The Batsuit Thread

[Han Solo]

I kinda want to see some grey added into the mix, a good dark grey mind (like that of the new 52 suit) but It'd be nice to see that given a try.

[Rodrigo90]

Originally Posted by regwec

Yes it would, sorry.

This isn't the 80s anymore. Rubber wetsuits like TDKR/TDK/BB/BAR/BF/BR/B89's are out of date, and there are numerous movies that show fabric-based superhero costumes working extremely well.

It's more or less a rubber wetsuit in the new 52. I see it remaining that way on film. If it wasn't that way in the comics, then there would be something to suggest change. The only potential change I see is the suit being grey.

[regwec]

Change from what in the comics? Batman has never worn a rubber wetsuit in the comics, and he has always worn grey (bar very minor exceptions). Forgive me if I am missing the point, but your post doesn't make much sense to me.

[Rodrigo90]

He wore fabric over armour in the comics, yes.

But now with the new 52, he's wearing a costume inspired by the "rubber wetsuit" from the movies.

And so the only way they can make the costume in the movies more like the comics is by making it grey.

[Shikamaru]

Not mine. Just found it online but I thought it looks pretty cool.

[Rodrigo90]

Id like something based on Cap's suit, yeah.

[godisawesome]

I really don't want to see a Captain America style Batsuit unless they bulk up its armored look and keep the look black. I never really thought of his suit as actually being gray in the same way I never thought of his cowl as blue. Black is his color, and everything else is just texture.

And while lenses may cut down on his emoting ability, but that hasn't stopped the Spider-Man series from doing well. They can just avoid the whole loosing his mask at the finale thing, or at least find a villain like Strange or Al Ghul for whom the whole identity thing is redundant.

[CoolCadaver49]

I just want a non-rubberish suit... Please?

Also, white eyes would be SUPER tough to pull off. I could live without them. I don't much like the New 52 suit. Well, mostly I don't like the yellow belt and the unnecessary lines.

[cryptic name]

Originally Posted by Shikamaru

Not mine. Just found it online but I thought it looks pretty cool.

This is definitely the right direction.

[TheDarkKnight08]

Something like Cap's suit could work. The neck system used for TDK/TDKR could work as well, but with smaller ears. The white eyes, however, I'm not sure would work on screen properly. Lenses overall on the mask, sure, but to have his eyes be white would look weird.

BTW, cryptic name, where'd you get that wonderful avvy?

[regwec]

Originally Posted by godisawesome

I never really thought of his suit as actually being gray in the same way I never thought of his cowl as blue. Black is his color, and everything else is just texture.

It was and is grey, however.

[Bathead]

Originally Posted by regwec

It was and is grey, however.

Yup, the intention from the very beginning was always grey and black.

[RustyCage]

Originally Posted by Shikamaru

Not mine. Just found it online but I thought it looks pretty cool.

Not bad. Probably the closest I've seen to a tolerable non-'rubber' suit.

[Lead Cenobite]

Originally Posted by Rodrigo90

It's more or less a rubber wetsuit in the new 52. I see it remaining that way on film. If it wasn't that way in the comics, then there would be something to suggest change. The only potential change I see is the suit being grey.

What indication is there that the New 52 suit is rubber? Armor doesn't have to be rubber. The main reason they even use rubber in the movies is because it's a middle ground between flexibility and substantiality, and it's not usually acknowledged as being rubber, since plain old rubber isn't exactly body armor material anyway.

In the real world, there's no material that has both flexibility and a level of durability that Batman's suit usually has. Real world body armor is bulky and doesn't work nearly as well as Batman's.

[Rodrigo90]

I know the new 52 suit is based on Nolan's Batsuits, so I assumed the materials came with it lol.

[Bathead]

Originally Posted by Lead Cenobite

What indication is there that the New 52 suit is rubber? Armor doesn't have to be rubber. The main reason they even use rubber in the movies is because it's a middle ground between flexibility and substantiality, and it's not usually acknowledged as being rubber, since plain old rubber isn't exactly body armor material anyway.

In the real world, there's no material that has both flexibility and a level of durability that Batman's suit usually has. Real world body armor is bulky and doesn't work nearly as well as Batman's.

Actually there is a real world material known as "liquid armor", a viscous material sandwiched between layers of fabric (sometimes Nomex IIRC)that has the flexibility of normal cloth until struck by a bullet, whereupon the molecules realign themselves instantaneously into an anti-ballistic hardness. No need for bulky plates and it would allow for the speed and mobility that Batman is known for.

[Rodrigo90]

Yup. It's bullet and knife proof. I hope they use that concept next time.

[cryptic name]

Originally Posted by TheDarkKnight08

Something like Cap's suit could work. The neck system used for TDK/TDKR could work as well, but with smaller ears. The white eyes, however, I'm not sure would work on screen properly. Lenses overall on the mask, sure, but to have his eyes be white would look weird.

BTW, cryptic name, where'd you get that wonderful avvy?

It's from a British "making of" documentary from 1989 called Making of a Hero. You can find it on youtube.

[RustyCage]

Originally Posted by Rodrigo90

I know the new 52 suit is based on Nolan's Batsuits, so I assumed the materials came with it lol.

What?? How so?

[Rodrigo90]

Umm Wikipedia

[RustyCage]

Originally Posted by Rodrigo90

Umm Wikipedia

Can you be more specific?

Where on Wikipedia?

That's so weird, cause there's so little in common between them apart from the typical Batman visage. The only unique feature I can think of between them is maybe the lack of trunks? But Burton had already long-since done that.

[titansupes]

^ Segmented neck? Are the shape of the gauntlet blades the same? Not sure...

EDIT: Nope, not the same blades. The only thing I can think of is that it's segmented armour.

[storyteller]

Originally Posted by Lead Cenobite

What indication is there that the New 52 suit is rubber? Armor doesn't have to be rubber. The main reason they even use rubber in the movies is because it's a middle ground between flexibility and substantiality, and it's not usually acknowledged as being rubber, since plain old rubber isn't exactly body armor material anyway.

In the real world, there's no material that has both flexibility and a level of durability that Batman's suit usually has. Real world body armor is bulky and doesn't work nearly as well as Batman's.

I don't think the new52 suit is rubber. It seems to be a tight cloth over an armor under layer. So it can be torn off with a knife but there is still armor underneath.

[Rodrigo90]

No way is it fabric over amour. That was the old suit. But even this ain't rubber.

[Rodrigo90]

Originally Posted by RustyCage

Can you be more specific?

Where on Wikipedia?

That's so weird, cause there's so little in common between them apart from the typical Batman visage. The only unique feature I can think of between them is maybe the lack of trunks? But Burton had already long-since done that.

This from the Batsuit page on wiki
This Batsuit appears using various elements fromChristopher Nolan's*The Dark Knight Trilogy. Just as in*The Dark Knight, it is made of hardened kevlar plates on titanium-dipped tri-weave fibers and is broken into multiple pieces of armor over a more flexible bodysuit for greater mobility.*