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Old 02-01-2013, 07:51 PM   #726
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Just because she wasn't on our radar doesn't mean she wasn't. on the studio's.

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Old 02-01-2013, 08:38 PM   #727
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First I thought this movie was going to suck hard because the people directing it, but I read an article abou the Russo brothers and I feel more confident.

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It was originally reported that Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige was very impressed by the Russo brothers’ “try-out” for the Captain America 2 directing job. Moreover, the siblings had already taken steps to avoid being branded as solely comedy filmmakers, seeing how they attached themselves to direct the Ciudad graphic novel adaptations (with Dwayne Johnson) prior to their interview for the Cap sequel.
Marvel heads clearly (hopefully?) know something that everyone else does not, since Captain America 2 will be more grounded and darker than its predecessor – as it deals primarily with Steve Rogers’ (Chris Evans) attempts to carry out missions for S.H.I.E.L.D. in the modern-day landscape. As it stands, the Russo brothers have been deemed worthy to carry out that task.
Captain America 2 will arrive in U.S. theaters on April 4th, 2014.
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Well they seem to have cast in house since ABC is owned by Disney. I'm sure that's how they'll manage to allow Emily to be on both Revenge and Cap 2, and even possibly guest appearances in SHIELD. Maybe someone from ABC suggested her when they couldn't find a suitable actress for the movie. She didn't seem to be on their radar at all before.
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The signing of VanCamp suggests to me that all those "short lists" were either fabricated by entertainment writers or based on hype generated by various actresses' agents. "Sources close to the selection process" could mean anyone from a producer at Marvel to an actor's rep or some guy who works in a studio mailroom. Planting a casting rumor is a quick way to get a hit of publicity for a film or an actress. Marvel might have had its eye on VanCamp all the while, as far as we know.

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Well, Chris Evans wasnt on their radar for Cap last time , that worked out pretty well.
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That was unexpected. I have no real reaction. Only known her for her TV roles - couldn't get into Revenge, seen a few episodes. But I had seen her here and there on other shows. She didn't leave bad impression. It will be weird seeing her on the big screen.

If I remember correctly, Evan's name started to pop up the last month or so before he was cast. Here, no one had ever mentioned her before today (is it official though?)

I think she'll do fine. Of all the MCU films casts, Captain America is the only one that I have no issue with the casting so far. Although, most were surprise choices at first, but after watching the film, I thought they were all great in their roles and couldn't imagine other actors for them.

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First I thought this movie was going to suck hard because the people directing it, but I read an article abou the Russo brothers and I feel more confident.

Check out the excerpt-

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It was originally reported that Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige was very impressed by the Russo brothers’ “try-out” for the Captain America 2 directing job. Moreover, the siblings had already taken steps to avoid being branded as solely comedy filmmakers, seeing how they attached themselves to direct the Ciudad graphic novel adaptations (with Dwayne Johnson) prior to their interview for the Cap sequel.
Marvel heads clearly (hopefully?) know something that everyone else does not, since Captain America 2 will be more grounded and darker than its predecessor – as it deals primarily with Steve Rogers’ (Chris Evans) attempts to carry out missions for S.H.I.E.L.D. in the modern-day landscape. As it stands, the Russo brothers have been deemed worthy to carry out that task.
Captain America 2 will arrive in U.S. theaters on April 4th, 2014.
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Have to say I agree with you. I feel like the general reaction was negative when it was first announced these guys were at the helm, but I am excited because it is so unconventional. It seems like the type of "out of left field" selection that ends up being brilliant. For some reason it sort of reminds me of George Lucas selecting Irvin Kirshner to direct Empire Strikes Back. I can't exactly say why I get that feeling, but I do. Indie film makers who are used to working tightly scripted material. I am very much looking forward to this.

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You know, I'm almost *positive* that Baron Zemo is going to be the *real* villain in this movie, and that a very big name will play the role. It's been Marvel Studios' strategy in almost every movie they've made so far (except Avengers of course, which recycled a villain). Marquee names like Jeff Bridges, Mickey Rourke, Guy Pearce, Ben Kingsley, William Hurt, Tim Roth, and Hugo Weaving. (Hiddie might be the notable exception to the rule, but he's one helluvan exception.) So far, Scarjo is the only real "marquee" name in this whole ensemble; I'll argue with you about whether or not Evans has made it to "marquee" status yet. (Samjack counts, if/when Fury is confirmed to be a part of the supporting cast.)

So it doesn't make any sense that they're depending on (no-)names like Grillo and Jones to be the principal antagonist. This movie *still* needs a true BIG Bad, and it still needs a BIG name to fill those shoes. As in, an award-winning name.

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I still think we're going to see Crossbones get a Whiplash-esque villain upgrade.

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Doug Loves Movies podcast had chris evans on as a guest and chris said he hasn't even gotten the script yet
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and this site says shooting has been pushed from march to june

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When I read it was pushed back till June I though, hey, this frees time up for actress X to wrap up the movie she's doing and get into training.

Then I remembered EVC.

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Cap pushed back to June? That's no good. How will they make their release date next year? Why do they need to push it back?

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You know, I'm almost *positive* that Baron Zemo is going to be the *real* villain in this movie, and that a very big name will play the role. It's been Marvel Studios' strategy in almost every movie they've made so far (except Avengers of course, which recycled a villain). Marquee names like Jeff Bridges, Mickey Rourke, Guy Pearce, Ben Kingsley, William Hurt, Tim Roth, and Hugo Weaving. (Hiddie might be the notable exception to the rule, but he's one helluvan exception.) So far, Scarjo is the only real "marquee" name in this whole ensemble; I'll argue with you about whether or not Evans has made it to "marquee" status yet. (Samjack counts, if/when Fury is confirmed to be a part of the supporting cast.)

So it doesn't make any sense that they're depending on (no-)names like Grillo and Jones to be the principal antagonist. This movie *still* needs a true BIG Bad, and it still needs a BIG name to fill those shoes. As in, an award-winning name.
Yeah, he counts. Fury's going to be in the movie.

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Don't worry about big names. One or two major roles are not cast yet and MS has a habit of casting the biggest names in supporting roles or as villains. Not to mention that in terms of getting people to watch the movie, MS itself has become one of those big names. There are many people who will watch that movie because it is made by MS and I'm not talking about fanpersons here, I'm talking about regular moviegoers.

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Emily VanCamp, while not a big name, will also draw a lot of fans of Revenge, which is a hit TV series.

Wouldn't have minded seeing flashbacks involving Hayley Atwell and Tommy Lee Jones though, especially if it showed the aftermath of when Rogers went missing. I feel that that part of the story will never be seen, but I would like to know Peggy's reaction to her loss and how she dealt with things. Of course, they can't all be Cap's flashbacks if that were the case.

Would also be cool if we had a flashback with the Howling Commandos, allowing Neal McDonagh to return as Dum Dum Dugan.

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Now that this movie has three women (so far) cast in pretty major supporting roles, dare I hope it'll pass Bechdel? So far, Thor has that distinction over its other MCU counterparts.

I really like how Marvel's going big time for the female audience. Hit up the female star of one of the most zeitgeistiest TV shows of recent. (And, as someone pointed out earlier, on the same network as their upcoming S.H.I.E.L.D. series).
Iron Man 2 passed the Bechdel test, as well.

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Did it? I don't remember any conversations between Pepper and Natasha that didn't revolve around Tony.

Maybe a quick one in Pepper's office before Tony came in...

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You know, I'm almost *positive* that Baron Zemo is going to be the *real* villain in this movie, and that a very big name will play the role. It's been Marvel Studios' strategy in almost every movie they've made so far (except Avengers of course, which recycled a villain). Marquee names like Jeff Bridges, Mickey Rourke, Guy Pearce, Ben Kingsley, William Hurt, Tim Roth, and Hugo Weaving. (Hiddie might be the notable exception to the rule, but he's one helluvan exception.) So far, Scarjo is the only real "marquee" name in this whole ensemble; I'll argue with you about whether or not Evans has made it to "marquee" status yet. (Samjack counts, if/when Fury is confirmed to be a part of the supporting cast.)

So it doesn't make any sense that they're depending on (no-)names like Grillo and Jones to be the principal antagonist. This movie *still* needs a true BIG Bad, and it still needs a BIG name to fill those shoes. As in, an award-winning name.
Fury is already confirmed to be apart of the supporting cast. And yeah, no way Winter Soldier and Crossbones are the main villains. They're grunts for other people. And I highly doubt that the Russian government itself is the antagonist either.

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Cap pushed back to June? That's no good. How will they make their release date next year? Why do they need to push it back?

Until Marvel officially announces that the date has changed that is a rumor from one website of questionable reliability. The same notice also says "March 2013". They have previously posted notices with the wrong year on them, so anything they say needs the proverbial grain of salt.

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Until Marvel officially announces that the date has changed that is a rumor from one website of questionable reliability. The same notice also says "March 2013". They have previously posted notices with the wrong year on them, so anything they say needs the proverbial grain of salt.
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i want them to update the suit and make it more rugged with darker colors. And I actually want them to give him his metal wings on the sides of his mask. Let the wings be shield radio com link. So they can communicate with him via radio frequencies.

that will part of the new suit.

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Random observation: I'm willing to bet that the fact that Marvel went with a non-marquee TV star to be Cap's love interest means it's likely that Vancamp was signed to a multi-pic deal. They have a history of recruiting TV stars for recurring roles, while going for known-quantity names for one-shot villains and supporting cast. If true, Agent 13 might well show up in *lots* of places, including the SHIELD TV show.

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Ya Emily is gorgeous so I am happy they went with her. Will be cool if folks from the movies pop up in the show too.

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Random observation: I'm willing to bet that the fact that Marvel went with a non-marquee TV star to be Cap's love interest means it's likely that Vancamp was signed to a multi-pic deal. They have a history of recruiting TV stars for recurring roles, while going for known-quantity names for one-shot villains and supporting cast. If true, Agent 13 might well show up in *lots* of places, including the SHIELD TV show.
Coincidentally, the SHIELD show will be in the second half of its first season when Cap 2 is released. Wonder if we'll see a cross between the two with Sharon showing up?

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Coincidentally, the SHIELD show will be in the second half of its first season when Cap 2 is released. Wonder if we'll see a cross between the two with Sharon showing up?
And HIMYM will be nearly over so Cobie could soon show up too.

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Until Marvel officially announces that the date has changed that is a rumor from one website of questionable reliability. The same notice also says "March 2013". They have previously posted notices with the wrong year on them, so anything they say needs the proverbial grain of salt.
when your lead hasn't read script i say the date is gonna move lol

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