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Old 02-19-2013, 02:22 AM   #26
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old casting choices, but i'd really love to see paul bettany, tim roth or vincent cassel as the joker :






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Usually I understand why people suggest Elba in various roles (like Bond) but I don't really see him as Batman / Bruce Wayne. It is pretty tedious when Elba gets suggested for every role ever with seemingly little thought put into it.

Little thought into it?

- Great actor
- Excellent physique for the role
- A star but not someone who's too famous
- Can do the voice without going over the top.

I don't believe you properly thought out your response before you typed the above.

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Old 02-19-2013, 03:08 AM   #28
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oooh, I like that Paul Bettany look. With the shaved eyebrows

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Old 02-19-2013, 08:01 AM   #29
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Little thought into it?

- Great actor
- Excellent physique for the role
- A star but not someone who's too famous
- Can do the voice without going over the top.

I don't believe you properly thought out your response before you typed the above.
He'll be too old by the time the franchise starts anyway.

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Old 02-19-2013, 09:55 AM   #30
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I may get laughed at for this, but I wouldn't be against Joshua Jackson as Bruce Wayne. But, that's just me.

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I may get laughed at for this, but I wouldn't be against Joshua Jackson as Bruce Wayne. But, that's just me.
He's got the acting chops; its just a matter of if he can project the right demeanor.

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Old 02-19-2013, 09:45 PM   #32
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I mean no offense in any way, but how would Elba play Bruce Wayne? Isn't it a requirement for him to be white? I agree, he would make an awesome Batman, I just don't see how it would work out. However, he could make the perfect Black Panther, who is pretty similar to Batman in his demeanor.

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I mean no offense in any way, but how would Elba play Bruce Wayne? Isn't it a requirement for him to be white? I agree, he would make an awesome Batman, I just don't see how it would work out. However, he could make the perfect Black Panther, who is pretty similar to Batman in his demeanor.
Nick Fury's black in the movies/ ultimate comics.

Why can't Bruce Wayne be black?

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Nick Fury's black in the movies/ ultimate comics.

Why can't Bruce Wayne be black?
i actually think denzel washington would make a good black batman if they ever went the nick fury route.

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Old 02-19-2013, 10:49 PM   #35
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Nick Fury's black in the movies/ ultimate comics.

Why can't Bruce Wayne be black?
Maybe because that's the way hes been portrayed in literally every appearance of Batman in comics and other media...? Why change his race for the hell of it? So pointless when there are tons of white actors that look the part and would knock the role out of the park.

The Nick Fury comparison doesnt make sense. Nick Fury is black in the Ultimate Universe, so the Avengers film is based on the comics. Batman isn't ever black, it would go against every incarnation of Batman...and for nothing. Idris Elba as Batman is not a good idea. wtf

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Old 02-19-2013, 10:55 PM   #36
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Joker: Javier Bardem
Riddler: Johnny Lee Miller
Hugo Strange : Ben Kingsley
Penguin/Oswald Cobblepot: Edward Hermann
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Maybe because that's the way hes been portrayed in literally every appearance of Batman in comics and other media...? Why change his race for the hell of it? So pointless when there are tons of white actors that look the part and would knock the role out of the park.

The Nick Fury comparison doesnt make sense. Nick Fury is black in the Ultimate Universe, so the Avengers film is based on the comics. Batman isn't ever black, it would go against every incarnation of Batman...and for nothing. Idris Elba as Batman is not a good idea. wtf
But black Nick Fury in the Ultimate universe goes against every incarnation of Nick Fury prior....

The ultimate universe is not canon to the 616 universe, the same way the films aren't canon to DC's Earth-0 universe.

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I personally like for superheroes in film to look like the comics. That's a lot of the appeal for me. It's obviously not for you, maybe you don't read the comics, but I enjoy it when characters on film look like their comic book counterparts. When they don't, the casting director isn't doing their job right. Unless the actor is the absolute best fit for the role.. which I don't think Elba is.


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Old 02-19-2013, 11:13 PM   #39
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I guess the difference is is that when they debuted Black Nick Fury, they still white Nick Fury. Black Nick Fury didn't replace white Nick Fury in the regular continuity.

we don't have multiple Batman movie franchises going on at the same time to give viewers the option.

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Old 02-19-2013, 11:27 PM   #41
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I've only got 3 for now

Guy Pearce - Gordon

Joaquin Phoenix - Riddler

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There is a much, much simpler explanation for why Elba would be a bad pick: because a black Batman means a black Bruce Wayne. Which is, itself, not a problem. . . except that the Waynes have been the Princes of Gotham for generations. It stretches credibility well past the breaking point to have a black family as the pinnacle of society in mid 1800s faux-New York/Chicago.

Which is no disrespect for Idris Elba, he's one of those actors where if he wants to play a role, unless the ethnicity would literally be unworkable, rewrite the race of the character to fit the actor. Batman just isn't one of those where you can really do that.

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Its hard to say...its most likely at least 4 years down the road so the actor that gets it may well be in T.V. commercials at this point, or, not even acting at all.

But, if I had to pick a few for today, it would be jon hamm, gosling, and tom ( gasp ) hardy. never really saw his face, except for a second.
I think he would be awesome and own the role..

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There is a much, much simpler explanation for why Elba would be a bad pick: because a black Batman means a black Bruce Wayne. Which is, itself, not a problem. . . except that the Waynes have been the Princes of Gotham for generations. It stretches credibility well past the breaking point to have a black family as the pinnacle of society in mid 1800s faux-New York/Chicago.

Which is no disrespect for Idris Elba, he's one of those actors where if he wants to play a role, unless the ethnicity would literally be unworkable, rewrite the race of the character to fit the actor. Batman just isn't one of those where you can really do that.
I think a black Bruce Wayne could work for a re-imagined version of the character. In that sense , its not unworkable. All the stuff from the 1800's wouldn't have to be incorporated into a film because it would be its own version, not Nolan's or a comic book so the generational arguement isn't enough to make the concept in unworkable.

There are rich black families , and for all we know they could be new money instead of old money, just for the sake of arguement. Even if it wasn't you would have to bring it up because that's stuff that basically only die hard fans really know or care about anyway, and the GA isn't gonna ask questions about the Wayne family tree.

As for Elba as Batman in a re-imagined version of the character, I'm not so sure.

Now whether it should be done is in the eye of the beholder .

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Old 02-21-2013, 12:25 PM   #45
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Am just going to come out and say it...

I don't want Batman to be black. I'm not racist, I'm just a simple-minded purist in that regard.

Like I would hate if a white actor played Blade.

I want to find actors who look the part and can perform the part.
There are actors out there who fit both those criteria's.

Was I miffed about Joker being painted? A bit.
Was I miffed Lois Lane was ginger? A bit.

But I found excuses why it's OK.
Joker could have been painted white for all everybody knew in his first appearance, because it wasn't until later it showed he fell into chemicals.
And Lois WAS a red head back in the day.

Perry White being black?
Didn't bother me, because I knew his introduction into comics was via radio, so he could have been any race or whatever.

But those characters have never had a definite iconic look, not for people to really care.

But characters, Batman and Superman are white, they have features that are memorable. They are iconic in every regard. So therefore, some of us, not all of us want to see actors who look like or close to the comics.

And I believe Batman should be played by a white actor, just I believe Blade should be played by a black actor. Because that is an iconic character with an iconic look.

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Old 02-21-2013, 12:46 PM   #46
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Am just going to come out and say it...

I don't want Batman to be black. I'm not racist, I'm just a simple-minded purist in that regard.

Like I would hate if a white actor played Blade.

I want to find actors who look the part and can perform the part.
There are actors out there who fit both those criteria's.

Was I miffed about Joker being painted? A bit.
Was I miffed Lois Lane was ginger? A bit.

But I found excuses why it's OK.
Joker could have been painted white for all everybody knew in his first appearance, because it wasn't until later it showed he fell into chemicals.
And Lois WAS a red head back in the day.

Perry White being black?
Didn't bother me, because I knew his introduction into comics was via radio, so he could have been any race or whatever.

But those characters have never had a definite iconic look, not for people to really care.

But characters, Batman and Superman are white, they have features that are memorable. They are iconic in every regard. So therefore, some of us, not all of us want to see actors who look like or close to the comics.

And I believe Batman should be played by a white actor, just I believe Blade should be played by a black actor. Because that is an iconic character with an iconic look.
While I would be open to seeing a different take on the characters , including race , I can understand those who would want to maintain the establish general look of certain characters. You're arguement is actually the arguement I've been waiting to see on ths board ,because its the strongest position and makes the most sense imo.

The other arguements i've seen for not having Fishburne as Perry or a woman as Jimmy for example, usually fall apart often imo because they're based on weak foundations and overly complicated explanations.

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While I would be open to seeing a different take on the characters , including race , I can understand those who would want to maintain the establish general look of certain characters. You're arguement is actually the arguement I've been waiting to see on ths board ,because its the strongest position and makes the most sense imo.

The other arguements i've seen for not having Fishburne as Perry or a woman as Jimmy for example, usually fall apart often imo because they're based on weak foundations and overly complicated explanations.
Does anyone remember if there was any fallout or comments about Billy Dee Williams being Harvey Dent in Batman 89?

I never really hear anything about it, but it's interesting because it would seem like people would have been up in arms about it.

Also (although that version never made it to the screen) Marlon Wayons was actually cast as Robin before Joel took over for Burton.....

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Does anyone remember if there was any fallout or comments about Billy Dee Williams being Harvey Dent in Batman 89?

I never really hear anything about it, but it's interesting because it would seem like people would have been up in arms about it.

Also (although that version never made it to the screen) Marlon Wayons was actually cast as Robin before Joel took over for Burton.....
There may have been fans who didn't like it , but then again , most of the outrage at the time was at Keaton getting the role. Plus, Dent wasn't a well known character to the mainstream public in 1989 and Billy Dee was a popular actor. To tell you the truth , I doubt the GA would have been up in arms about it.

For one , you didn't have the internet then so fans couldn't moan or mobilize over something that obscure in those days. The Keaton thing caused heat because it was such a major casting story.

Alot of the outrage toward casting choices among fans today is fuelled by the ability of fans, websites, bloggers, pundits, etc to speculate and react to certain choices of the production online via messageboards, twitter and everything else. You didn't have that in 1989. You had letter writing and probably fans who all read comics, or magazines, or where at comic book shops who would probably talk about it or moan about it but other than that no one else woulda given a damn back in 89.

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Let's start with some villains!!! Okay gang, here's what I've ALWAYS had in mind. With long thoughts and consideration, I feel these would be great choices:

Alan Rickman as Hugo Strange


Geoffrey Rush as Oswald Cobblepot


Walton Goggins as The Riddler


Giancarlo Esposito as Mr. Freeze


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Batman/Bruce Wayne - Richard Armitage


Alfred Pennyworth - John Cleese


The Joker - David Tennant


Harley Quinn - Alice Eve


Clayface/Matt Hagen - Arnold Schwarzenegger


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