Love Interest for Captain America II

[cherokeesam]

Originally Posted by BullMcGiveny

Yeah, I noticed. Which is why I pointed out those three categories; Asian, Black, and in reference to Erskine, German.

My point is that just as Steve would defy convention when it came to race relations, associating with non-white then it is just as possible that he chooses not to be sexually active.

Steve does what he chooses, even when the norm is that he does the opposite.

Being "chaste" and "saving yourself for marriage" *was* the norm in the 1940s (at least on paper). Steve Rogers going all chastity-belt would be defying no conventions whatsoever.

[BullMcGiveny]

Originally Posted by spideymouse

The biggest aspect of his character that they focused on is that he identifies with the underdog, "the little guy," having been one himself. I think that translates well into his ability to relate to and respect women and people of color. Why would he act like a bully after having been bullied his whole life?

You are aware that being on the receiving end of abusive behavior -including bullying- sometimes leads to being the perpetrator of similar behavior, right?

I understand that is his motivation, and I like that about the story.

But it doesn't work that way for everyone.

being a victim of bullying or discrimination != never being a bully or never discriminating against others.

[spideymouse]

Originally Posted by BullMcGiveny

You are aware that being on the receiving end of abusive behavior -including bullying- sometimes leads to being the perpetrator of similar behavior, right?

Also, you're under the impression that I'm arguing that Steve should be racist. I am not.

I am aware. But "sometimes" does not mean all cases. There are cases in which people who have been victims have risen above that abuse and become strong advocates against bullying. Sure, those are celebrated cases that are special and perhaps rare, but it is not unheard of.

Originally Posted by BullMcGiveny

If you're after realism, then there's no way that a white, not-all-that-educated kid from Brooklyn in the forties would have been cool with black or Asian people, or a German person, for that matter.

I'm under the impression that you're arguing that it's unrealistic for Steve not to have been racist. I am disagreeing with you.

[BullMcGiveny]

Originally Posted by cherokeesam

Being "chaste" and "saving yourself for marriage" *was* the norm in the 1940s (at least on paper). Steve Rogers going all chastity-belt would be defying no conventions whatsoever.

Yet you say that if Steve didn't bang someone during the war, it was because he was gay.

[BullMcGiveny]

Originally Posted by spideymouse

I'm under the impression that you're arguing that it's unrealistic for Steve not to have been racist. I am disagreeing with you.

It isn't unrealistic. Correct. But it is atypical.

So Steve is an atypical kind of person, and maybe, as a result, he doesn't sleep with women just because they're throwing themselves at him.

[spideymouse]

Originally Posted by BullMcGiveny

It isn't unrealistic. Correct. But it is atypical.

So Steve is an atypical kind of person, and maybe, as a result, he doesn't sleep with women just because they're throwing themselves at him.

I think we're in agreement that Steve is a character who went against the grain even in his time. I was just checking against you saying that it was "unrealistic" to go against the grain.

[Schlosser85]

Yes, racism was commonplace during the '40s, that doesn't mean every single individual person from the '40s was racist, like Bull's original post suggested.

Also casual sex was much less commonplace (at least openly). Steve "saving himself for marriage" wouldn't have been looked at as unusual at all.

Sure, plenty of soldiers got lots of action, but Steve not sleeping around wouldn't have had people going "must be gay lolz".

[BullMcGiveny]

Originally Posted by spideymouse

I think we're in agreement that Steve is a character who went against the grain even in his time. I was just checking against you saying that it was "unrealistic" to go against the grain.

Yeah, I should have worded it better in my inciting post.

[DarthMuppet]

Getting back on topic...


Alison Brie Isn't 'Opposed' To 'Captain America' Role


http://splashpage.mtv.com/2013/01/28...ptain-america/

[Caboose]

Something tells me she's already got the part.

[Christopher_M]

Originally Posted by Caboose

Something tells me she's already got the part.

nothing confirmed but sounds hopeful not a denial/disinterest from her at least..

[Suzanne78]

Basically, I need her to be cast. Ever since they said she was on the shortlist for Sharon, my brain really won't let anyone else take the part. Although I would've been interested in Winstead in the role. But... Alison Brie in the Marvel Universe is way too much awesome for me (and my husband... for pretty much different reasons).

Brie for everything, pretty much!!

[DarthMuppet]

Originally Posted by Suzanne78

Basically, I need her to be cast. Ever since they said she was on the shortlist for Sharon, my brain really won't let anyone else take the part. Although I would've been interested in Winstead in the role. But... Alison Brie in the Marvel Universe is way too much awesome for me (and my husband... for pretty much different reasons).

Brie for everything, pretty much!!

Agree with everything you said! Also, Brie actually does look like she could be related to Hayley Atwell. She also has the... um... assets required for the role.

[Christopher_M]

Originally Posted by Suzanne78

Basically, I need her to be cast. Ever since they said she was on the shortlist for Sharon, my brain really won't let anyone else take the part. Although I would've been interested in Winstead in the role. But... Alison Brie in the Marvel Universe is way too much awesome for me (and my husband... for pretty much different reasons).

Brie for everything, pretty much!!

she does look like Atwell and pulled off a British accent in Five-Year Engagment.. if they're going to make Sharon British which was a rumor hence a bevy of British actresses being linked.. perhaps a rap-battle with Anthony Mackie ala 8 Mile is in the cards hehe

VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

[cherokeesam]

Originally Posted by Schlosser85

Yes, racism was commonplace during the '40s, that doesn't mean every single individual person from the '40s was racist, like Bull's original post suggested.

Also casual sex was much less commonplace (at least openly). Steve "saving himself for marriage" wouldn't have been looked at as unusual at all.

Sure, plenty of soldiers got lots of action, but Steve not sleeping around wouldn't have had people going "must be gay lolz".

Given the amount of beautiful women Steve Rogers was surrounded by, then yes, there's plenty of people who would've been wondering if he was gay, cripplingly shy, a eunuch, or just blindly stupid.

I'd be willing to bet that CATWS actually addresses the question in an indirect, probably humorous manner. The issue of the "100 Year Old Virgin" is, of course, open to whatever offscreen fanfiction you care to dream up, of the G-rated or X-rated variety; but personally, I find it much easier to assume that Steve acted on at least one or two of the many opportunities he would've been presented with, as opposed to believing in some Harlequin Romance story that isn't even supported by CATFA. There's several years that pass between Steve's first encounter with Peggy and his next one; and there's no indication at all that he's moon-smitten enough by a co-worker to lock up his junk forever until he can put a ring on her finger.

[Sawyer]

Emily VanCamp Lands Lead Role

I am quite on board with this.

[Suzanne78]

I'm... confused.

Heart, so set on Brie.

I think Van Camp's decent on season 1 on Revenge, but... inconsistent.

Also... BRIE!! *sob*

[Chewy]

Like the choice. Glad our long national nightmare is over

[Suzanne78]

I will say, though, she won't have to go through months and months of training. Emanda is a *very* physically challenging role.

Also, she looks the very picture of Sharon Carter.

But still, I'll be weeping in my corner over no Alison Brie in the MCU. Yet.

(maybe for Jan Van Dyne?)

[Specter313]

Originally Posted by Sawyer

Emily VanCamp Lands Lead Role

I am quite on board with this.

She's always been quite badass when the character calls for it on Revenge, so if she is indeed Sharon Carter, I'm good with this.

[flash13]

I love Emily! Glad she got the role

[Suzanne78]

Wait a minute? So far, there aren't any detractors? And I'm the only one that's (a little) disappointed. Dang.

[J.Howlett]

Emily Van Camp in Winter Soldier?! Considering how religious my wife and I watch her show Revenge, I COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY DOWN WITH THIS.

She's fantastic. This is going to break her out big time....

[terry78]

Getting it out the way, Van Camp is hot as a mofo.


Regarding her ability, she can do this. Watch Revenge on ABC, like a full episode. That's all you need to do.

[CaptainCanada]

Unexpected choice, but makes sense. I've been a fan of hers since Everwood, and she can handle action on Revenge.