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Old 01-21-2013, 03:17 PM   #26
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The Killing Joke I would indeed reject, I felt The Man Who Laughs was much more about Batman dealing with the Joker than about the Joker/way the Joker thinks, though. It's Batman-centric, whereas the Killing Joke is indeed Joker-centric.

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Old 01-21-2013, 07:09 PM   #27
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I would go with The Long Halloween for comics. It has the elements of a crime story that's popular on television.

If the person asked for which television series, I'd go with Batman TAS.

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Old 01-21-2013, 09:39 PM   #28
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I know this might catch flak but Battle for the Cowl.

Why? Because it would introduce the entire Bat-Family all three Robins included, several main villains, Damian Wayne. A timeline of Batman's escapades and a glimpse into the future.

Also because it was technically the first true story of Batman I read once I finally got into comics. So if it worked for me it should work for them.

And definitely Batman TAS if it was for television.

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Old 01-23-2013, 11:50 AM   #29
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I would go with The Long Halloween for comics. It has the elements of a crime story that's popular on television.

If the person asked for which television series, I'd go with Batman TAS.
When I read it it seemed that Long Halloween (an excellent comic to introduce someone to Batman) follows Year One. The set up about Falcone and Catwoman and everything seems to flow from Year One to me. I would read in that order, Year One and then Long Halloween.
Maybe Hush would be a good one too. Its all about Batman and who he is, and sets up his relationships with everyone else. Alfred, Nightwing, Catwoman, Gordon, Joker, Two-Face, Ras al Ghul, Riddler, Jason Todd even. And it shows the relationship between Batman and Catwoman really well.

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When I read it it seemed that Long Halloween (an excellent comic to introduce someone to Batman) follows Year One. The set up about Falcone and Catwoman and everything seems to flow from Year One to me. I would read in that order, Year One and then Long Halloween.
Maybe Hush would be a good one too. Its all about Batman and who he is, and sets up his relationships with everyone else. Alfred, Nightwing, Catwoman, Gordon, Joker, Two-Face, Ras al Ghul, Riddler, Jason Todd even. And it shows the relationship between Batman and Catwoman really well.
You have a good point. And can't forget Hush! I may have been a little bias, too. I like and respect Year One, but Long Halloween really just made me a fan

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Old 01-28-2013, 08:50 PM   #31
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As a tangent on Batman origin comics: Did anyone else like Batman: Earth One besides me?

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Old 01-28-2013, 10:49 PM   #32
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As a tangent on Batman origin comics: Did anyone else like Batman: Earth One besides me?
I liked it, even if some people didn't, Gary Frank's art alone brings it up among gods like Don Newton, Jim Aparo.

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Old 01-31-2013, 06:41 AM   #33
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Cataclysm or No Man's Land.

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Old 01-31-2013, 08:21 AM   #34
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Earth One has a lot of interesting stuffs to bring as an alternate origin story. I don't think I would like it as a canon origin, but as a earth one origin, it's great.

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I'd start them with The Long Halloween, suggest Haunted Knight afterward, then Year One and The Killing Joke.

Also might suggest Court of Owls as an early read.

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Old 02-03-2013, 12:41 AM   #37
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I would have to be the Dick Grayson backstory, of how Graysons family was murdered, how it relates to Batman, and how Batman took in poor Dick.
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:45 AM   #38
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I liked Earth One! I thought the origin story was an intriguing way to retell the first batman adventure ;-)

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Old 02-03-2013, 03:06 AM   #39
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Why not Batman and the monster men.

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Old 02-03-2013, 12:11 PM   #40
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Scott Snyder's current run. Great plots, art, action, and characters.

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Old 02-03-2013, 12:19 PM   #41
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I realize it is supposed to be one particular story, but it's too difficult to decide between Owls and D.O.t.F.

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Old 02-04-2013, 02:06 AM   #42
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I suggest Gotham Central to people a lot. Not really a Batman series, though.

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Old 02-05-2013, 01:53 PM   #43
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Batgirl: Year One is a good choice.

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Old 10-20-2013, 11:36 AM   #45
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I liked it, even if some people didn't, Gary Frank's art alone brings it up among gods like Don Newton, Jim Aparo.
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Old 10-20-2013, 04:34 PM   #47
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I started with The Killing Joke and it worked for me. Because i had no idea Batman shouldn't kill i almost got the ending (i was pretty sure Batman did something to the Joker i just wasn't sure he strangled him, i thought he pushed him of a higher ground to match the joke). Getting something with good artwork also help to bring people in.

Year One is my pick, followed by The Long Halloween. The man who laughs was a huge dissapointment imo and not worthy of either the Killing Joke tie in or the Year One.

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I started with The Killing Joke and it worked for me. Because i had no idea Batman shouldn't kill i almost got the ending (i was pretty sure Batman did something to the Joker i just wasn't sure he strangled him, i thought he pushed him of a higher ground to match the joke). Getting something with good artwork also help to bring people in.
I thought the exact same thing, while i knew the rules i thought he strangled the Joker, another friend of mine thought the same.

Year One is my pick, followed by The Long Halloween. The man who laughs was a huge dissapointment imo and not worthy of either the Killing Joke tie in or the Year One.[/QUOTE]
Really? I never really got the disapointment of The Man Who Laughs, i allways found it very good, i was actually disapointed by Long Halloween, some parts felt like a complete rip-off of the Godfather. With the killing joke i only discovered it was regarded as one of the Best Batman comics way after i read it.

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The Long Halloween paid homage to The Godfather, Silence of the Lambs and fil, noir in general. Loeb used scenes and adapted lines and plot devices, everybody does that to a certain extent. I actually had a blast with The Long Halloween and while i do think it drags a bit its still a very well put together book and a classic story because it has everything you want from a good Batman book.

With the Man who Laughs i have many problems. Overall it doesn't seem bad but the Joker is really off if you pay close attention. His motivation is pretty bland, he comes off as lonely and sad instead of Batman's opposite or insane. When he talks i feel its someone impersonating The Joker. His schemes are quite interesting and it probably would have worked as just ONE random Joker issue but they made such a big deal about connecting it to Year One AND The Killing Joke at the same time. Also the art is a bit too sketchy.

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I would have added Loeb to the list, but his character's verbal tics knocked the work down a star or two, in terms of quality. Plus, the art and coloring were not the best in TLH: the women were not drawn too well. Dark Victory, on the other hand, is a different cas (better art and coloring.) Hush had great art, but had a problematic mystery and reveal. Dini did a better job of explaining Hush's motivations (and trying his origins in with Scarecrow.) So, if I had to rank his work, it would be:

-Dark Victory
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