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Old 01-30-2013, 04:50 PM   #776
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Like the production design of Krypton so far here.....and seeign Crowe as Jor El is a dream come true for me.

I always wanted him or Caviezel as Jor El in a rebooted Supes film.


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Old 01-30-2013, 04:52 PM   #777
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Yeah it looks wonderful

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Old 01-31-2013, 01:14 AM   #778
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I'm really glad we got a younger Jor-El this time around.
He's only 5 years younger than Marlon back then, but boy does he look more youthful.

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He's only 5 years younger than Marlon back then, but boy does he look more youthful.
And can memorise his lines himself.

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Old 01-31-2013, 01:38 AM   #780
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And think they're crap, but he can make them work, cos he's the best actor on the planet.

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And the good thing is that Warner Bros. wont have to spend a fortune to have Crowe appear as Jor-el in MOS like they did for Brando in S:TM.

I really hope that the scene with Crowe and the actress playing Lara that involves them saying their final goodbye to the infant Kal-el is a powerful moment in the film; I never felt the sad emotions that I thought I was supposed to for the farewell scene in S:TM; I did so for the animated version, so I'm hoping that this scene in MOS can really get me to emphasize with the characters

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Same here. Especially agreed on the TAS pilot. More points to Goyer if he's sensible enough to include the final frames of Birthright.

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More points to Goyer if he's sensible enough to include the final frames of Birthright.
That would best any final Superman fly past ending by far IMO.

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Old 01-31-2013, 01:51 AM   #784
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I can tell Crowe delivered a hell of a performance just by the delivery of his verbatim line from All Star Superman in the first trailer.

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Old 01-31-2013, 03:02 AM   #785
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More points to Goyer if he's sensible enough to include the final frames of Birthright.
I actually got a little choked up just imagining that right now. Of course, it doesn't help that I was listening to the score to All-Star Superman at the moment either. That music always gets to me, but hearing it as I was picturing the end of Birthright translated to live-action? Tears in my eyes. Now I'll be sad when he doesn't use that ending, lol.

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Yes, it's one of the very few times when I can say that I'll actually be bummed if something isn't used.

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Old 01-31-2013, 03:19 AM   #787
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Same here. Especially agreed on the TAS pilot. More points to Goyer if he's sensible enough to include the final frames of Birthright.
Does the majority here really want that? It didn't work for me. It's just not necessary. Jor-El and Lara dying not comforted by knowing but just believing that everything is going to be alright is far more powerful to me.

Also I don't think it'd be possible with Jor-El allegedly getting killed by Zod.

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If the latter is true, then yes, we won't get it. But if he dies "classically", then I want it. Sometimes people deserve to have their faith rewarded. Not a fan of belief, you see.

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The beginning and ending of Birthright with Krypton is so wonderfully done, any other comic's Krypton part, e.g Earth One, hasn't come close to the swell of emotions. I hope Goyer took HUGE amounts of inspiration from that part specifically. It's brilliantly written, but I think the fact that Jor El is the one whose struggling to give up his son, rather then stoically stating 'this must be done to save his life' which makes a big difference. The look Crowe's Jor El gives his wife in the trailer captures what he character must be going through, I can't wait to see more. The ending of Birthright is amazing, but I'm not sure if it would translate to film quite so easily?

I gave my girlfriend my copy of Birthright to read and she not only cried at the end, she said she never appreciated how sad Superman's story and situation really is. She likes the character even more now, which is good for me since its her I'll be taking to a midnight screening somewhere

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Old 01-31-2013, 05:03 AM   #790
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Russell Crowe has been snatching some epic roles recently. Les Miserables, Man with the iron fists and Man of steel. He really feels perfect for this role.

EDIT: And upcoming Noah of course. Epic.


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Gladiator Jor-El.

His suit design is really intriguing.

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If the latter is true, then yes, we won't get it. But if he dies "classically", then I want it. Sometimes people deserve to have their faith rewarded. Not a fan of belief, you see.
Not necessarily. We know Zod and Jor-El fight, apparently with "laser swords". It's entirely possible Zod deals the fatal blow to Jor-El, but before Jor-El dies, Zod is apprehended and Jor-El rockets Kal-El away. Kal-El then contacts him across 30 years letting his father know in his final moments he made it.

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Not necessarily. We know Zod and Jor-El fight, apparently with "laser swords". It's entirely possible Zod deals the fatal blow to Jor-El, but before Jor-El dies, Zod is apprehended and Jor-El rockets Kal-El away. Kal-El then contacts him across 30 years letting his father know in his final moments he made it.
I have a feeling that Jor-El knows that Krypton is going to be destroyed soon, so as he per pairs for battle (so kind of massive fight with Zod obviously involved) He and Lara send Kal-El off. (the scene from the trailer where you see Jor-El, Lara and a baby, Jor-El is wearing his battle armor, not his council robes)

Jor-El then goes and has a fight with Zod as the planet starts to literally fall apart (the scene from the trailer of the woman with her back turned towards us watching explosions, probably Lara). Jor-El gets killed by Zod who then runs off with Faora in an attempt to escape Krypton. Lara then runs over to Jor-El who is dying, Lara has a futuristic tablet and then just as its all about to end....we get to see Cavill as Superman sending his parents the final message (Birthright).

Thats how I think its gonna happen in the movie (take all bets now lol)

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I actually got a little choked up just imagining that right now. Of course, it doesn't help that I was listening to the score to All-Star Superman at the moment either. That music always gets to me, but hearing it as I was picturing the end of Birthright translated to live-action? Tears in my eyes. Now I'll be sad when he doesn't use that ending, lol.


Oh yeah, seeing something like the ending to Birthright onscreen in MOS would be emotional and would give me goosebumps and it would of course be....EPIC.

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The face looks like the south park russell crowe

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As much as I'd love for Goyer to have found a way to have the Birthright ending work in this film, that shot from the trailer of Lara watching Krypton's destruction on her own doesn't give me much hope, she seriously doesn't have much time left if that shot is anything to go by...

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Could be after the message.

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As much as I'd love for Goyer to have found a way to have the Birthright ending work in this film, that shot from the trailer of Lara watching Krypton's destruction on her own doesn't give me much hope, she seriously doesn't have much time left if that shot is anything to go by...
Yeah, I think Jor-El will try to warn Krypton's leaders of impending destruction, they won't listen, he'll tell Lara to wait a little while for him and if he doesn't come back to leave with Kal-El. He'll try to follow after if he can. Jor-El will go to try to stop whatever is destroying Krypton from happening. But for whatever reason (Zod?) he won't make it back. Lara will send Kal-El off on his own and remain behind, waiting on her husband, unwilling to leave without him.

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As much as I'd love for Goyer to have found a way to have the Birthright ending work in this film, that shot from the trailer of Lara watching Krypton's destruction on her own doesn't give me much hope, she seriously doesn't have much time left if that shot is anything to go by...
There will be scenes of Jor-El, Lara and Kal-El together:


It's a matter of context and editing order wrt Lara standing alone witnessing what I presumed to be Krypton's destruction.

I have a strong feeling that the Krypton sequences will be flashbacks by Zod and Clark in the fortress of solitude.

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What if that rumor twist at the end of MOS be jor-el In this armor suit, show up to defeat zod.


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