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Old 02-27-2013, 09:27 PM   #451
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They already have sufficient practice not noticing the sudden huge differences in Bruce Banner and James Rhodes. I think the MCU is quite ready for a different Tony by now.

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Old 02-27-2013, 09:29 PM   #452
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I really hate recasting. There is almost nothing in this world that I hate more.

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Old 02-27-2013, 09:33 PM   #453
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Hunger? Poverty? Destitution? Child sex trafficers?

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Old 02-27-2013, 09:36 PM   #454
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I'm not a fan of recasting but if he doesn't comeback for Iron Man 4, I hope they recast him.

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Old 02-27-2013, 09:38 PM   #455
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I'm glad they recast Rhodey. Howard sucks.
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Yeah I really didn't like Howard, I think Cheadle did a much better job.

As for an IM4, if IM3 can hit a billion (which I think it can) then I definitely think there'll he a sequel with RDJ returning
There was nothing airforce about howard. He literally seemed JUST like tony's friend. He had swag, and was like..I don't know..too hip hop. Cheadle is a better actor, yeah, he didn't have the chemistry with RDJ, but look at the movie, when could they have had it in that movie?

That, mixed with the fact that Cheadle was a MUCH better military man than Howard, Cheadle is much better for the role

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Old 02-27-2013, 09:40 PM   #456
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I really hate recasting. There is almost nothing in this world that I hate more.
Well then, you have a pretty good life if THAT is your biggest hate lol

if that was sarcasm, I couldn't pick it up

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Old 02-27-2013, 09:49 PM   #457
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Hunger? Poverty? Destitution? Child sex trafficers?
Only one of those I hate more than recasting.

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Old 02-27-2013, 10:50 PM   #458
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I'd say, wait until Avengers 3 then recast the character since by then, every other major member of the "big three" will have their contracts up as well since they would have had their 6 contract deal done by then.

Plus, I'd like to go into a Phase of the MCU where the actors that we start with are the ones that we end with.

It'd be ridiculously stupid again to start Phase 2 with RDJ and end it with someone else as Tony.

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Old 02-27-2013, 11:11 PM   #459
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Same. I think after Avengers 3 when their contracts are up, most of the lead characters of these phases can take a well-deserved rest while characters like Dr. Strange, Ant-Man, Black Panther, Ms. Marvel, etc. take the spotlight. Shift into sort of the "next generation." After a while, they can bring characters like IM and Thor back into the fray with new actors, should they need to.

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Old 02-28-2013, 05:09 AM   #460
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Why did you respond twice? Are you waiting for me to respond?

If they reboot the entire MCU, I'm okay with someone else playing Tony Stark. But at its current state? No, I don't want to see everyone in the movie just conveniently forget what Tony Stark looked like in the last movie and carry on like nothing happened. Kill him off or have him "retire" from the Avengers if Downey doesn't want to do it any more. I don't want to see someone doing a Robert Downey Jr. impression and telling everyone to squint their eyes and just go with it. I don't him to magically get 10 years younger.
No, it got posted twice for some reason. Still, killing off RDJs Stark or anybody's Tony Stark and calling some Joe Blow guy Iron Man and giving him the armor is a horribly dumb idea.

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Old 02-28-2013, 05:15 AM   #461
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What would be nice after Avengers 3 would be to focus on the new characters, then re-introduce IronMan, Thor, Cap with the new actors.

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Old 02-28-2013, 05:39 AM   #462
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Kevin Feige has already stated that they're going to James Bond it, and that they're not going to re-do the origin. The MCU is too big by now to reboot everything just for one actor who needs replacing.

Like somebody else said, the characters are bigger than the actors.

Ergo, no reboot. Recasting is going to happen, and the MCU and Tony Stark will continue. Touch luck for the guy who'll be Tony Stark next, no doubt, and tough luck for those who don't like recasting. Besides, it'll open the door for new interpretations and can be a good thing.

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Old 02-28-2013, 05:52 AM   #463
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^Yep, Feige said he'll James Bond it. Also, Downy f****** loves this role, and has said he's happy to bounce around between Stark and Holmes for the rest of his career until the bosses/audience tells him to stop. All this "We'll see what happens" business is to create a talking point and to leverage even more money (the man made over $50 Million for Avengers alone) from Disney/Marvel.

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Old 02-28-2013, 06:58 AM   #464
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I can easily deal with him leaving after Avengers 2 or 3 depending on the storytelling. I'd just switch to other movies with him, and ignore the MCU )))))).

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Old 02-28-2013, 07:00 AM   #465
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I can easily deal with him leaving after Avengers 2 or 3 depending on the storytelling. I'd just switch to other movies with him, and ignore the MCU )))))).
So if he goes your no longer interested in the character of Tony/IronMan

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Old 02-28-2013, 08:09 AM   #466
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RDJ is the Johnny Depp and Tom Cruise of the franchise. Just can't do it without him. You aren't going to cast a Kurt Russel to play Han Solo in the new trilogy, or Tom Selleck for Indiana Jones 5.

The Tony Stark in this universe is middle aged. Mid 40's. The government is taking over most of the armor and technology, meaning Iron Man will be obsolete in a couple of years once Stark loses the patent on Arc Reactor technology. Hell hasn't the technology been made public already to power the Avengers building? So that's that.

Unless they want to do another solo trilogy, if they think they have enough stories, I wouldn't bother with it. I think Avengers 2 will be Starks last movie in a major role. I do hope he has a small role in Avengers 3 and Iron Man stays involved. If he is a main guy again, all the merrier. But I don't forsee RDJ doing more than that. IM 4 is very unlikely with all they are packing into IM3, although you never know. Maybe a War Machine/SHIELD spinoff? That would save Marvel some money in terms of the cast.

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I love both Downey as an actor and the Tony Stark character, and would love to see Downey play Stark in perpetuity. However, if Downey IS intent on moving on and/or Disney is unwilling to pay his salary demands, then and only then...

I'm more invested in the concept of Iron Man than the character of Tony Stark. Honestly, I would rather they 'John Blake' it over recast RDJ. While it simply would not work in the Nolanverse, it would in the MCU. Tony Stark is dead. Long live Iron Man.

Preserving MCU continuity is a much higher priority for me than the James Bonding of the Tony Stark character.


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I love both Downey as an actor and the Tony Stark character, and would love to see Downey play Stark in perpetuity. However, if Downey IS intent on moving on and/or Disney is unwilling to pay his salary demands, then and only then...

I'm more invested in the concept of Iron Man than the character of Tony Stark. Honestly, I would rather they 'John Blake' it over recast RDJ. While it simply would not work in the Nolanverse, it would in the MCU. Tony Stark is dead. Long live Iron Man.

Preserving MCU continuity is a much higher priority for me than the James Bonding of the Tony Stark character.
What are you smoking?!

That will never work, that is a Fox move not a Marvel move, they are much smarter than that!

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What are you smoking?!

That will never work, that is a Fox move not a Marvel move, they are much smarter than that!
So I'm assuming you'd prefer they recast Downey? Personal preference, I guess.

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Old 02-28-2013, 08:23 AM   #470
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Iron Man is the one character where it is easiest to introduce a successor. Captain America? That's a no go. Wouldn't be an iconic figure. Thor? He's a God. Hulk? Loses his uniqueness if each successor gets gamma radiated. Iron Man on the other hand? Anybody could get into the suit.

Not saying go with the baby angle, but Rhodes could pick up a movie for Stark, or they can introduce another guy not in the comics. An intern working at Stark Industries. Off ya go. That's how you James Bond the franchise.

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So I'm assuming you'd prefer they recast Downey? Personal preference, I guess.
When RDJ/Marvel feel he is too old/no longer wants to play the part then yes re-cast.

Downey isn't dumb he knows he can't do it for 20years, give him an producing credit so he can help out like Fav in IM3.

It's worked for Bond for 50years .. has for Batman in most cases.

Just like in the comics, each new team of writers and artists give and change the characters to how they see them, why no let another actor have that chance.

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Iron Man is the one character where it is easiest to introduce a successor. Captain America? That's a no go. Wouldn't be an iconic figure. Thor? He's a God. Hulk? Loses his uniqueness if each successor gets gamma radiated. Iron Man on the other hand? Anybody could get into the suit.

Not saying go with the baby angle, but Rhodes could pick up a movie for Stark, or they can introduce another guy not in the comics. An intern working at Stark Industries. Off ya go. That's how you James Bond the franchise.
You've clearly never seen James Bond then have you!?

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I'd love for Downey Jr to voice Tony in an Iron Man animated movie.

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Iron Man is the one character where it is easiest to introduce a successor. Captain America? That's a no go. Wouldn't be an iconic figure. Thor? He's a God. Hulk? Loses his uniqueness if each successor gets gamma radiated. Iron Man on the other hand? Anybody could get into the suit.

Not saying go with the baby angle, but Rhodes could pick up a movie for Stark, or they can introduce another guy not in the comics. An intern working at Stark Industries. Off ya go. That's how you James Bond the franchise.
I suppose you mean that like how, if you were to boil an egg still in its shell in boiling water and then say "Off ya go. That's how you fry an egg"?

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Old 02-28-2013, 08:53 AM   #475
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This franchise is pretty dissimilar to Bond in every way. Contuining themes. Character development. Overarching villains. Reoccuring major supporting characters. It's a self contained story. Even Bond has done this in recent years from Casino Royale to Quantum. Finally they went in another direction with the last Bond. That's the way that franchise has played out. New characters and self contained stories with every entry. Not many analagous things to take from there to here.

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