Star Wars VII Story Ideas

[Llama_Shepherd]

That's because it's the best way to up the stakes in the series:

I-III: Two forms of government at war over the fate of the galaxy.

IV-VI: A small force vs a tyrannical galactic dictatorship.

VII-IX: An invasion from a cold emotionless galaxy to one permeated by love.

That's why, on paper, the Yuuzhan Vong are the best step up in terms of the literal "war amongst the stars" of Star Wars. It's a threat that is absolute, the Separatists wanted money, the Empire wanted control, but the Yuuzhan Vong want death.

[BenKenobi]

Originally Posted by Llama_Shepherd

That's why, on paper, the Yuuzhan Vong are the best step up in terms of the literal "war amongst the stars" of Star Wars. It's a threat that is absolute, the Separatists wanted money, the Empire wanted control, but the Yuuzhan Vong want death.

But what does that have to do with anything? Where is the personal story. As much as I don't like the prequels its basic story fits the bill.

Episodes I-III The Empire Rises, The Jedi Fall, and Obi-Wan loses his student and friend to the Dark Side.
Episodes IV-VI The Empire Falls, The Sith Fall, and Luke saves his father from the dark side.

Then what?

Episodes VII-IX Yuuzhan Vong?

That just sounds like a crappy Michael Bay answer. It doesn't have to be epic but it has to have some sort of personal conflict.

All of the press releases about the sequels talked about "handing star wars to the next generation" most likely this is somewhat literal, having Luke hand off the role away from the Skywalkers. Also given the stories of the original sequel trilogy in which Luke only was able to redeem his father at the end of Jedi, not complete the whole deal we can assume the plot will be something like this:

A new dark lord is rising to power, most likely someone trained by Luke, who threatens to tilt the level ground of the force towards the Dark Side. A new unlikely hero finds Luke and convinces him to teach him in the ways of the force in order to solve some other conflict. Luke eventually dies and the new hero is now the last of the Jedi, he must rebuild the order, while his buddies help Han and the gang reestablish the Republic.

Given all of the Regional governors in control of the various parts of the Galaxy, the Crime Lords, and the Rebellions relatively small numbers, and Luke being the ONLY force user left it wouldn't be a stretch to say they weren't able too do much in 30 years. In fact it would be a lot harder to believe they had fixed everything since Jedi, despite what the EU says.

EDIT: Also when did the Separatists ever say they wanted money? They tried to build a Death Star and capture Courescant, most likely they wanted some power too.

[Llama_Shepherd]

Originally Posted by BenKenobi

But what does that have to do with anything? Where is the personal story. As much as I don't like the prequels its basic story fits the bill.

Episodes I-III The Empire Rises, The Jedi Fall, and Obi-Wan loses his student and friend to the Dark Side.
Episodes IV-VI The Empire Falls, The Sith Fall, and Luke saves his father from the dark side.

Then what?

Episodes VII-IX Yuuzhan Vong?

That just sounds like a crappy Michael Bay answer. It doesn't have to be epic but it has to have some sort of personal conflict.

Both Anakin's and Luke's personal journey's were established by the respective wars, but not entrenched in them.

In Revenge of the Sith, Anakin spends most of his time on Coruscant, far away from the battles of the war, being manipulated by Sidious. Whilst Yoda and Obi-Wan were on worlds in battle. He becomes involved in battle when the Clone Wars are essentially ended.

In The Empire Strikes Back, Luke spends most of his time in Dagobah, far removed from the war and in Return of the Jedi, Luke hands himself forward to the Empire, and becomes removed from the actual battles that are squarely Rebels vs Empire. He is alone against his father and the Emperor.

How about:

VII-IX The Galaxy falls, the force falls, Skywalkers save the force and galaxy from extermination?

All of the press releases about the sequels talked about "handing star wars to the next generation" most likely this is somewhat literal, having Luke hand off the role away from the Skywalkers. Also given the stories of the original sequel trilogy in which Luke only was able to redeem his father at the end of Jedi, not complete the whole deal we can assume the plot will be something like this:

The Yuuzhan Vong War focuses heavily on the next generation of the Skywalker family and Jedi Order.

A new dark lord is rising to power, most likely someone trained by Luke, who threatens to tilt the level ground of the force towards the Dark Side. A new unlikely hero finds Luke and convinces him to teach him in the ways of the force in order to solve some other conflict. Luke eventually dies and the new hero is now the last of the Jedi, he must rebuild the order, while his buddies help Han and the gang reestablish the Republic.

So we'd have the same story as before? Obi-Wan Kenobi Luke Skywalker, trains Anakin Skywalker a NEW youngster to become a Jedi Knight. However, once he has become a Jedi Knight Anakin this NEW youngster falls to the dark side, in his fall he destroys the Jedi Order and overthrows the Republic.

Obi-Wan Luke must then train Luke Skywalker another totally new character to become a Jedi and defeat Anakin/Darth Vader this Sith, who was Obi-Wan Luke's first apprentice. Obi-Wan Luke dies and Obi-Wan Luke's new apprentice must topple this Sith with the assistance of Han Solo and restore the Republic.

Given all of the Regional governors in control of the various parts of the Galaxy, the Crime Lords, and the Rebellions relatively small numbers, and Luke being the ONLY force user left it wouldn't be a stretch to say they weren't able too do much in 30 years. In fact it would be a lot harder to believe they had fixed everything since Jedi, despite what the EU says

Well I think that's stupid and undermines the ending of Jedi. The whole point is that Jedi is when they win.

EDIT: Also when did the Separatists ever say they wanted money? They tried to build a Death Star and capture Courescant, most likely they wanted some power too.

Every villainous government wants power. The Separatists wished to secede from the Republic for reasons that would profit them. What would profit them more than forcing the whole galaxy under their control?

[KillerCarlson]

They need to show how lightsabers are created for one thing.

[Gianakin_]

The Vong were fantastic villains. They even threatened the galaxy's perception of the Force. and yes, they did provide for personal drama, too. Lots of it, even.

[Octoberist]

My predictions:

-The trilogy will feature only one (maybe two) of the Skywalker offsprings, not four. They may be original characters or amalgamations of the pre-existing EU Skywalker characters.

-I think the New Republic will reflect our modern world in some ways. Where one government can't handle it all, and some will suffer. And the some who suffer will fight back somehow.

- The Empire will probably be present but won't be the main baddies. In fact, I can see the post-Jedi Empire being almost sympathetic, or maybe the new leaders trying to play it straight. I also think the New Repulic defectors will join the new Empire as an alt...

-I think the Force will be reflected like modern religion. You'll get really dedicated Jedi, and you'll get agnostics or some who will use the Force in opportunistic ways.

[Bim]

Originally Posted by Gianakin_

The Vong were fantastic villains. They even threatened the galaxy's perception of the Force. and yes, they did provide for personal drama, too. Lots of it, even.

While i'm not a fan of everything that happened during that time in EU, i do think the Vong were great villains.

[Gianakin_]

4 Skywalker offspring is overkill. 2 is fine, I'd think.

[BenKenobi]

I don't see there being skywalker offspring. Lucas has said Luke never gets married and he did write the outlines. Given that Abrams and the Arnt are big fans I can't see them straying too far away from them. Also I don't see much of the EU (big characters, events, etc) showing up. Most likely it's gonna be something completely new.

[titansupes]

^If there are Skywalker children, they come from Han and Leia. I assume.

[KillerCarlson]

Originally Posted by Gianakin_

4 Skywalker offspring is overkill. 2 is fine, I'd think.

Agreed. Luke should be childless.

[Gianakin_]

And penisless. He should have a phantom penis.