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Old 01-07-2013, 01:26 PM   #1
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Default Dark Avengers - Blazing Logos

When a dark avenger leaves a blazing logo.
It's become a common and recognizable trope in movies, but I'm wondering how common?

(1939) - Zorro leaves his mark in- Zorro's Fighting Legion
Lighting up a hill side with a giant "Z' as warning to his enemies he's coming after them, and as a sort of signal for Zorro and the "Legion" to assemble.
(Proto Bat-Signal?)



(1994) - Used to great effect in the Crow.


(1998) -The Mask of Zorro. This scene is a straight homage to the (1939) Zorro's Fighting Legion.


Also used extensively in the opening credits. And again in The Legend of Zorro (2005) promos - https://i.imgur.com/fa0PpPT.jpg
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(2003) - The Devil leaves his mark.


(2004) - The Punisher, rather elaborate setup, when and how he took the time?


(2005) - FF. Not really dark avengers, but definitely follows the same trope. (Although well established in the comics first, anyone know when it first appeared?)


(2005) - V for Vendetta, - Opening credits a flaming V logo is used.

In the scene where he introduces himself to Evey, he slashes a "V" into a street poster, homage to Zorro's classic "Z" mark. - http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs5/2633939_o.gif
And in the grand finally the fireworks create a giant blazing "V"


(2008) - In The Dark Knight they somewhat used the idea for the ad campaign and poster.


(2012) - And finally physically appears full blown in Dark Knight Rises...


Any others ?
Was it in X-Men did Phoenix ever make a flaming symbol? Ghost Rider? Hellboy?


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Old 01-07-2013, 09:52 PM   #2
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Geez, I always thought it was really cool...now that you've pointed out how often it happens I kind of feel the next time someone does it will be an eye-rolling moment.

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Old 01-09-2013, 01:49 PM   #3
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Geez, I always thought it was really cool...now that you've pointed out how often it happens I kind of feel the next time someone does it will be an eye-rolling moment.
Yeah it was pretty eye-rolley when it finally did show up in Dark Knight Rises, heck it was already played out when Punisher and DD did it after just seeing it in The Crow & Zorro, I was surprised to see Nolan go to it.
Still it's an awesome visual, and the trope persists, there's probably even more I'm missing.


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Old 01-09-2013, 09:39 PM   #4
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At least with the FF and Zorro it doesn't seem to take that long. Johnny Storm can zoom around in a few seconds and make a giant flaming 4, Zorro could probably have whipped a big ol' flaming Z up in about a minute. I guess DareDevil's one wouldn't have taken terribly long either. Others though, like Batman's and Punisher's, those probably took what? Half an hour at the very least, maybe an hour if not more. Surely those guys have better things to do.

"Hey Batman it's Gordon...so the whole city is under the control of a mad terrorist and everyone's freaking out and dying and oh the drama, think you can get on down here real quick?"

"No problem Jim, just gimmie like...another twenty minutes to finish the left wing here."

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Isn't the Fantastic Four one actually Johnny's symbol to let the other three know to come to that place, (sort of like the Bat signal) and not a "calling card?" I know that's how it was used in the comics, don't remember exactly regarding the movies.

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Batman's and Punisher's, those probably took what? Half an hour at the very least, maybe an hour if not more. Surely those guys have better things to do.

"Hey Batman it's Gordon...so the whole city is under the control of a mad terrorist and everyone's freaking out and dying and oh the drama, think you can get on down here real quick?"

"No problem Jim, just gimmie like...another twenty minutes to finish the left wing here."


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Isn't the Fantastic Four one actually Johnny's symbol to let the other three know to come to that place, (sort of like the Bat signal) and not a "calling card?" I know that's how it was used in the comics, don't remember exactly regarding the movies.
Sure, that's why I wrote "...a giant "Z' as warning to his enemies he's coming after them, and as a sort of signal for Zorro and the "Legion" to assemble.
(Proto Bat-Signal?" ) the original Zorro's Fighting Legion one was used to both ends, hence the running theme.
To call his Legion to a spot when he needed them to assemble, and simultaneously as symbol not just to his enemies to let them know that he's out there watching them, but also to the people he protects, that he's out there watching over them.

It seems to serve several ends.
Since everyone can see it - allies, villains, and also the general populace, hence the impact.

Here is yet another instance- I guess Superman got in on it too?

(2009) - From Smallville
LOL is that a reverse "Z"?


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Awesome gif versions.

















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Yes, I really very enjoy to watch this great Movie. The Story of this movie is too interesting and enjoyable.

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Old 02-18-2013, 04:26 AM   #9
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Yes, I really very enjoy to watch this great Movie. The Story of this movie is too interesting and enjoyable.
Wait, which story, what movie?


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The flaming 4 first appears in Fantastic 4 #1.
Oddly enough though, it wasn't created by johnny, but a special flare gun reed created.

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The flaming 4 first appears in Fantastic 4 #1.
Oddly enough though, it wasn't created by johnny, but a special flare gun reed created.


Awesome thanks for the refrance.
(1961) - FF#1 the flare-gun would have been the then modern equivelent of it.
I wonder when Johnny was first depicted lighting up the four hmself?

As far as comics, this just comes out today.


There's probably many more in the comics, I seem to remember Green Lantern Alan Scott using it, although I'm not finding the image.
I liked how his tended to be depicted as burning mystic flames rather than hard light like those in the Corps, not sure if they still do that?


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Old 02-20-2013, 10:33 PM   #12
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Some more extended gifs references.

- The (1939) Zorro blazing "Z" on the hillside possible precursor to the Batsignal-




And the (1998) referenced again -


The grand finally explosion and fireworks from "V" (2005)


Daredevil (2003)


Punisher (2004)




Smallville (2009)

Clark Kent leaves a scorching S
Again Clark Kent is hardly the "Dark Avenger" type, though the season where they apparently explore his darker side and dress him in flowing black, is when the familiar trope ominously appears.
They seem to go hand in hand.

Dark Knight Rises (2012) -


Help find any more!


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(2014) - and it's back Arkham Knight game...



Used to awesome effect, atributed to Azrael found throughout the side mission.

Any others..?


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