Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns Animated - Part 1

[redfirebird2008]

I'm watching Part 2 right now and I gotta say the guy who did the Reagan voice did an awesome job. Sounds just like him!

[Mace Dolex]

Just got the Bluray/DVD combo today at Target for just $13.99 whoohoo!!

can't wait to watch it today after work.

[spider-neil]

DC should have released Parts 1 and 2 as a movie at the cinema. It's absolutely incredible. I have to say the animated increased my understanding of the graphic novel as it flows better and showed me things I'd missed. I'm reading the graphic novel now. All due respect to Moore's Watchman but I think the TDKR is the best graphic novel ever written.

[spider-neil]

Just a note that it's a shame people are downloading these animated movies for free. More than anything else these animated movies production is dictated by sales so if the sales go down because of downloading then the production of these animated movies will stop. DC make a movie every three months it's not to much money to actually purchase these things rather than watch them for free.

[BH/HHH]

Originally Posted by spider-neil

Just a note that it's a shame people are downloading these animated movies for free. More than anything else these animated movies production is dictated by sales so if the sales go down because of downloading then the production of these animated movies will stop. DC make a movie every three movies it's not to much money to actually purchase these things rather than watch them for free.

I don't think its bad if they are willing to buy it aferwards though/

[Mace Dolex]

Wow this one is just incredible, it flowed just perfectly from the voice acting to the animation, I noticed also a slight hint of Hans Zimmer's vibe in the music too. Especially was surprised they didn't hold back on Joker's murderous rampage at the fair adding bits that weren't in the GN, too bad they couldn't add the Dr. Ruth Westheimer clone getting killed.

[BH/HHH]

I just rewatched it for the 2nd time and I still love it, definitely the best DC animated film yet.

My favourite moment is still Superman saving that blind guy been hit by a train, it was just so well Superman lol

[Ultimatehero]

1) TDKR, 2) TDKReturns, 3) BB, 4) TDK

Yep. TDKReturns was seriously awesome and definitely agree with the above comment that this should have been in theaters. It was just a really outstanding film.

[Franny]

LOL at Reagan. Loved the "good news and bad news" sequence. Shame we had to lose the inner monologue, but it wouldn't had worked in this medium and would had been so wrong to attempt the characters' stating some of it out loud.
Excellent adaptation. Although I heard that the sequel from Miller isn't as good, maybe it would an adaptation into animated form? Not having read' I couldn't begin to guess.

[BH/HHH]

Originally Posted by Franny

LOL at Reagan. Loved the "good news and bad news" sequence. Shame we had to lose the inner monologue, but it wouldn't had worked in this medium and would had been so wrong to attempt the characters' stating some of it out loud.
Excellent adaptation. Although I heard that the sequel from Miller isn't as good, maybe it would an adaptation into animated form? Not having read' I couldn't begin to guess.

The Dark Knight Strikes Again is terrible, I'd say read it just to see how bad it is. It wouldn't work in animation at all and I doubt they'd even consider adapting it.

[A Necessary Evil]

I hope not. TDKSA is garbage and I don't know what the hell Miller was thinking. It gave us the best batman quote ever though.

[BlueLightning]

Originally Posted by A Necessary Evil

I hope not. TDKSA is garbage and I don't know what the hell Miller was thinking. It gave us the best batman quote ever though.

"Striking terror. Best part of the job"?

[FCEEVIPER]

Part 2 was amazing, just perfect. I don't know where Tim and Co and go from here.

[BH/HHH]

Originally Posted by FCEEVIPER

Part 2 was amazing, just perfect. I don't know where Tim and Co and go from here.

Well he wasn't involved with Superman Unbound, not that that's a bad thing James Tucker knows Superman better I think.

On part 2, here's my official review:

http://simplysupermanbatman.wordpres...urns-part-2-2/

[spider-neil]

Shot me down in flames but I enjoyed The Dark Knight Returns more than BB, TDK and The Dark Knight Rises. If they release a 3 hour cut with the voice over included then I think you will have Batman perfection.

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by BH/HHH

The Dark Knight Strikes Again is terrible, I'd say read it just to see how bad it is. It wouldn't work in animation at all and I doubt they'd even consider adapting it.

I hope they adapt The Dark Knight Strikes Back because I've read it 3 times and I can't make heads or tails of it.

[The Joker]

Part 2 was insanely good. I loved it. They really did not hold back on the Joker's violence. The carnival scene was just....WOW! I loved Emerson's voice as the Joker. He was terrific.

The Batman vs Superman fight was so well done. In the falling snow it made for a great atmosphere. I got a lump in my throat when

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

Alfred dropped dead outside of the burning Wayne Manor

Overall these are the best animated Batman movies yet. Even better than Under the Red Hood, and that takes some doing.

[A Necessary Evil]

Originally Posted by BlueLightning

"Striking terror. Best part of the job"?

My mistake. I was thinking of all star batman and robin.

[BlueLightning]

Originally Posted by A Necessary Evil

My mistake. I was thinking of all star batman and robin.

You mean the infamous: "I'm the goddamn Batman"? I don't like it, but I have grown to refer to this Miller's Batman incarnation as that.

[spidermanJLA!~]

Sorry to rain on everyone's parade, but every thread needs a little polite debate right?
I for one, was not a fan of this film at all. Mostly because it's just not my style. Batman, imo, was way too psycho. He's just a stubborn, annoying old man with no emotion at all. I found him very dis-likable. Joker, while I thought that the violence was way too much, made sense in the context and he got what he deserved. However, I was rooting for Commissioner Yindel during the shooting scenes.
(And btw, no one in this movie can shoot, so many misses) Now again I'm really reviewing the story, so you could say I'm reviewing the book, not the film, but still. Superman getting energy from plants makes sense, but was way too over the top. And then a plane just randomly falls to the ground from a nuclear explosion. Then Batman wakes up and rides on a horse to an army. It all makes sense, but it was just a bunch if stuff happening at once. Imo, this is in nooo way the best DCAM and I'll take Red Hood over this anyday.

PS. Just my opinion.

[BH/HHH]

Originally Posted by spidermanJLA!~

Sorry to rain on everyone's parade, but every thread needs a little polite debate right?
I for one, was not a fan of this film at all. Mostly because it's just not my style. Batman, imo, was way too psycho. He's just a stubborn, annoying old man with no emotion at all. I found him very dis-likable. Joker, while I thought that the violence was way too much, made sense in the context and he got what he deserved. However, I was rooting for Commissioner Yindel during the shooting scenes.
(And btw, no one in this movie can shoot, so many misses) Now again I'm really reviewing the story, so you could say I'm reviewing the book, not the film, but still. Superman getting energy from plants makes sense, but was way too over the top. And then a plane just randomly falls to the ground from a nuclear explosion. Then Batman wakes up and rides on a horse to an army. It all makes sense, but it was just a bunch if stuff happening at once. Imo, this is in nooo way the best DCAM and I'll take Red Hood over this anyday.

PS. Just my opinion.

That's fair enough, everything's not for everyone

Like me for instance I personally thought the films were better than the book.

[ElToro]

Originally Posted by spider-neil

DC should have released Parts 1 and 2 as a movie at the cinema. It's absolutely incredible. I have to say the animated increased my understanding of the graphic novel as it flows better and showed me things I'd missed. I'm reading the graphic novel now. All due respect to Moore's Watchman but I think the TDKR is the best graphic novel ever written.

I can see where your going with this statement do to the fact that maybe the Millers TDKR is a lot more darker and so badass. I think both TDKR and Watchmen are different, yet they do have some things that are the same. Fighting against the government, coming back from retirement, but i feel like TDKR feels real. I think because batman just dosent have any powers makes the story a bit more interesting, more riveting. But you cant go wrong with the watchmen story. Its different because i feel like Dr. manhattan makes the story different. Its the only man with powers, while everyone else dosent have powers. in the end, i think there both very great storys by both of them.

[A Necessary Evil]

Originally Posted by BlueLightning

You mean the infamous: "I'm the goddamn Batman"? I don't like it, but I have grown to refer to this Miller's Batman incarnation as that.

Neither of Miller's work there either, but that line is just...

[shauner111]

Originally Posted by spidermanJLA!~

Sorry to rain on everyone's parade, but every thread needs a little polite debate right?
I for one, was not a fan of this film at all. Mostly because it's just not my style. Batman, imo, was way too psycho. He's just a stubborn, annoying old man with no emotion at all. I found him very dis-likable. Joker, while I thought that the violence was way too much, made sense in the context and he got what he deserved. However, I was rooting for Commissioner Yindel during the shooting scenes.
(And btw, no one in this movie can shoot, so many misses) Now again I'm really reviewing the story, so you could say I'm reviewing the book, not the film, but still. Superman getting energy from plants makes sense, but was way too over the top. And then a plane just randomly falls to the ground from a nuclear explosion. Then Batman wakes up and rides on a horse to an army. It all makes sense, but it was just a bunch if stuff happening at once. Imo, this is in nooo way the best DCAM and I'll take Red Hood over this anyday.

PS. Just my opinion.

I disagree with you but fair enough.

IMO Red Hood was only OK. A few cool scenes but it wasn't anything special at all to me. TDKReturns part 1 & 2 are definately my favorite DCAM's at the moment. I even enjoyed it more than Mask of the Phantasm. Ill put Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker right behind TDKR.

This is honestly my favorite Batman. When he's miserable but still doing good (just in a twisted way). Stubborn is another thing that i love about Batman, even when it gets frustrating at times.

[spidermanJLA!~]

Originally Posted by shauner111

I disagree with you but fair enough.

IMO Red Hood was only OK. A few cool scenes but it wasn't anything special at all to me. TDKReturns part 1 & 2 are definately my favorite DCAM's at the moment. I even enjoyed it more than Mask of the Phantasm. Ill put Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker right behind TDKR.

This is honestly my favorite Batman. When he's miserable but still doing good (just in a twisted way). Stubborn is another thing that i love about Batman, even when it gets frustrating at times.

I respect that, but that's where our opinions differ. I prefer a less tortured Batman.