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I am sure Marvel will find a way to tie up GOTG with MCU, just add like RDJ cameo and box office should do fine.
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Budget: 200 million Box Office: 1 billion Thor: The Dark World Budget: 200 million Box Office: 750 million Captain America: Winter Soldier Budget: 160 million Box Office: 550 million Guardians Of The Galaxy Budget: 225 million Box Office: 600 million Avengers 2 Budget: 250 million Box Office: 1.8 billion |
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Why would GotG get a $225M budget? I think it'll be more like $150-175M at the most.
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I honestly don't understand why some people think GotG will make more than Captain America 2. Cap is one of Marvel's biggest characters and his movie will potentially be the first blockbuster of 2014. Not to mention the fact that 4, maybe even 6 (Cap, Fury, Widow, Hill, Hawkeye? Coulson?) characters from The Avengers are returning in this one.
GotG on the other hand is a completely unknown property. I don't think it will bomb, but I think it will be the lowest grossing phase 2 movie. Probably around $300M-$400M world wide.
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Maybe $175m, but a $150m budget is too low for a film that Feige described as being 95% in space. I'm thinking the film will be in excess of $200m as well.
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Again, Cap is one of Marvel's most recognizable characters but that does not mean his BO numbers are going to do better than a film that, if done right, will have much more of a broad appeal. Also, you say Guardians is an unknown property, but it is still going to be marketed as being tied into The Avengers and the MCU and will have Disney backing it as well. Just look what Disney was able to do with Oz, which has absolutely no precedent other than Disney marketing and it is going to open at $80-100m over the weekend. With all that backing Guardians it has a much better chance than a simple "unknown property". Last edited by Mr. Dent; 03-08-2013 at 02:38 PM. |
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The First Avenger made $15m more oversees than it did domestically, and typically franchise sequels tend to go up higher oversees than they do domestically. Iron Man to Iron Man 2 for example. or TDK to TDKR. Both of those sequels made less domestically than their predicessors and still made more worldwide due to a big overseas boost. But even if you simply keep the ratio the same rather than factoring in the inevitable big oversees rise, and add the incalculable but certainly guessable Avengers boost (Which in my opinion is about $100m both domestically and overseas) that should put it well over $450m anyway. At LEAST $500m (That is if doesn't suck). If you factor in the modern setting, multiple returning Avengers characters, and the mere awesomeness of the Winter Soldier story line however, it could potentially go even higher.
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$200M is quite a bit higher than usual for such an unknown quantity like GotG. Most initial efforts come in around $150M to start and then get bigger if the initial attempt succeeds. Marvel Studios is very well known for their frugality.
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I'm not knocking Cap or anything, but it's hard to argue that him and even Thor had more memorable roles/moments in the film than Iron Man, Hulk, Black Widow, or Loki. Your comparison of Cap to Batman is really reaching as well. They're two completely different types of characters and Batman is the most popular superhero period. He's on another level than Cap in more ways than one. Also, I'd wager a friendly bet going the exact opposite way regarding GotG and Cap. It can go along with IM and Cap showing up in SHIELD. ![]() Quote:
Again, I'm not knocking Cap, I'm giving him his just do. I will even go so far as to say I can agree that this film can hit $500m, though I won't go much higher than that. I'm still saying Cap is a bonafide blockbuster and hit but a political thriller with heightened action and a naturally pro-American leaning can only go so far against something like Guardians, which has the potential to be absolutely huge. Don't get me wrong, if Guardians is done badly then it will flop hard but if it knocks it out of the park it has a higher ceiling than Cap. Yes, but this movie is completely different than anything they've done so far. They will need at least $175m to be able to afford all the effects for this movie and it can easily end up being upwards of $200m. |
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Total Worldwide Box Office = $3,802,149,632 Phase Two Iron Man 3: WW = $850,000,000 Thor 2: WW = $700,000,000 Cap 2: WW = $650,000,000 Guardians of the Galaxy: WW = $600,000,000 Avengers 2: WW = $2,000,000,000 Total Worldwide Box Office = $4,800,000,000 Phase Three Ant-Man: WW = $600,000,000
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$600m for Ant-Man? Am I seeing that right? lol.
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Hulk is a A - lister Marvel Superhero but, Hulk and The Incredible Hulk movies both were unable to break even at Box office.
Hulk budget 137 mil worldwide 245 mil. The Incredible Hulk budget 150 mil worldwide 263 mil X-Men:First Class budget 160 mil worldwide 353 mil Captain America:The First Avenger budget 140 mil. worldwide 368 mil. Thor budget 150 mil. worldwide 449 mil. X Men first Class and Captain America were moderate successes, only Thor was very successful movie, still it made under 450 mil. All movies made by Marvel Studios that are not Iron Man or Avengers have made less than 450 mil. And I am not even taking into consideration, the performance of movies like both Ghost Riders. So, there No way that movie like Guardians of the Galaxy,Captain America: Winter Soldier, Ant-man will make more than 500 mil worldwide, and I am being generous. Still, I could be wrong.
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Being post Avengers will give Cap and crew a decent boost. Those numbers def wont see a decline.
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I have considered that, that is why I think that maximum that movies such as Cap. America 2, GotG and Ant-Man can make is upto 500 mil, not more than that.
GotG and Ant-Man are not well known either.
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You keep talking about Guardians like it's normal superhero movie, or like all Marvel movies are going to be the same and only gross x amount. These movies are movies all the same, if one is a knockout hit then it is a knockout hit. We shouldn't be using "well the rest of the Marvel movies grossed x' as justification because ever one of them is different.
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Also there's this: 1) comic book movie .com/fansites/rorschachsrants/polls/?poll=4295&view=results (3rd favorite character behind Hulk and Loki according to voters) 2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xChGwFrDxE8 (Generated the most applause from the audience) 3) http://www.quibblo.com/quiz/h68_6bZ/...gers-character (Not exactly the best indication, but still. 3rd favorite character behind Iron Man and Loki) 4) http://www.quibblo.com/quiz/gPXqs-y/...e-best-avenger (2nd behind Iron Man) Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is despite your opinion about Captain America, the rest of the world loved him in The Avengers. Quote:
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Pixar/DreamWorks, except "cooler" and with superheroes vs. political action thriller
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I think A2 making $2 billion is not too far a stretch. It should definitely beat A1, and I think in 2015 that number will be more than just James Cameron's turf. Assuming its good, it should break $2 billion. Ant-Man specifically is directly off of that A2 high, like... 6 months directly. That's the reason I feel like it has a serious chance. Once people realize what Edgar Wright does with the film, it will have some real support. My numbers are probably high (except IM3 which is decidedly low) but I'm going to stick with them and see how close I get.
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I can't wait to see how Avengers effects the MCU. It'll be crazy seeing Captain America and Thor get legitimate blockbusters, and Iron Man joining the billionaire's club.
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General standard for a "legitimate tent pole" is 200 M domestic/ 500 M ww. Cap and Thor's first movies both fell short of that (Though Thor came very close.) I believe both sequels are guaranteed to make that kind of money.
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Yes, since Avengers both characters have gathered huge fan bases.
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