Krypton.

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I'm very glad that it looks way less kitsch than Asgard.

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Old 01-28-2013, 06:23 AM   #747
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I'm very glad that it looks way less kitsch than Asgard.
I concur!!

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Jor-El Earth 1: lol


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Russ-El would beat the crap out of Earth 1 Jor-El.

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Too fantasy for my taste, but it still looks good.
Just based on this small peek, Krypton looks beautiful. I'm entirely fine with a sci-fi look here. I think Man of Steel will really convey the tragic and wondrous 'we achieved wonders which will be long forgotten' line which was uttered in Superman 78.

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