FF2 - Too early for Franklin and Valeria?

Silvermoth · 01-18-2013, 03:24 AM

I think it would be. Valeria is slightly more interesting because of what Millar and Hitch did but I still want the FF to go on exciting adventures and have less of the "have you done your homework" type stories.

Hypestyle · 01-18-2013, 08:39 PM

no kids. Remember Superman Returns.

bubbadoom · 01-20-2013, 08:48 PM

Even if you start the series with them already having their powers I think it's WAY too early to introduce the kids...

Franklin was born in Annual #6 so I am good for waiting till the sixth movie...

**Kelly** · 02-06-2013, 03:22 PM

When they begin working in the Negative Zone there is really no reason not to bring in Franklin.

Human Torch · 02-12-2013, 07:33 PM

I think (if it's an origin film,as I imagine it will be,)they should wait for Franklin,but I would like to see him included at some point.

Spider-Fan · 02-21-2013, 01:54 PM

For Franklin, I think film 2 is fine. Valeria, probably too soon.

psylockolussus · 04-23-2013, 11:32 PM

I think its too early, maybe for the 3rd or 4th film.

ArmsHeldOut · 04-28-2013, 12:35 PM

I'm wary of how Franklin will be portrayed on film though, especially since Marvel's most successful films consistently have a strong influence on the comics (even though it should be the other way around).

Superman Prime · 05-11-2013, 02:56 AM

Naw, keep that little abomination out of the films. Please.

Same goes for the Mary Sue daughter.

**Kelly** · 05-11-2013, 12:29 PM

Hmmmmm.....If they go straight from the last movie, and move on from there....I could see a Franklin by the end of this movie. Take them into the Negative Zone and go from there....HEY, LET'S DO A MALICE STORY LINE.....Yeah....lol, I will wish for the Malice Story line until it happens. ; )

ArmsHeldOut · 05-12-2013, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Superman Prime

Naw, keep that little abomination out of the films. Please.

To the cornfield!!!

Manic · 05-18-2013, 07:35 PM

I'd like to at least see Franklin included in one of the movies. He's been a presence in the Fantastic Four comics longer than many of us have been alive, writers rarely treat him like a burden to the team, and he's one of my favorite supporting characters. He kinda deserves it, even if we have to wait until the second or third movie to get him.

Valeria, though? I like her, but let's not walk before we can run. You gotta introduce the big brother before you can bring in the little sister. Plus having a super genius 3 year old presents a laundry list of issues a live action film would have to address that I don't feel like getting into in this post.

Eddie · 05-18-2013, 08:12 PM

I'd prefer they hold off on Franklin for a few films. I'd prefer that an initial "trilogy" focus on correcting the sins of past films, as it were. In film 1, I'd like a great origin story with a young FF. Franklin simply wouldn't fit there. I'd like for film 2 to be a great Dr. Doom story that gives the villain the script he deserves. Again, Franklin would get in the way (and Reed & Sue's relationship should really still be in an early stage at this point). I could see the 3rd film being a great Silver Surfer/Galactus film that would wash out the bad taste from the last FF film we got. If a pregnancy was set up then I wouldn't mind, though.

Manic · 05-18-2013, 08:59 PM

I know this isn't really the thread for it, but I'd rather get Annihilus than Galactus in a Fan4 movie. I'd prefer the Skrull, too.

**Kelly** · 05-18-2013, 09:39 PM

I believe both Annihilus and the Skrull are owned by Marvel/Disney...

Manic · 05-18-2013, 09:42 PM

Hmm. Props to Marvel for not selling Fox the rights to those villains, but they've just dashed my dreams of the Fan4 going into the Negative Zone in a movie in the near future.

**Kelly** · 05-18-2013, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic

Hmm. Props to Marvel for not selling Fox the rights to those villains, but they've just dashed my dreams of the Fan4 going into the Negative Zone in a movie in the near future.

I could be wrong, but when Whedon was asked why he used neither of the above, it wasn't because he couldn't...it was because there were already too much going on in his movie.

I actually thought that Fox owned all the mutants, along with Doom, Galactus and Silver Surfer...but again, I could totally be wrong.

Eddie · 05-19-2013, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelly

I believe both Annihilus and the Skrull are owned by Marvel/Disney...

Skrulls are in that weird grey area where both studios have a claim to them, like Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, and, apparently, Viper. I'm not sure on Annihilus, but I'd assume Fox has him.

**Kelly** · 05-19-2013, 08:20 AM

Yeah, I think you may be right about Annihilus....

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01-18-2013, 03:24 AM	#1
Silvermoth Side-Kick Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 4,653	FF2 - Too early for Franklin and Valeria? I think it would be. Valeria is slightly more interesting because of what Millar and Hitch did but I still want the FF to go on exciting adventures and have less of the "have you done your homework" type stories. __________________ I am in complete support of Joss Whedon's Quicksilver

01-18-2013, 08:39 PM	#2
Hypestyle Side-Kick Join Date: May 2000 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 4,838	Re: FF2 - Too early for Franklin and Valeria? no kids. Remember Superman Returns.

01-20-2013, 08:48 PM	#3
bubbadoom Side-Kick Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,105	Re: FF2 - Too early for Franklin and Valeria? Even if you start the series with them already having their powers I think it's WAY too early to introduce the kids... Franklin was born in Annual #6 so I am good for waiting till the sixth movie...

02-06-2013, 03:22 PM	#4
Kelly Proud Teacher! SHH! Administrator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 54,594	Re: FF2 - Too early for Franklin and Valeria? When they begin working in the Negative Zone there is really no reason not to bring in Franklin. __________________ "Those who can, do...Those who can do more, teach." Questions about SHH?

02-12-2013, 07:33 PM	#5
Human Torch Ladies call me Torch Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,836	Re: FF2 - Too early for Franklin and Valeria? I think (if it's an origin film,as I imagine it will be,)they should wait for Franklin,but I would like to see him included at some point.

02-21-2013, 01:54 PM	#6
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04-23-2013, 11:32 PM	#7
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04-28-2013, 12:35 PM	#8
ArmsHeldOut Voice of Reason Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,286	Re: FF2 - Too early for Franklin and Valeria? I'm wary of how Franklin will be portrayed on film though, especially since Marvel's most successful films consistently have a strong influence on the comics (even though it should be the other way around).

05-11-2013, 02:56 AM	#9
Superman Prime I go by "Steve" as well. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Metropolis Posts: 7,401	Re: FF2 - Too early for Franklin and Valeria? Naw, keep that little abomination out of the films. Please. Same goes for the Mary Sue daughter.

05-11-2013, 12:29 PM	#10
Kelly Proud Teacher! SHH! Administrator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 54,594	Re: FF2 - Too early for Franklin and Valeria? Hmmmmm.....If they go straight from the last movie, and move on from there....I could see a Franklin by the end of this movie. Take them into the Negative Zone and go from there....HEY, LET'S DO A MALICE STORY LINE.....Yeah....lol, I will wish for the Malice Story line until it happens. ; ) __________________ "Those who can, do...Those who can do more, teach." Questions about SHH?

05-18-2013, 07:35 PM	#12
Manic No Bueno Join Date: May 2005 Location: Northern California Posts: 34,053	Re: FF2 - Too early for Franklin and Valeria? I'd like to at least see Franklin included in one of the movies. He's been a presence in the Fantastic Four comics longer than many of us have been alive, writers rarely treat him like a burden to the team, and he's one of my favorite supporting characters. He kinda deserves it, even if we have to wait until the second or third movie to get him. Valeria, though? I like her, but let's not walk before we can run. You gotta introduce the big brother before you can bring in the little sister. Plus having a super genius 3 year old presents a laundry list of issues a live action film would have to address that I don't feel like getting into in this post. __________________ The Doctor: "SHOUT?! I DON'T SHOUT!! People who have to resort to shouting to get what they want are merely demonstrating the inherent paucity of their argument! It's something THAT I NEVER NEVER--" Peri: "ALRIGHT, DOCTOR!!" The Doctor: "Point made, I think."

05-18-2013, 08:12 PM	#13
Eddie Side-Kick Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 112	Re: FF2 - Too early for Franklin and Valeria? I'd prefer they hold off on Franklin for a few films. I'd prefer that an initial "trilogy" focus on correcting the sins of past films, as it were. In film 1, I'd like a great origin story with a young FF. Franklin simply wouldn't fit there. I'd like for film 2 to be a great Dr. Doom story that gives the villain the script he deserves. Again, Franklin would get in the way (and Reed & Sue's relationship should really still be in an early stage at this point). I could see the 3rd film being a great Silver Surfer/Galactus film that would wash out the bad taste from the last FF film we got. If a pregnancy was set up then I wouldn't mind, though.

05-18-2013, 08:59 PM	#14
Manic No Bueno Join Date: May 2005 Location: Northern California Posts: 34,053	Re: FF2 - Too early for Franklin and Valeria? I know this isn't really the thread for it, but I'd rather get Annihilus than Galactus in a Fan4 movie. I'd prefer the Skrull, too. __________________ The Doctor: "SHOUT?! I DON'T SHOUT!! People who have to resort to shouting to get what they want are merely demonstrating the inherent paucity of their argument! It's something THAT I NEVER NEVER--" Peri: "ALRIGHT, DOCTOR!!" The Doctor: "Point made, I think."

05-18-2013, 09:39 PM	#15
Kelly Proud Teacher! SHH! Administrator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 54,594	Re: FF2 - Too early for Franklin and Valeria? I believe both Annihilus and the Skrull are owned by Marvel/Disney... __________________ "Those who can, do...Those who can do more, teach." Questions about SHH?

05-18-2013, 09:42 PM	#16
Manic No Bueno Join Date: May 2005 Location: Northern California Posts: 34,053	Re: FF2 - Too early for Franklin and Valeria? Hmm. Props to Marvel for not selling Fox the rights to those villains, but they've just dashed my dreams of the Fan4 going into the Negative Zone in a movie in the near future. __________________ The Doctor: "SHOUT?! I DON'T SHOUT!! People who have to resort to shouting to get what they want are merely demonstrating the inherent paucity of their argument! It's something THAT I NEVER NEVER--" Peri: "ALRIGHT, DOCTOR!!" The Doctor: "Point made, I think."

05-19-2013, 08:20 AM	#19
Kelly Proud Teacher! SHH! Administrator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 54,594	Re: FF2 - Too early for Franklin and Valeria? Yeah, I think you may be right about Annihilus.... __________________ "Those who can, do...Those who can do more, teach." Questions about SHH?

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