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Old 02-18-2013, 03:45 AM   #101
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Ford returning to the role of Han Solo doesn't mean the acting or the movie will be good. Anyone remember the last Indiana Jones movie??
Only Ford was amazing as Indy in Crystal Skull. The acting was the least of that movie's problems.

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Old 02-18-2013, 03:46 AM   #102
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Yea, because that wouldn't forever taint the OT more than it already has been or anything...
Killing him off to kill him off would indeed taint Ep7 (not the OT). But if it's poignant and serves the story and a theme, then I don't see what's the problem.

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Am I the only one who finds the idea of seeing old, fat, decrepit Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher, and Harrison Ford showing up 30 years later as "Luke", "Leia", and "Han" depressing?
They're old, and so are their characters. It's not like we're getting a "Roger Moore in the last 2-3 Bond flicks" deal here.

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Old 02-18-2013, 03:49 AM   #104
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I know it's part of his arc and all, but no one wants to see Solo say those three words to Princess Leia.
Speak for yourself, please.

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Old 02-18-2013, 04:28 AM   #105
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I don't get the bloodlust. Solo's one of the most well-liked characters in film history, and after waiting 30+ years, he's killed off? Someone mentioned Chewie dying, and that makes a lot more sense to me.

Instead of having Solo go out in a blaze of glory, he needs to not be a p*ssy. I hate to say it, but in ROTJ, he was becoming a little too sentimental. I know it's part of his arc and all, but no one wants to see Solo say those three words to Princess Leia.

Also, while Hamill is getting into shape, that's a hell of an uphill battle for Carrie Fisher. Leia did a lot of death sticks in the past 30 years.
It's not so much about bloodlust, but I think there needs to be a transition to a newer generation because lets face it the principle cast members are in their 60's and 70's now, produces can't be relying on them to take the series forward to episode X and beyond. Solo especially is that one that has to be killed off I feel, at least the first one.

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Old 02-18-2013, 04:49 AM   #106
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Han somewhere during Ep7. Luke at the end of Ep9. Leia whenever.

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Old 02-18-2013, 05:48 AM   #107
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I don't get the bloodlust. Solo's one of the most well-liked characters in film history, and after waiting 30+ years, he's killed off? Someone mentioned Chewie dying, and that makes a lot more sense to me.

Instead of having Solo go out in a blaze of glory, he needs to not be a p*ssy. I hate to say it, but in ROTJ, he was becoming a little too sentimental. I know it's part of his arc and all, but no one wants to see Solo say those three words to Princess Leia.

Also, while Hamill is getting into shape, that's a hell of an uphill battle for Carrie Fisher. Leia did a lot of death sticks in the past 30 years.
Carrie Fisher got crazy skinny and looks good

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Old 02-18-2013, 05:51 AM   #108
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Are there any recent pics of her and Mark?

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Old 02-18-2013, 11:14 AM   #109
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I don't think wanting to see any of the OT characters killed of is "blood lust". It's just a natural progression of their stories and some fans want to see it handled in a meaningful way. Star Wars isn't Marvel or DC where the characters just live forever.

Personally I'm not fussed one way or the other. If they're killed off and do it well, great. If they don't kill them off and leave it an open ended question, or leave it to the EU, that's cool too.
They should be left open ended. They don't have to die on screen in order for it to naturally progress. They could simply hand the reins over to the next generation.

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Old 02-18-2013, 12:07 PM   #110
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As a huge Han Solo fan, this news is terrific. I still want a confirmation from Lucasfilm and Disney though, but if Ford does reprise his role I think the new trilogy would already be amazing, at least to this fan. I hope Hamill and Fisher will follow suit shortly.

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Old 02-18-2013, 01:34 PM   #111
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I just don't understand the love/devotion to these actors who aren't even that good. Harrison Ford is the best of them, but Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher aren't exactly winning Oscars, and there are so many better (and younger) actors out there who would be great in these parts and would do a better job than the original trio.

So we really want the old cast back--for what? So we can see a version of characters we love in their 60's and 70's just so the actors can reprise the roles?

I love the characters, not the actors. They barely resemble the characters they played thirty years ago, and the last thing I want is this huge, unexplained gap between what happened in the last movie to their lives as senior citizens. At best, we'll get a story where the original trio play the roles of spiritual guides to a younger group, instead of what we could have, which is a movie where Luke, Han and Leia come back as the main heroes.

Trekkies let go of Shatner for the 2009 Star Trek movie...why can't we let go of the original trio for a new Star Wars sequel?

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I just don't understand the love/devotion to these actors who aren't even that good. Harrison Ford is the best of them, but Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher aren't exactly winning Oscars, and there are so many better (and younger) actors out there who would be great in these parts and would do a better job than the original trio.

So we really want the old cast back--for what? So we can see a version of characters we love in their 60's and 70's just so the actors can reprise the roles?

I love the characters, not the actors. They barely resemble the characters they played thirty years ago, and the last thing I want is this huge, unexplained gap between what happened in the last movie to their lives as senior citizens. At best, we'll get a story where the original trio play the roles of spiritual guides to a younger group, instead of what we could have, which is a movie where Luke, Han and Leia come back as the main heroes.

Trekkies let go of Shatner for the 2009 Star Trek movie...why can't we let go of the original trio for a new Star Wars sequel?
That statement would be true if it wasn't for the fact that Trekkies didn't let go of Nimoy.

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I just don't understand the love/devotion to these actors who aren't even that good. Harrison Ford is the best of them, but Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher aren't exactly winning Oscars, and there are so many better (and younger) actors out there who would be great in these parts and would do a better job than the original trio.

So we really want the old cast back--for what? So we can see a version of characters we love in their 60's and 70's just so the actors can reprise the roles?

I love the characters, not the actors. They barely resemble the characters they played thirty years ago, and the last thing I want is this huge, unexplained gap between what happened in the last movie to their lives as senior citizens. At best, we'll get a story where the original trio play the roles of spiritual guides to a younger group, instead of what we could have, which is a movie where Luke, Han and Leia come back as the main heroes.

Trekkies let go of Shatner for the 2009 Star Trek movie...why can't we let go of the original trio for a new Star Wars sequel?
Because the characters are very crucial to the story. You can't have a theme of "passing on what has been learned" if the people who are supposed to be passing it on are not in the film.

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Because the characters are very crucial to the story. You can't have a theme of "passing on what has been learned" if the people who are supposed to be passing it on are not in the film.
Okay...so everyone seems pretty content on having Luke, Leia and Han as cameo spiritual guides instead of main leads because we want back actors who barely look like the characters they once played.

And Nimoy had a small cameo role in ST09, simply because ST happens to have time travel as one of their plot devices. That won't happen in Star Wars (probably not, at least).

And Batman or any other iconic character would make a good example of my point, not just ST--it's not the actors that are fundamental to the universe, it's the characters.

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I agree.

My only concern is Ford being fit enough for the action scenes.

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I agree.

My only concern is Ford being fit enough for the action scenes.
Well there is a thing called stunt doubles as well. And more importantly Han Solo has never been as "physical" as Indy was. And if he could do Indy 5 years ago, he could still easily do Han. Mainly Han is known for his blaster shooting, and flying the Falcon. I doubt he will have anything more than that. Mark will have to be getting in shape if he is doing any lightsaber fighting which is the most intense stuff being done. The majority of the action I'm sure will be with the new cast. Except maybe Luke he might have some more to do in there.

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Carrie Fisher got crazy skinny and looks good
That voice, though...

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That voice, though...
They'll probably tweak it some in post...or get James Earl Jones to do her voice. Which I'd be down for.

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I agree.

My only concern is Ford being fit enough for the action scenes.
For a man his age, he is fit and can get fitter for Han. And if you saw 'Cowboys & Aliens', he still can rock a vest and high boots!

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Carrie got super skinny in 2004-2005. I'm sure she can do it again (if she lays off the boozes and el-drugos......snark-snark-snark!)

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Old 02-18-2013, 06:05 PM   #124
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I believe she already has lost a lot. I remember less than a year ago she was on some talk show and she had lost a ton of weight.

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Well it seems she lost 50 pounds in 2011. She looks pretty good there.

I wouldn't worry that much. Diets only really work for a year so hopefully she stays committed. Not to mention, movie magic will make her look better.

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