Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot - Page 9

Anno_Domini · 03-13-2013, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MessiahDecoy123

Detective work applies to most Batman villains because they're all criminals.

Where there's crime, there's detective work. You don't have to be the Riddler to leave behind clues or have secret plot or agenda.

I'm only saying, it's easier to mention something than to have it work with a story. Nolan was able to make it work but it still didn't fit the detective aspect than you and others really wanted.

starwolf_oakley · 03-13-2013, 09:07 PM

1. Raccoon eyes. Bruce Wayne puts on some type of substance he can peel off in a few seconds. It's not make-up, but something else. Maybe like whatever football players put under their eyes, Bruce puts that over his eyes.

2. Teenaged Bruce Wayne. While we don't need another origin story, a scene that shows Bruce at 17-18 would work. The Superman movies did it. Teen!Bruce does parkour around Gotham in a blue hoodie, referencing how Batman wore a blue cape and cowl in the comics for decades.

3. Opinions split on Batman. If the movie starts with Batman active for a few years, we should see how some people (specifically cops) are split about Batman. While most of them appreciate his help, he's still a civilian who interferes. Also, some might say "At least when Falcone was running things, the trains ran on time and Chinese ninjas weren't blowing them up."

4. Bat-snark. Batman makes only one joke per movie in the Nolan trilogy.
The new Batman shouldn't be a wisecracker, but a few dark jokes from time to time would establish him as a different Batman than before.

"What are you?"

"...Seriously? You must be from out of town."

5. Corporate Crime Fighting. Batman fighting bank fraud isn't that interesting. But there should be something that shows the things Bruce does that makes Gotham a better place when he isn't wearing a cape and cowl. DARK KNIGHT RISES should have ended with a reference that Wayne Enterprises will continue making Gotham City a better place.

hellblazer103 · 03-13-2013, 09:54 PM

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Anno_Domini · 03-13-2013, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by starwolf_oakley

4. Bat-snark. Batman makes only one joke per movie in the Nolan trilogy.
The new Batman shouldn't be a wisecracker, but a few dark jokes from time to time would establish him as a different Batman than before.

"What are you?"

"...Seriously? You must be from out of town."

I'm really liking your ideas, but...huge no to this, lol. Just doesn't sound like something Batman would say that could come off well.

zman · 03-13-2013, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by starwolf_oakley

1. Raccoon eyes. Bruce Wayne puts on some type of substance he can peel off in a few seconds. It's not make-up, but something else. Maybe like whatever football players put under their eyes, Bruce puts that over his eyes.

2. Teenaged Bruce Wayne. While we don't need another origin story, a scene that shows Bruce at 17-18 would work. The Superman movies did it. Teen!Bruce does parkour around Gotham in a blue hoodie, referencing how Batman wore a blue cape and cowl in the comics for decades.

3. Opinions split on Batman. If the movie starts with Batman active for a few years, we should see how some people (specifically cops) are split about Batman. While most of them appreciate his help, he's still a civilian who interferes. Also, some might say "At least when Falcone was running things, the trains ran on time and Chinese ninjas weren't blowing them up."

4. Bat-snark. Batman makes only one joke per movie in the Nolan trilogy.
The new Batman shouldn't be a wisecracker, but a few dark jokes from time to time would establish him as a different Batman than before.

"What are you?"

"...Seriously? You must be from out of town."

5. Corporate Crime Fighting. Batman fighting bank fraud isn't that interesting. But there should be something that shows the things Bruce does that makes Gotham a better place when he isn't wearing a cape and cowl. DARK KNIGHT RISES should have ended with a reference that Wayne Enterprises will continue making Gotham City a better place.

well don't get me started on what TDKR got wrong, or could have approached better. I agree with all those things. Seeing Bruce with that black makeup around his eyes, and the correct lighting in the batcave, would look fantastic. Like the «mask» is not entirely off you know?

hellblazer103 · 03-13-2013, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

I'm really liking your ideas, but...huge no to this, lol. Just doesn't sound like something Batman would say that could come off well.

agreed. sounds more like spider-man.

i wouldn't mind some wisecracks from batman, ala the way kevin conroy's batman would make an occasional smartass remark and crack a smile in the cartoons (not like val kilmer "lol i just farted " smile, but you know what i mean ), but i can't imagine any batman saying those lines right there.

Anno_Domini · 03-13-2013, 11:22 PM

Conroy's Batman talked down to villains without sounding like a quipping Spidey, just like when he berated Harley Quinn in the Batmobile. That's something that can work, imo.

Grommers · 03-14-2013, 07:17 AM

I guess the only thing that needs to be fixed is...no ending for Bruce's story.

It should be a fight for the rest of his life, not one where he can retire from.

BatmanGoesToRio · 03-15-2013, 03:14 PM

1) More detective skills
2) A more acrobatic Batman which also means more acrobatic fighting scenes
3) No rubber suit
4) Make Batman a creature of the night again (like in Begins) plus more iconic Batman shots
5) Villains looking and behaving closer to their comic counterparts

And:
Don't make it a trilogy again. I would prefer a James Bond like franchise with different directors and the possibility of recurring villains (The Joker as Batman's Kind-of-Blofeld for example).

Kal-E · 03-16-2013, 01:55 PM

No Nolan since he ruined the character.
I want a bats film with more epic villains like Killer Croc and have Nightwing, Robin, and Batgirl in the film.
I have feeling WB is going have the new batman film with alot of characters and more of comic book feel after the turds Nolan has left us. Bat fans deserve a good film.

Brain Damage · 03-16-2013, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kal-E

No Nolan since he ruined the character.
I want a bats film with more epic villains like Killer Croc and have Nightwing, Robin, and Batgirl in the film.
I have feeling WB is going have the new batman film with alot of characters and more of comic book feel after the turds Nolan has left us. Bat fans deserve a good film.

regwec · 03-16-2013, 02:10 PM

Even as a regular detractor of some of Nolan's stylistic choices and handling of the source material, I am unsympathetic to the argument that any installment of the trilogy wasn't a "good film".

The Joker · 03-16-2013, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kal-E

I want a bats film with more epic villains like Killer Croc and have Nightwing, Robin, and Batgirl in the film.

You consider Killer Croc a more epic villain than the likes of Joker, Ra's Al Ghul, Bane etc?

Kal-E · 03-16-2013, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Joker

You consider Killer Croc a more epic villain than the likes of Joker, Ra's Al Ghul, Bane etc?

The Joker has been over done and Bane sucks.

Have a Michael Bay film with Clayface and Killer Croc it would be epic.

The Joker · 03-16-2013, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kal-E

The Joker has been over done and Bane sucks.

What's more appealing about Croc than Bane?

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Have a Michael Bay film with Clayface and Killer Croc it would be epic.

Anno_Domini · 03-16-2013, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Brain Damage

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Originally Posted by The Joker

You consider Killer Croc a more epic villain than the likes of Joker, Ra's Al Ghul, Bane etc?

I hit him with a rock!

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Originally Posted by Kal-E

The Joker has been over done and Bane sucks.

Have a Michael Bay film with Clayface and Killer Croc it would be epic.

Talk about a director that ruins childhood characters...

Two-Face · 03-16-2013, 03:50 PM

Hardy was great as Bane I just love his performance he matched Bale's Batman in everyway and I rather have Ang Lee as the Batman director than Bay.

Anno_Domini · 03-16-2013, 03:55 PM

OutRiddled · 03-17-2013, 10:38 AM

I'm not interested in any more live action Batman movies. You've already had every possible take on it. From camp to serious... and it's getting stale now.

I wouldn't mind seeing more animated adaptations, though. And more games. Or a new tv series.

Anno_Domini · 03-17-2013, 12:19 PM

It's getting stale with only one reboot? Don't think so.

Gotham's Knight · 03-17-2013, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kal-E

No Nolan since he ruined the character.
I want a bats film with more epic villains like Killer Croc and have Nightwing, Robin, and Batgirl in the film.
I have feeling WB is going have the new batman film with alot of characters and more of comic book feel after the turds Nolan has left us. Bat fans deserve a good film.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kal-E

The Joker has been over done and Bane sucks.

Have a Michael Bay film with Clayface and Killer Croc it would be epic.

Brain Damage · 03-17-2013, 01:55 PM

Love me some Carlin, but you might wanna get rid of that picture

Gotham's Knight · 03-17-2013, 01:57 PM

^^Gasp GIF it is.

FeedOnATreeFrog · 03-17-2013, 03:04 PM

Why do people want clayface and killer croc so bad?

Can someone direct me to a good story with these villains?

Human Torch · 03-17-2013, 03:26 PM

B:TAS had a pretty good story with Clayface I can see them adapting.Croc would be ok as a henchman to Penguin or something.

View Poll Results: What do you want fixed for the Batman reboot? (multiple votes allowed)
More impressive fight scenes	62	56.36%
"World's greatest detective" better displayed	76	69.09%
More imaginative villains/concepts explored	49	44.55%
More iconic imagery (Gotham/Batmobile/etc)	41	37.27%
Sidekicks included (Robin, Nightwing, Oracle)	47	42.73%
Full extent of Batman's various training better implied (flashbacks?)	20	18.18%
No growling Bat-voice	37	33.64%
Bruce is the mask, Batman is the true face	30	27.27%
Fix the suit (NO RUBBER)	28	25.45%
Fix the suit (BUT USING RUBBER AGAIN)	5	4.55%
No love interest	14	12.73%
No Lucius Fox (Batman does all the brainy work)	18	16.36%
Batman is a more shadowy and mysterious figure	32	29.09%
More BTAS influence	34	30.91%
More Arkham Asylum influence	36	32.73%
More comic book influence (70's-current)	16	14.55%
More memorable theme music	16	14.55%
Moar prep-time!!! (Batman is always a few steps ahead)	23	20.91%
All of the above	5	4.55%
other (please specify below)	10	9.09%
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03-13-2013, 09:07 PM	#202
starwolf_oakley Newbie First Class Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 22	Re: Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot 1. Raccoon eyes. Bruce Wayne puts on some type of substance he can peel off in a few seconds. It's not make-up, but something else. Maybe like whatever football players put under their eyes, Bruce puts that over his eyes. 2. Teenaged Bruce Wayne. While we don't need another origin story, a scene that shows Bruce at 17-18 would work. The Superman movies did it. Teen!Bruce does parkour around Gotham in a blue hoodie, referencing how Batman wore a blue cape and cowl in the comics for decades. 3. Opinions split on Batman. If the movie starts with Batman active for a few years, we should see how some people (specifically cops) are split about Batman. While most of them appreciate his help, he's still a civilian who interferes. Also, some might say "At least when Falcone was running things, the trains ran on time and Chinese ninjas weren't blowing them up." 4. Bat-snark. Batman makes only one joke per movie in the Nolan trilogy. The new Batman shouldn't be a wisecracker, but a few dark jokes from time to time would establish him as a different Batman than before. "What are you?" "...Seriously? You must be from out of town." 5. Corporate Crime Fighting. Batman fighting bank fraud isn't that interesting. But there should be something that shows the things Bruce does that makes Gotham a better place when he isn't wearing a cape and cowl. DARK KNIGHT RISES should have ended with a reference that Wayne Enterprises will continue making Gotham City a better place.

03-13-2013, 11:22 PM	#207
Anno_Domini The Man of Steel Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 16,712	Re: Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot Conroy's Batman talked down to villains without sounding like a quipping Spidey, just like when he berated Harley Quinn in the Batmobile. That's something that can work, imo. __________________ ChampionshipMaterialPunk VIDEO-CLick to Watch!: #BelieveInTheShield

03-14-2013, 07:17 AM	#208
Grommers Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Inside you. Posts: 1,439	Re: Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot I guess the only thing that needs to be fixed is...no ending for Bruce's story. It should be a fight for the rest of his life, not one where he can retire from.

03-15-2013, 03:14 PM	#209
BatmanGoesToRio Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 294	Re: Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot 1) More detective skills 2) A more acrobatic Batman which also means more acrobatic fighting scenes 3) No rubber suit 4) Make Batman a creature of the night again (like in Begins) plus more iconic Batman shots 5) Villains looking and behaving closer to their comic counterparts And: Don't make it a trilogy again. I would prefer a James Bond like franchise with different directors and the possibility of recurring villains (The Joker as Batman's Kind-of-Blofeld for example). __________________ NOLAN! NOLAN! CHRIS CHRIS! NOLAN! NOLAN! Last edited by BatmanGoesToRio; 03-15-2013 at 03:18 PM.

03-16-2013, 01:55 PM	#210
Kal-E Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: USA Posts: 33	Re: Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot No Nolan since he ruined the character. I want a bats film with more epic villains like Killer Croc and have Nightwing, Robin, and Batgirl in the film. I have feeling WB is going have the new batman film with alot of characters and more of comic book feel after the turds Nolan has left us. Bat fans deserve a good film.

03-16-2013, 03:50 PM	#217
Two-Face Harvey Dent Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Arkham City Posts: 45,124	Re: Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot Hardy was great as Bane I just love his performance he matched Bale's Batman in everyway and I rather have Ang Lee as the Batman director than Bay. __________________ Sir Alex Ferguson - A true United Legend. Thank you. TWO-FACE:[as Harvey Dent]The only way to get by in this place is to get ourselves some respect...[as Two-Face:]...Fear! That's how we get respect! Show them ... how we do things!" Batman: Arkham Origins 25/10/13

03-16-2013, 03:55 PM	#218
Anno_Domini The Man of Steel Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 16,712	Re: Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot __________________ ChampionshipMaterialPunk VIDEO-CLick to Watch!: #BelieveInTheShield

03-17-2013, 10:38 AM	#219
OutRiddled Banned User Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 507	Re: Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot I'm not interested in any more live action Batman movies. You've already had every possible take on it. From camp to serious... and it's getting stale now. I wouldn't mind seeing more animated adaptations, though. And more games. Or a new tv series.

03-17-2013, 12:19 PM	#220
Anno_Domini The Man of Steel Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 16,712	Re: Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot It's getting stale with only one reboot? Don't think so. __________________ ChampionshipMaterialPunk VIDEO-CLick to Watch!: #BelieveInTheShield

03-17-2013, 01:55 PM	#222
Brain Damage Banana User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Boston Posts: 2,193	Re: Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot Love me some Carlin, but you might wanna get rid of that picture __________________ WHO APPOINTED THE BATMAN? Free Original Music

03-17-2013, 01:57 PM	#223
Gotham's Knight Needs more George Carlin Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,108	Re: Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot ^^Gasp GIF it is. __________________ My Top 10 CBMs: (1) The Dark Knight/The Dark Knight Rises (3) The Dark Knight Returns (4) Batman Begins (5) Iron Man 3 (6) Iron Man (7) X-Men 2 (8) V For Vendetta (9) Watchmen (10) X-Men

03-17-2013, 03:04 PM	#224
FeedOnATreeFrog Side-Kick Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,132	Re: Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot Why do people want clayface and killer croc so bad? Can someone direct me to a good story with these villains?

03-17-2013, 03:26 PM	#225
Human Torch Ladies call me Torch Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,751	Re: Your top 5 things that needs to be "fixed" for the Batman reboot B:TAS had a pretty good story with Clayface I can see them adapting.Croc would be ok as a henchman to Penguin or something.

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