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Old 01-29-2013, 07:06 AM   #276
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Default Re: The Web Fluid: Stolen, or bought? Oscorp, or not?

the only thing we know for sure know is that Peter bought a package of the containers. I really don't buy that he has the money to keep ordering them

I really want them to show Peter doing it from scratch in the sequel.

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Old 07-20-2013, 05:16 PM   #277
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There is definitely a problem here. Tbh, this question is the reason I found this Forum; after watching the scene where he sees the promotional video then suddenly had a box of bio-cable cartridges I asked all these questions to myself. No answer is self evident, he is too poor to be ordering cutting edge, state of the art industrial materials, I think the estimated prices given here are WAY too small. The idea he stole it is a possible explanation, but given the levels of security it at least demands a scene to show this. The most plausible explanation I think is that Gwen or Dr Connors let him have some,given their level of clearance and friendship with Peter. He probably just needed to give them some guff about how much he LOVES science
This still leaves us with the bigger problem; how does he continue to produce the web fluid?
A) he continues to buy/steal from Oscorp; obvious problems concerning expense, traceability etc.
B) he starts his own radioactive spider farm in Aunt May's attic. Serious start up and running difficulties here.
C) he secretes the organic component from his own body. Not implausible given all his spider DNA, but we are wandering dangerously close to the Raimi heresy here. Of course it doesn't need to come conveniently from the wrists as he is loading the finished products into shooters. Maybe Gwen Stacy will help him produce an inexhaustible supply

Building 'from scratch' is what should happen, however now that Webb has gone down the organic route it will be difficult to justify Peter somehow producing an inorganic version using his Salter Junior Chemistry Kit where the whole of Oscorp has failed, even with the McGuffin of 'Decay Rate Algorythym'. After all, that was for organic materials too. He would need to go down the route of B) or C) to maintain any kind of plausibility.

I'm guessing A) as Webb seems to love plot-lines around Oscorp, that's if he even feels the need to address the issue.....


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Old 08-03-2013, 01:32 PM   #278
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I assumed he bought them from Oscorp

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Old 08-03-2013, 02:04 PM   #279
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He bought the stuff from Oscorp. It will take a while for him to use all that up. He had, what, 40 canisters? If each one holds 1000 meters of the stuff, then it should take a while for him to use. Also, at some points in the movie, he was able to retract the web back into the shooter, thus allowing him to save it even more. Also, the fluid/line itself was taken from Oscorp, but without the spinneret he invented, it would only have been some sort of line or cable, not a webbing shape.

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Old 08-03-2013, 07:07 PM   #280
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There is definitely a problem here. Tbh, this question is the reason I found this Forum; after watching the scene where he sees the promotional video then suddenly had a box of bio-cable cartridges I asked all these questions to myself. No answer is self evident, he is too poor to be ordering cutting edge, state of the art industrial materials, I think the estimated prices given here are WAY too small. The idea he stole it is a possible explanation, but given the levels of security it at least demands a scene to show this. The most plausible explanation I think is that Gwen or Dr Connors let him have some,given their level of clearance and friendship with Peter. He probably just needed to give them some guff about how much he LOVES science
This still leaves us with the bigger problem; how does he continue to produce the web fluid?
A) he continues to buy/steal from Oscorp; obvious problems concerning expense, traceability etc.
B) he starts his own radioactive spider farm in Aunt May's attic. Serious start up and running difficulties here.
C) he secretes the organic component from his own body. Not implausible given all his spider DNA, but we are wandering dangerously close to the Raimi heresy here. Of course it doesn't need to come conveniently from the wrists as he is loading the finished products into shooters. Maybe Gwen Stacy will help him produce an inexhaustible supply

Building 'from scratch' is what should happen, however now that Webb has gone down the organic route it will be difficult to justify Peter somehow producing an inorganic version using his Salter Junior Chemistry Kit where the whole of Oscorp has failed, even with the McGuffin of 'Decay Rate Algorythym'. After all, that was for organic materials too. He would need to go down the route of B) or C) to maintain any kind of plausibility.

I'm guessing A) as Webb seems to love plot-lines around Oscorp, that's if he even feels the need to address the issue.....
Well, there were time skips. And the movie didn't exactly tell us if Peter was THAT poor or how much is costs. I wouldn't put Peter not affording milk against him. We dont even know if he gets an allowance or not.

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Old 08-03-2013, 09:08 PM   #281
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Didn't Auny May and Peter really suffer financially after Ben's death? That was one less person bringing in some income, so I'm sure that hurt them a lot. We don't know how much a box of webbing could really cost. I'm sure he has some kind of an allowance that he was saving (I doubt he blows his money as much as other kids his age).

Anyways, I think now that Peter has obtained the webbing cartridges, he can find a way to create the webbing from scratch. TASM2 is 9 months later, so he can analyze the webbing and somehow find the formula. OR he can find the formula for the webbing in his dad's notes (since he did breed the spiders).

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Old 08-04-2013, 02:57 PM   #282
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Didn't Auny May and Peter really suffer financially after Ben's death? That was one less person bringing in some income, so I'm sure that hurt them a lot. We don't know how much a box of webbing could really cost. I'm sure he has some kind of an allowance that he was saving (I doubt he blows his money as much as other kids his age).

Anyways, I think now that Peter has obtained the webbing cartridges, he can find a way to create the webbing from scratch. TASM2 is 9 months later, so he can analyze the webbing and somehow find the formula. OR he can find the formula for the webbing in his dad's notes (since he did breed the spiders).
Again, the movie didn't really tell us that :P

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