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Old 03-20-2013, 02:26 PM   #576
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you didnt get the point, Im afraid.

Gambit doesnt need to look 50 years old. As long as Taylor plays him, he will look older than Origins, and that should be fine.
I got the point Angamb I just disagree with you.

Kitsch will not look anywhere near like 35 years have gone by and will probably look very close to his age in Origins since he is still young. You wont be able to tell he has aged much if any at all.

Its the same as just ignoring Origins. Which I dont have a problem with. But trying to fit that character with their continuity and decade is a problem. Same with Emma.


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Gambit should only be 15-20 years older. They could go with Josh Hollaway like LSD always wanted.

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Gambit should only be 15-20 years older. They could go with Josh Hollaway like LSD always wanted.
I saw a few on here mention the actor who plays Jamie Lannister on GOT for Gambit. Both would be good choices.

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Nikolaj Coster-Waldau. He's definitely a hotter name nowadays than Hollaway.

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It wouldn't be more than worth it. I'm sorry, but Gambit looking as old as he did (in his 20's) would have to be pretty old(late 30s-40s) to make any sense. It just doesn't, and at this point a recast would make more sense than that would, unless you want an old Gambit running around. Which I do not.

They screwed up including him in Origins, and now they have to pay for it if they choose to include him. However, I think a time warp will change certain things anyway so I'm not worried.

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It wouldn't be more than worth it. I'm sorry, but Gambit looking as old as he did (in his 20's) would have to be pretty old(late 30s-40s) to make any sense. It just doesn't, and at this point a recast would make more sense than that would, unless you want an old Gambit running around. Which I do not.

They screwed up including him in Origins, and now they have to pay for it if they choose to include him. However, I think a time warp will change certain things anyway so I'm not worried.
all the respect guys, but I think some of you are a bit closed minded regarding Taylor Kitsch's Gambit appearing again.

its not a big deal, but I guess you arent interested to see Hugh/Taylor again on the big screen and Taylor joining original cast actors.

Its fine, everyone has their prefference. I just find it a bit sad.

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all the respect guys, but I think some of you are a bit closed minded regarding Taylor Kitsch's Gambit appearing again.

its not a big deal, but I guess you arent interested to see Hugh/Taylor again on the big screen and Taylor joining original cast actors.

Its fine, everyone has their prefference. I just find it a bit sad.
If they are going to try to keep the continuity from getting more screwed up, and if they want to move forward with more films featuring the original cast, then they will more than likely cast Kitsch again. They can just say his mutant power slows down his ageing.

Or the story of DoFP could see Gambit plucked from the past into the future or whichever time period the films ends in.

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all the respect guys, but I think some of you are a bit closed minded regarding Taylor Kitsch's Gambit appearing again.

its not a big deal, but I guess you arent interested to see Hugh/Taylor again on the big screen and Taylor joining original cast actors.

Its fine, everyone has their prefference. I just find it a bit sad.

Not really. I'm being open minded when I say that I can see Kitsch's Gambit appearing in a future X-Movie as his younger self due to a time warp or something.

What I am saying is that I'm not interested in seeing an older Gambit fighting alongside the X-Men just because Origins screwed up his story and chose to include him in such an early decade.

If you think that's sad, then so be it.

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Ugh this is why we need a reboot. There are so many characters that have been ruined, many of them fan favourites. If a lot of them were to return to the franchise it'll either be a continuity error (enraging fan boys and girls) or under less than ideal circumstances (i.e a Gambit in his 50s, enraging fan boys and girls).

Look at how many people were mad that Emma was in First Class.

Now imagine if we ever see Gambit, Psylocke, etc.

A reboot would be so freeing.

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Lol, they really *****ed over Psylocke. But her death can be fixed too.

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If they are going to try to keep the continuity from getting more screwed up, and if they want to move forward with more films featuring the original cast, then they will more than likely cast Kitsch again. They can just say his mutant power slows down his ageing.

Or the story of DoFP could see Gambit plucked from the past into the future or whichever time period the films ends in.
The issue is that its no really needed at all to make him an older Gambit.

I mean, there are many movies and tv shows that have the actors playing the same character but in different periods of time.

I said some posts ago, its called a cinematic Concession. Its fiction. Actors can play the same character in different periods of time. And very often their look dont use to change that much. appart from hair colour in some cases, or the clothes. Audience accepts it.

Audience IS used to it, but some users now feel that Fox cant do it with Gambit, because it would be wrong or something.

Taylor could play Gambit in 2016, for example, and we can accept that its an older Gambit, around 10-15 years older than Origins. Its not a big issue. He will look different, we dont need to see a 50 year old Gambit to enjoy the role and his performance.

If many movies and tv show can do it, and the audience accepted, Fox can do it with Gambit/Taylor. The audience will enjoy the role, whatever his supposed age was on Origins, which a huge part of the new audience didnt watch. so its not a big deal. Audience can love him, many fans can love him, many females can love him, critics can love him too. And thats the beautiful thing.

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I'd love to see Kitsch back, he was my favorite part of ORIGINS. They can easily age him through makeup or CGI. If Gambit's in DOFP and they recast I'll be sorely disappointed.

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Lol, they really *****ed over Psylocke. But her death can be fixed too.
But EVERYTHING either needs to be changed/fixed/altered/ignored/etc for so many things to work.

DoFP needs to give us a completely new timeline that has no ties to the original so that we can actually see more characters and stories without adding to the continuity errors.

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But EVERYTHING either needs be changes/fixed/altered/ignored/etc for so many things to work.

DoFP needs to give us a completely new timeline that has no ties to the original so that we can actually see more characters and stories without adding to the continuity errors.
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The issue is that its no really needed at all to make him an older Gambit.

I mean, there are many movies and tv shows that have the actors playing the same character but in different periods of time.

I said some posts ago, its called a cinematic Concession. Its fiction. Actors can play the same character in different periods of time. And very often their look dont use to change that much. appart from hair colour in some cases, or the clothes. Audience accepts it.

Audience IS used to it, but some users now feel that Fox cant do it with Gambit, because it would be wrong or something.

Taylor could play Gambit in 2016, for example, and we can accept that its an older Gambit, around 10-15 years older than Origins. Its not a big issue. He will look different, we dont need to see a 50 year old Gambit to enjoy the role and his performance.

If many movies and tv show can do it, and the audience accepted, Fox can do it with Gambit/Taylor. The audience will enjoy the role, whatever his supposed age was on Origins, which a huge part of the new audience didnt watch. so its not a big deal. Audience can love him, many fans can love him, many females can love him, critics can love him too. And thats the beautiful thing.

What are some examples of these movies and tv shows you're talking about?

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But EVERYTHING either needs to be changed/fixed/altered/ignored/etc for so many things to work.

DoFP needs to give us a completely new timeline that has no ties to the original so that we can actually see more characters and stories without adding to the continuity errors.

I don't think they should completely ignore the originals(first 2 movies at least), but they definitely need to wipe most of the slate clean.

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I don't think they should completely ignore the originals(first 2 movies at least), but they definitely need to wipe most of the slate clean.
Its probably gonna be all or nothing. It will seem a bit contrived since the OT are all close togther to only cut X3.
Alt Timeline would equal anything past the changing incident (70s) is different.


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Lol, they really *****ed over Psylocke. But her death can be fixed too.
In fairness, though, her role was reduced during production, with script changes removing a scene where she fired her psi-blades. They did intend to do more with the character originally.

Dunno why Ratner chose to kill her off though. The camera panned away from her as she, Arclight and Quill dashed down that corridor, but someone posted a freeze-frame from the movie that showed that she was also disintegrated.

However, her role was so minimal that she can be recast easily and we can believe the X3 version was Kwannon or Revanche or something.

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How are they gonna bring Gambit back into modern times unless they time warp him or some **** in this film? He would be in his late 50s/60s.
How so? Cyclops and Gambit in origins looked to be about 5 years apart in age.

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How so? Cyclops and Gambit in origins looked to be about 5 years apart in age.
The same reason they didnt have James Marsden play young Cyclops. You need to show a difference. That was only a 20 year difference between the two and they still used a younger actor. Gambit will be even longer age gap before he gets back in the series, at the least 35. Its all a cluster ****. Like X Maniac said if its an age slowing thing that could work.

Kitsch wont look that much different until another 10 years.


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The same reason they didnt have James Marsden play young Cyclops. You need to show a difference.

Its all a cluster ****. Like X Maniac
That's true. If they need to recast, so be it. But age wise, there's no problem with having Gambit join the 'present' day xmen. Someone slightly older than Marsden would be fine.

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He's asking WHY would Gambit have to be in his 50's/60's?

He wasn't in his 40's in XOW. He was a young guy. Could have easily been 18.

They could cast an actor the around the same age as Marsden and that would be just fine.

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Or use time travel to acquire him. Or put him in the next First Class sequel. Keep Rogue stuck in the 70s or something.

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