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View Poll Results: Your Preferred Flash For This Movie (Regardless who it ends up being officially)
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:09 PM   #601
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IN CLOSING...

The film ends with The Flash revered as a hero. Barry asks Iris out on a date, she agrees, and she tells him not to be late. Barry has every intention of showing up on time, and as he is in his apartment preparing for his evening date (in front of a MIRROR), his scanner goes off, the Central City PD is calling all units downtown for an emergency, a bank has been frozen. Barry looks at the clock. It looks like he's going to be a little late for his date after all, story of his life, but this time, its because he chooses to be, he's comfortable with himself. He turns to the camera, releases the costume from the ring, and THE FLASH races off. He runs with the Police cars, slowing down enough to see an officer who glares at him, The Flash waves, and then he picks up speed and passes the police cars and helicopters, runs up the side of buildings, speed jumps, and runs into the sunset. It's the story of his life, it's the life story of THE FLASH. End of movie.






As for who could play The Flash, I'd have to agree with fan favorite Ryan Gosling, who may not be your typical hollywood pretty boy, but he has one thing going for him most those other guys don't have - believability. You buy him as a "smart" person and can take him seriously. So if they don't cast Ryan or he does not want the part, hopefully they get someone else of that caliber/type actor. For a film score (everyone knows how much we fanboys love our movie tracks) I'd suggest David Arnold (Independence Day fellas), James Horner, Michael Giacchino, Randy Edelman, or Hans Zimmer (yeah, he did Batman and Pirates, but he also did Kung Fu Panda and Megamind, he has great range), any of these guys could provide a quality soundtrack.




^^ These are just some ideas of what they could do with The Flash movie. They aren't perfect, and many of them probably need rethinking, but I think it's a pretty good outline of what would make a good Flash film. I hope you liked them and would love to hear your thoughts. I know it's a long post, but a special thanks to everyone who read and stayed to the end. Now hopefully WB gets this running.


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Aweeeeesome.

I'd just take out your paragraph about the importance of a good script. I'm pretty sure that's a given!

Also, what other movie would you say is the closest thing to what you picture the Flash movie to be like, visually/tonally?


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Old 02-03-2013, 07:21 PM   #603
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Aweeeeesome.

I'd just take out your paragraph about the importance of a good script. I'm pretty sure that's a given!

Also, what other movie would you say is the closest thing to what you picture the Flash movie to be like, visually/tonally?
Haha thanks man. And the first Star Trek film, because it's a "hero's journey" type thing. The sequel will be about The Reverse Flash coming back in time to **** with him, the whole reason he goes into forensics is because his mother is murdered when he was 13, his father the "culprit", although Barry knows he is innocent. His mother was murdered by an enemy he had not yet made...an enemy from...THE FUTURE! This will be explored in the sequel, but only touched on briefly in the first film if at all, it will not be the overarching story for the character. All we will know if this subplot is used is that the reason he went into forensics is because his mother was murdered and his father framed when he was 13, we won't know that it was the time travelling Professor Thawne that did it. This may be talked about a little, and shown, from Barry's perspective at the beginning of the film, but the case itself will remain "unsolved" until the sequel. Barry will start to come out of his shell more after he becomes The Flash. At the end of two Barry will restore reality to the way it was in the first film, where he lives a life without his mother alive and well. Flash 2 will be about his life becoming a living hell.


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Well Wonder Woman would be WB's Thor...no?

Also, Flash is a lot harder to make cool compared to Iron Man; just saying. Flash's 'fast running' is 'goofy' looking (not saying it's lame).

Iron Man is cool without even trying; Flash has an uphill battle when it comes to a screen adaptation.

I personally think they should make the film feel like it's on crack. Literally make it the most energetic movie ever, and it should fly by. I think Danny Boyle's kinetic style would be perfect.
I disagree there. Iron Man was in the same place Flash was I think prior to the movie. Anyone I mentioned him to prior to the film's release thought he was lame (non comic people who had maybe seen him in a cartoon or something). The Flash people at least liked because of JL somewhat..but yeah, still. I see what you are saying though.

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Ahh, Star Trek, good choice. Perfect blend of serious/fun.

I also think that would have worked for Green Lantern (and perhaps the JL movie as well).

Regarding the running, I could see it causing unintentional laughter/groaning or whatever.
I think a smart movie would be to treat as being intentionally 'funny'/crazy/fun the first time it happens, instead of trying to bite off being 'cool' immediately, or to pretend like there isn't this goofy element to it. If you know what I mean.


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^^ Definitely agree there on GL. And yeah I could see that...I think it depends how they shoot it. If it looks like The Hobbit, then yeah, definitely. I hope they think more "light speed" though. What you described there would work though haha...but the big thing is that we don't become "smarter" than the material, then you're in borderline self parody territory ya know?

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They need to dispel the notion that The Flash is "just a guy who runs fast". The Flash IS fast. Think about that. THAT could be awesome. He's a red blur and lightning and just appears out of nowhere. The only time we will ever "see" him running is if the camera is travelling with him, and everything around us will have slown down. To the naked eye, we don't see a thing.

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I also think they could do a lot of creative stuff with camera editing to convey speed.

Ie: instead of using a regular length shot to show flash running circles around a villain to punch him from all sides, instead have a bunch of quick cuts; he's in front of the baddie who's taking a swing at him, and the next shot Flash is punching the baddie in the back of the head. Stuff like that.

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Oh absolutely. Lot of practical shots. I get what you're saying. But this isn't the 70s anymore where they'd have to stop the camera, have him move, then resume shooting ya know haha, this movie is a perfect opportunity to blow a bajillion dollar budget on mind boggling super speed feats showing how awesome The Flash is. Not that EVERY scene has to be a CGIfest but you get what I mean. The Flash is one of the most visually dependent superheroes in all of comicdom...anything he's done in comics over the years can be brought to life perfectly in today's cinema. The best thing about this is we haven't really seen that power explored much in movies yet. We've seen flight. super strength, tons of others, but not speed just yet. Until Flash steps up to the plate.

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Mike Vogel as Barry Allen wouldn't be bad....based on looks alone. Idk how his acting is, so someone may have to cue me in.

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Mike Vogel as Barry Allen wouldn't be bad....based on looks alone. Idk how his acting is, so someone may have to cue me in.
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I'm still curious to see how well the super fast legs translates to screen.

Remember, in comics we don't see that, we only we usually see Flash in cool action poses conveying a sense of speed.

No flailing legs though.

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How much depth to the role would Ryan Gosling bring?

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I think he'd bring as much or more as anyone else's name that's been thrown around. He's a good actor and looks enough like him.

But what about MIKE VOGEL?



He looks like Barry Allen to me. His name was also thrown around for Captain America and Kirk in Star Trek. Provided he's a good actor, I think he wouldn't be a bad choice, based on looks and age alone at least. And hey if he were up for Cap and Kirk he can't be that bad...


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What about Ryan Eggold:




He might do Flash/Barry well. Seems like a nice guy.


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I love the idea of Mike Vogel as Flash

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Its funny you want the Flash movie to be like Star Trek BECAUSE CHRIS PINE WOULD MAKE THE BEST FLASH OUT OF ANYBODY ON THE PLANET BESIDES MICHEAL WEATHERLY.

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Its funny you want the Flash movie to be like Star Trek BECAUSE CHRIS PINE WOULD MAKE THE BEST FLASH OUT OF ANYBODY ON THE PLANET BESIDES MICHEAL WEATHERLY.
I thought everybody wanted Chris Pine to replace Ryan Reynolds as Hal Jordan.

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The Flash's Central City should not look like some generic city backdrop, it should not be New York City, but you should still be able to look at the city and think that it COULD be a real place, like you know it exists but are just unsure how to get to it. The city and sets need to be as interesting and exclusive as the character to the film and "personalized"; you HAVEN'T seen CENTRAL CITY in a movie before. It does not need to be a Tim Burton creation or a "period piece", but they need to establish that this is a city on the go, always on the move, and on the cutting edge of things. Central City never slows down.
I like the sound of that.

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The opening scene of the film should be the scene of the accident which grants Barry his powers (grabbing the audience in), everything freezes as the lightning stops inches from his chest, about to strike. From there, Barry's voice takes over, and he talks about what it's like being The Flash, and how in the accident his life flashed before his eyes, like one of those dreams where you're falling, and from there the camera follows the lightning up into the midnight sky into the clouds, the screen goes white. From there, a series of flashbacks, begin with Barry as a young child being late for school, and we follow the movie from there up until the scene of the accident, which we will revisit at about 15 min later into the movie.

WHO IS BARRY ALLEN? Well, Barry Allen is a 24 year old (maybe older but no younger than 24) graduate with a major in organic chemistry and a minor in criminology, getting his job at Central City Police Department, a job he sort of stumbled onto that he was qualified for when looking for work. The film should also begin and end with Barry narrating. Barry is a good guy, a sort of everyman, guy-next-door type. The most down to earth person in the DCU, and he has a good sense of morality thanks to his parents being good natured Iowa folk.
Sounds good.

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Something he will have always been curious about is a "tachyon theory", faster than light particles that move so fast they are actually moving backwards through time (which is tied together in Barry becoming The Flash, as we find out one day (maybe the end of the trilogy) that Barry IS the lightning bolt that hit himself, which maybe explains the "completeness" he feels as The Flash, hence the white circle behind the lightning in The Flash symbol he wears (the "theory" is proved true and by none other than Barry Allen himself in a quite literal sense one day), this is maybe alluded to in a few bits of dialogue.
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Barry Allen is late for everything and "slow", not in wit or intellect, but rather "distracted"; he's not REALLY "slow", he just gets caught up in other things and always ends up being late. The journey getting to wherever it is he's going is more important than the actual destination to him a lot of times, unlike everyone else in Central City who is always in a rush and more "go getter-ish". This is a chronic problem for him in his personal life. BARRY ALLEN IS ALWAYS, ALWAYS LATE. Even when he is certain he ISN'T going to be. Barry is pretty laid back and easy going, but very bright, and a hard worker, and when he commits to something it will get done, no matter how long it takes. It's not always about being first for him but crossing the finish line. The Flash/Barry Allen is a character all about speed, speed and its related forms. Barry Allen becomes FAST because he is SLOW.
I always loved that. I'd definitely like to see them address that in some way in the film.

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His first case in the lab is one that involves a murder with a mirror where he's being counted on to provide evidence to convict small time crook Sam Scudder (who we will get to in a moment), a trial is wanted ASAP for him and there's a short deadline. Barry ends up extracting the evidence to put Scudder away, and it is through this he meets Iris West, a reporter covering the story, who comes to him for questions. As it turns out they both met each other before but were never "officially" aquainted, the two "met" in college briefly in a rather embarrassing moment where Barry bumps into her on the way to a class he was late for a couple years back and drops his books, so Iris asks if she knows him from somewhere, there's a brief flashback on Barry's part "Nope, pretty sure we've never met", and then they proceed to talk business. There is a mutual, quiet attraction between the two, but that is not given much time to blossom thanks to hotshot Detective Russo, who sweeps Iris away right under Barry's nose and tries to set up a date to go out with her (or just down her pants, as Russo is a "macho" type and somewhat of a horndog). He tells Barry he'll need the lab results on his desk in the morning and to "pick up the pace".
There wasn't a single bad idea in that paragraph.

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Anyway, because of the Scudder case being fast tracked to put him away, there is a ton of work that was put on hold temporarily in order to divert all efforts toward convicting Scudder that now needs to be done, Barry is commended for his work on Scudder by his boss, Captain Darryl Frye, but is disciplined for his tardiness/lateness, Frye warns him that there are people who will do his job AND be on time, and asks Barry to stay later that night and finish his work because of his late arrival and the heavy workload. It is this night Barry is hit by lightning and the accident that gives him super speed occurs (this is where fast because he is slow comes in, Barry Allen is the only major DC Comic characters to not only have his powers from an ACCIDENT but also because of his one, major FLAW; the man is always late).

Barry knows something has changed with him and that he should probably be dead, he uses his super speed in small doses at first and documents what's happening with himself as he's been taught with chemistry and criminology, plus being the slightly "methodic" person he is.
All good stuff.

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The first time Barry uses his powers to actually help someone it's to save Iris, who is reporting at a burning building in Central City where there are terrorists involved, a terrorist grabs Iris right in front of the camera and takes her hostage with a gun to her head. Meanwhile Barry, Russo, and Captain Frye, are watching. Russo and Frye take off, or maybe Frye is already there, but anyway Russo takes off to be the "big hero", and Barry is told he's too slow even if he were a "real" cop and to stay put. After they've left Barry slips out in his civilian clothes at super speed, he's never REALLY tested how fast he is yet, as he has only had his powers for 2 or 3 days. Anyway, his clothes burn off at the high speeds and anything left on him burns out in the fire (he's literally "The Flash", and he has not yet discovered his ability to vibrate his molecules at super speed which allows him to pass through solid objects). He has to keep moving for two reasons, so he isn't burnt and so people don't see him. Except for maybe running there, most of this scene is shot from the thugs point of view, Barry runs up the side of the burning building, dodges some bullets, and pulls Iris out and the few people left inside before it collapses. He then creates a suction of wind with his speed to smother the flames. People think he is an angel or a blur, some people have motion sickness and are not sure what happened but they are just happy to be alive. Barry escapes and thinks he's got to rethink the powers thing and next time maybe wear something that WON'T burn off him when he runs.
So...what you're saying is he's running around naked? And he's not only naked...but also on fire?



You've got some pretty interesting ideas, man, I'll give you that. I'm totally on board so far.

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At first Barry has no intentions of being a superhero. He ends up wearing a super hero style "special" suit because (although not the complete suit yet) his ordinary clothes, which are loose fitting, burn and tear when he runs, they aren't protected by the aura around his body that shield him from friction (although he will later learn to expand his aura and vibrate so he can protect civillians when he runs with them). And the other reason is he likes comic books/superheroes, so the suit is sort of a fun thing to him. It's not that far fetched an idea, really. Look at our rock stars and things. People DO wear "eccentric/outlandish" outfits in real life, so I think this is somewhat plausible.

Maybe one day, Barry ends up stopping one random crime he notices, and it's not like doing this takes up his whole day or the most of his time now. He has ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD as The Flash. All this escalates, one thing leads to another, next thing he knows he's now got a complete costume and is listening to a police scanner (which he builds into his ear-piece) and is somewhat of a hometown hero, a celebrity, the city has a fascination with him but the police would like to know who - or what, he is. Eventually Iris West will get the first tv interview with The Flash, which will be brief, but funny, and show what a down to earth guy he is.


Also, as The Flash, Barry is his own enemy in a way from a "business" perspective; Barry's day job revolves around him essentially picking up the pieces of crime's aftermath, being the "cleanup" guy in a way, as The Flash, now he is able to stop them before they happen IF he is fast enough. Like imagine a scene where Barry heads into work to find that there's nothing for him to do except try to piece together who The Flash is...and he just sort of sits there and scratches his head like "Well **** me..." . A scene like that would work well in the movie, I think.
All solid ideas.

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A couple ideas for the suit include, and most obviously, that he wears the suit because it is the only thing he can wear that won't tear, a special type of "unstable" material...
Sounds good to me. However, I'd say that he created it after he graduated from college.

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The Flash also has a police scanner synced into his ear piece that he can pick up only when he is moving at low speeds, there needs to be an explanation for how he gets that device in there and how it doesn't get destroyed when he runs.
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The strongest idea though, as of right now I think, is that he wears it to be an actual "superhero" or "public figure", inspired by comic books, like he did in the original story.
I think he should be inspired by one of the other DC heroes instead, like Superman.

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...perhaps one of the first suits he comes up with is reminiscent of Jay Garrick, the Golden Age Mercury inspired Flash (almost like the Jay Garrick of the new Earth 2 book) so he can keep the police scanner in there (this is a little nod to Jay Garrick in the film and how silly and clunky his costume would look in real life), prior to his perfecting it into the classic, streamlined Flash look.
That'd be pretty neat, actually.

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If they use the costume ring, it's something Barry came up with while in college, a sort of unstable material that expands on contact with air, like an inflatable raft...
Again, I think that's something he should've created after he graduated.

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When The Flash speaks, his voice should sound like speed incarnate, sort of electrical and crackley, but we can still understand him. Just a little "tweak" effect to his voice would be cool to differentiate him from Barry.
You know, that's a really cool idea. I never thought of that.

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As for the powers, there is always the issue of "if he has super speed, isn't everything in SLOW MOTION to him ALL THE TIME?", well, we're not going to do that, because one, it's stupid, and two, the "slow-mo for everything" has been done to death. This film is going to answer a LOT of peoples questions on what it might be like to have super speed, or what it might be like to be The Flash at least, and by the time the credits roll the audience will have a whole new set of ideas and outlook on how super speed might work. The Flash has "speed mode", which he has to kick into when he uses his super speed (although his subconscious protects him in times of danger and the "speed mode" is a part of it and will take over reflexively in times of danger) - this way everything isn't moving "super slow" to him all the time, only when he wants it to. At first he "kicks into it" as sort of an accident.
Love it.

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The Flash needs to do more than just run fast. They need to establish that he has complete control over his molecular structure and can literally do ANYTHING fast (insert sex joke here). Think fast, talk fast, read (and retain what he reads) fast, see fast, he has complete control over his body mass when he runs, etc, he can become lighter than air or build up tremendous momentum where he seems to be many times heavier than he really is to knock down a powerful opponent or barricade. The audience is going to leave this movie thinking that having super speed is the coolest super power ever, a movie that leaves them feeling anything less not deliver, as far as I am concerned.
I'm not necessarily against that, but I fear it would make him seem too powerful.

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Although the movie needs to be about the hero more that the villain, I think Mirror Master would make an interesting choice for the villain in this film because one, there aren't any other villains like him in comics. Coming out of mirrors/reflections would be cool/creepy, his powers are unlike that of any other comic book villain, and he is able to negate The Flash's abilities and be a true threat to him.

He could also be really scary of done right. Basically, Sam Scudder, the man who becomes Mirror Master, is driven insane by the weapon he's stolen/his use of it, his evil taken to its fullest potential, but the viewing other mirror worlds and things makes him mad with power. He kidnaps people through mirrors. He can find the prettiest girls all over the city in front of mirrors/reflections and kidnap them, he can really be anywehere. He gets a gleeful chuckle at how narcissistic people are, and just when you're not looking, he is there.

Sam Scudder aka Mirror Master should be kinda a lowlife felon (well, maybe slightly above your average thug), he'll be out of prison, his first murder is one he where he killed a victim with a mirror of all things, he is only referred to as "Mirror Master" once in the film (maybe a self referal, if at all...), and cops or people nickname him "the mirror man" when he is mentioned. Anyway, he should be an almost average thug who stumbles on to the technology and uses it to commit petty crimes at first, but his mind becomes "broadened" so to speak by the mirror realms he inadvertently "dicovers" and eventually he becomes tainted and completely power mad...
Love it. All of it.

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...possible plot could be pulling the entire Central City into a Mirror realm towards the end? Like a giant stunt.
This? Not so much. I don't hate it, but it sounds kind of cheesy. It would have to be explained and executed well for me to not cringe.

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mirror weapon that is going to use the light of the sun or some light beam like a giant reflection to pull the entire city into a mirror realm (it is also here where it is hinted at that there are "other realities/worlds" out there, which will become a mainstay/theme of The Flash franchise and explored in sequels by Barry Allen), and we get to see just how FAST Barry REALLY is, as he has to run into the mirror realms before they seal up and pull the people Scudder has kidnapped out of it, AND find his way back out every time....every "reflection" leads into a whole different mirror world, very few kidnap victims are in the same "reflection". Even if there is more than one person in a "portal", he will have to go back for them because he does not have super strength and he cannot carry them all. This will be a real challenge for The Flash. Meanwhile, time is ticking away, and once everyone has been taken OUT of Mirror Master's mirror realms, Barry is going to have to escape before it closes up, and he is going to have to out race the reflection in order to do it, he escapes narrowly.
I literally cannot tell you how exciting I think that sounds. Seriously, that's a great idea.

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He tries to save Mirror Master but he wants to live in his realm, refusing to leave, because that is the "real world" and everything else is just a reflection.
And this is just as good.

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Mirror Master unleashes the reflection beam that travels faster than the speed of light and in order to prevent the city from getting sucked into it once it bounces off Mirror Master's mirror thing, Barry must catch it. Barry can't save Scudder as he jumps into his mirror realm as he fires the weapon and Flash makes the decision to save the city instead of going after Scudder. Now it could end with him getting sucked in and as he tries to escape the mirror breaks and he is scattered all over the place, and Barry collects the pieces, and one day, if the Mirror is reassembled, piece by piece, they can get Scudder out (who is fine, just in a suspended state since it broke mid jump). Personally, I think that would be best, I don't want to kill him off so he can be used in sequels and team up with the other Rogues to go against The Flash.
Yes. Yes. Yes.

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Some of Mirror Master's mirror realms are horribly nightmarish and scary, there can also be little nods to classic Flash covers when The Flash enters in the mirror worlds where in one world he could have a giant head, and in another he could appear as incredibly fat, a little homage to some classic trippy silver age covers.
I don't see why not.

You've got some really solid ideas, man. Thanks for sharing.


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Great ideas, Kevin! Really enjoyed reading!

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I like the sound of that.

So...what you're saying is he's running around naked? And he's not only naked...but also on fire?


Haha yeah, I actually thought maybe his name "The Flash" is coined as a joke at first, but that may be taking it a bit too far.

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I think he should be inspired by one of the other DC heroes instead, like Superman.
That's not a bad idea. Barry did have a lot of revere for Superman in JLA: Year One and it could work well if it's a shared universe type thing, like we all hope for. I like it.

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I'm not necessarily against that, but I fear it would make him seem too powerful.
I don't think it necessarily would. I think it just shows all the different things you could do with speed, what particularly The Flash can do. Those are all things he has done in comics ya know? What better way to change the minds of the people who say "oh, Flash is lame, all he does is run fast". WHil it's true that he does run fast, he does all that other **** too haha. I think it'd be epic. But I do get what you mean...I just think with all those powers and things he can do you feel the guy could really hold his own with the other JLers.

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You've got some really solid ideas, man. Thanks for sharing.

Welcome! Thanks for your input, encouragement, and reading!! I hope WB is watching. Haha.

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Thanks, Spidergeek!

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Idea for a teaser trailer (Overview: a series of "Flash Facts" then a quick reveal of The Flash, briefly, just teasing the audience for what a ride this film will be), all wide screen shots (setting the stage for epicness):


Open with cheetah standing in a field, then running through it. We are amazed at its beauty and grace, but also its ferocity. It dashes by the camera. The screen goes black.







A caption comes up on it in white words:

"The Cheetah. 75 mph. Fastest land dwelling animal."


Next shot, a speedometer inside a car, sunlight blaring through the windshield, blinding us so not to see the exact speed it is going, just that the hand has went from the left side (presumably zero) to the right side completely. Then an outside shot of a high tech looking car speeding toward us at unbelievable speed. Camera shaking. Screen goes black again.







A caption reads:

"SSC Ultimate Aero. 257 mph. Fastest car in the world."

(or whatever the latest fastest car will be when the movie is released, I just chose this because I'm lazy, but you get the point)


The black fades out again to reveal a space shuttle, upright, launching from take off, flames and smoke billowing out from underneath, up into the sky. It is loud and bright and exciting, something mankind will always be in awe of. As the bottom of it leaves the top frame of the camera, the angle has changed where it's now flying toward us, leaving through the right side of the screen. Loud and impressive.




(yeah, I know it's not toward us and is actually going the opposite direction from which I described but...best I could find)

The screen fades to black again, a caption reads:

"Space Shuttle. 17,500 mph. Fastest man made object."

(or maybe it's not a Space Shuttle, but a shot of the Helios rocket that was sent to study the sun...? Want to be as accurate as possible)



By now the audience is wondering "okay, what the hell is this?"

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:






And that's when we hit them with this...


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The words fade away and are replaced by a question:

"YOU THINK THAT'S FAST?"

(Maybe something like the first 20-30 seconds of this plays...

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:


VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:



...as we are introduced to...: )



Cut out to reveal THE FLASH, headshot from behind, up close (it is evening, spring time, he is standing on top of a building roof, other taller buildings with cascading walls to his left and right that lead up to the sky out of the corner of the camera's POV, there's a somewhat rural area ahead with a road and trees, showing a path as if made for Flash to run, calling to him, implying this is a city but it's surrounded by country), camera pulling back from the side of his head (past the crimson red cowl and gold ear pieces with lightning finning off it flaring back, looking very shiny, reflective, and sharp), as he glances over his shoulder briefly for a look right into the camera, as if just realizing we were there. He smirks, revealing eyes that flash from a bold blue into golden electricity, quicker than it takes for us to process, then looks forward, purposed. The camera continues to pull back finally revealing a full body shot very briefly, now the camera has pulled back completely, the figure goes from standing into a loud BOOM, an explosion of light that blinds the camera. We regain focus less than a picosecond later only to see a wall of streams of red and gold lightning shooting off into the distance, it fades and trails off into the night behind him as the camera looks onward trying to find THE FLASH and figure out just what the hell happened along with the audience.


(Not the best image as far as the ear pieces go but it was the only one I could find of him close enough to the "big reveal" shot I was trying to describe)


(^^ Pretend a full body shot of Flash on a roof with his back turned toward the camera now stands toward the bottom right of the camera, looking over all this as the camera gradually rises up ^^)


(^^ and pretend that's a friendlier looking spring time image with a nice blue/green evening sky deserving of Central City filled with stars and the moon in the distance haha ^^)


Lightning then strikes through the screen, it goes black revealing the words:

"YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING YET."


THE FLASH LOGO then appears brifely....






(take your pick)


....followed by:

"SUMMER 2015"

(or whatever the year the good Lord sees fit ta give us The Flash film. tee hee.)


And thus the appetite of the world has just been wet. ....For a movie like none other before.


Thoughts? I know it's not the greatest, but I thought just doing a little would be good like MOS and TDK teasers. Plus, the "Flash Facts" helps keep it grounded in "reality" a bit, I feel, and may help give non comic book audiences a jumping on/"comparison" point to help get them "hooked". The Flash is filled with pseudo science, always was, even more so than most of the other DC Comics, so I thought that was appropriate.

And to clear things up because of that awful headshot up there with the bad ear pieces, THIS is EXACTLY how Flash's head/ear pieces should look in the movie. JUST LIKE THIS:




They're sleek, they're shiny, they look sharp, like they'd cut you almost. Plus I love the lightning jumping off of him and crackling from his eyes in this picture. Perfect for film, IMHO. Make it so, WB.


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