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Old 03-05-2013, 01:05 PM   #876
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“He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot will be victorious.” - The Art of War
Even that quote from the Art of War, used in this context, implies that MOS would lose a fight with IM3. That's pessimism, not caution. It means you think there's a good change you'll lose.

Caution goes out the window when you have a winning strategy and a winning product.

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It comes out in less than two months. Man of Steel will get the blitzkrieg marketing we all want probably here in the next two to three weeks. Then, you won't be able to escape it.
Eh, it looks like they are waiting until late April or early May to me.

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WB is on a huge losing streak right now. MOS's performance is important.

Superman Returns was marketed like this and it only did okay, well under what WB had hoped for.
Don't worry, they have the next Harry Potter to fall back o.... Wait, they are done with those? Uh-oh.

And people wonder why I question the Hobbit TRILOGY.

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Only the trailers have mentioned his name, fleetingly. And they've also mentioned that Zach Snyder is directing, and that he was the director of 300.
Point? Nolan's name was still utilized.

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Sorry, but the marketing isn't revolving around Nolan. And if someone is in the GA and knows enough about movies to know who Christopher Nolan is, then they are also smart enough to know the difference between a director and a producer.
You'd think that, but yet newbies arrive on this site on a weekly basis thinking that Nolan directed MOS as a producer.

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We shall see how well this "brought to you by the producers of blank" works when Oz hits this week.

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So Doomsday, your position is that the movie needs no marketing or at least very little and due to Nolan's name alone it is a lock to do 300mil or more?

I'm engaging in a bit of hyperbole but not much.

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We shall see how well this "brought to you by the produce of blank" works when Oz hits this week.
Worked fine for Transformers considering Spielberg's name was all over those three films.

 
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I need some MOS news now, or else i´ll start crying....

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Worked fine for Transformers considering Spielberg's name was all over those three films.
No, what worked fine for Transformers was a huge and constant marketing strategy directed at young adult males who like robots, explosions, and Megan Fox making "sexy" poses over motorcycles.

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No, what worked fine for Transformers was a huge and constant marketing strategy directed at young adult males who like robots, explosions, and Megan Fox making "sexy" poses over motorcycles.
OZ has also had a good marketing campaign. It might fail for all I know but Disney didn't half ass it.

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So Doomsday, your position is that the movie needs no marketing or at least very little and due to Nolan's name alone it is a lock to do 300mil or more?

I'm engaging in a bit of hyperbole but not much.
What's different about the marketing that TDK, Inception, and TDKR featured? It was virtually the identical formula/template. Call it what you will, but WB did release a teaser in front of TDKR and a full length trailer in front of The Hobbit. That counts as marketing.

With three months to go and WB desperate (more than ever for a hit), I'm not shaking in my boots about what's coming.

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Has there been viral marketing for this? TDK, Inception and TDKR all had that.

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Has there been viral marketing for this? TDK, Inception and TDKR all had that.
There was the rigged poster release meter. I guess that was "viral," kind of like a plague that sucked the life out of every superman fan involved in it.

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There was the rigged poster release meter. I guess that was "viral," kind of like a plague that sucked the life out of every superman fan involved in it.
That had a lot working against it. The rigged contest, and the crappiness of the poster.

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Our complaints aren't about the future. Our complaints are about the past and present.
The past is the past, and the present constantly changes.

The only thing that worries me is the spot WB decided to place MOS in.

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Has there been viral marketing for this? TDK, Inception and TDKR all had that.
Sooooo the Kryptonian Countdown to the full-length trailer isn't considered a viral?

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Sooooo the Kryptonian Countdown to the full-length trailer isn't considered a viral?
Did that involve any sort of activity on the part of fans? I honestly can't even remember.

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Sooooo the Kryptonian Countdown to the full-length trailer isn't considered a viral?
I don't know what they have done, which is why I am asking.

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What's different about the marketing that TDK, Inception, and TDKR featured? It was virtually the identical formula/template. Call it what you will, but WB did release a teaser in front of TDKR and a full length trailer in front of The Hobbit. That counts as marketing.

With three months to go and WB desperate (more than ever for a hit), I'm not shaking in my boots about what's coming.
TDK and TDKR's are sequels and Inception was the new Matrix and is not a Superhero movie.

We need to be comparing this to 2009's Star Trek, 2005,s Batman Begins and 2006's Superman Returns. You know, reboots?

Usually studios can push a sequel less when the original was successful. So far MOS is being pushed less than sequels like Star Trek 2, Fast 6 and IM3 and even the Hunger Games sequel which comes out in freakin November!

That is odd and super risky. And you keep neglicting to mention that WB was overly confident with the last Superman film and it disappointed and it got good reviews as well.

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Did that involve any sort of activity on the part of fans? I honestly can't even remember.
Yep, and it was fun.

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I don't know what they have done, which is why I am asking.
The Countdown was perhaps the biggest thus far. It was a tad better than TDKR's.

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TDK and TDKR's are sequels and Inception was the new Matrix and is not a Superhero movie.
That shouldn't dilute the films' successes in this marketing scheme. Popular sequels have disappointed or flopped before. Genre(s) don't play favorites either.

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We need to be comparing this to 2009's Star Trek, 2005,s Batman Begins and 2006's Superman Returns. You know, reboots?
Most casual fans aren't even aware that MOS is a reboot.

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Usually studios can push a sequel less when the original was successful. So far MOS is being pushed less than sequels like Star Trek 2, Fast 6 and IM3, that is odd and super risky. And you keep neglicting to mention that WB was overly confident with the last Superman film and it disappointed and itgot good reviews as well.
Returns' WOD wasn't exactly stellar. Singer crafted a film that didn't connect with the modern audience which is why the replay value wasn't a factor. Returns wasn't a bad film whatsoever, but neither was MIB 3.

Star Trek 2 - May 17th
Fast 6 - May 24th
IM3 - May 5th

MOS may not being pushed as in the marketing department as these franchises are but other than a Superbowl spot, I haven't really been blitzed by Iron Man, Klingons, and Fast Cars other than in theaters.

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