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Yeah, you guys really burned me.
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Marvel Studios certainly had their share of issues during the first three years founding a mid-major studio, though the problems seem to have diminished greatly since 2010. I admit, I give the studio a pass to a large degree because they are putting the connected universe on film that I never thought would be possible when I was a child. But back to the topic at hand - it's easy to question FOX's motive regarding the reboot when they fund 4 big budget X-Men films subsequent to ROTSS with minimal forward progress on the FF. And the challenges facing the reboot makes it unlikely that a fiscally prudent studio head will commit the hundreds of millions required to wipe the bad taste in fans mouth from the original horrid duology. I think we're looking at a high stakes game of chicken between the studios, and I am hoping it ends up with the First Family in the MCU where they belong. |
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Yeah it's not like Marvel sold those rights to Fox or anything, Just like how they sold the company to Disney. lol you guys make no sense.
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You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
gim·mick Noun - A trick or device intended to attract attention, publicity, or business. This is the official definition of the word "gimmick". If you truly wish to use that word to describe the nature of the universe in which these films are based, then we could apply the word "gimmick" to just about anything. The Star Wars universe is a gimmick. The Lord of the Rings universe is a gimmick. Putting well-known actors in films is a gimmick. Any film advertising whatsoever is a gimmick. Anything that could be used to attract attention, publicity, or business to any particular film could be defined as a gimmick. Want to apply that word to the Marvel Cinematic Universe? Then you have to apply it to everything else that even comes close to that as well.
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Ask the producers of Star Wars:The Clone Wars In a couple of years If DIsney Isn't calling
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Well, it's still early. If Iron Man has a sizeable post-Avengers box office boost and The Wolverine underperforms (I think this is likely), FOX may offer Marvel the co-financing arrangement they supposedly offered for the Daredevil reboot. With Singer (apparently) unwilling to mash the X and FF franchises together, I don't see why FOX would take on the reboot risk for an expensive project with modest upside. If Disney really wanted to put pressure on FOX, they could threaten to release a 3-D version of the Incredibles a week before the FF reboot hits the theaters. So Keep Hope Alive - at least for a little while. |
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I'm willing to give Fox a chance as long as they invest, take it seiously and make a real effort to do it right. On those things, Marvel has a better track record than Fox, but that doesn't make it impossible for Fox to do it right - just less likely.
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I am somewhat confident that, if it comes to pass, the film reboot will be of higher quality than the first two. That's a fairly low barrier to hurdle. But I don't see a way this film can be a fiscal success for the studio. Perhaps FOX is willing to take a hit on the first one, and hope that positive word of mouth will eventually lead to demand for a second, more profitable, installment? In any case, I personally refuse to support any franchise that keeps Hulk vs. Thing, Thor vs. Surfer and Galactus vs. Everybody clashes off of the big screen. |
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Though, if DoFP leads into FF that will build a lot of hype. Especially if DoFP is huge (it should be given the cast, release date, hype, and 3D price tag). |
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And though a tease in DOFP may boost interest in the First Family, it certainly can't compare to an FF film featured in the Avengers 2 post credit scene, released in the early May Iron Man/Avengers slot supported by the Disney marketing machine and accompanied by stores filled with toys, clothing and other film specific merchandise. We shall see. |
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There was no way Origins was ever going to outgross the Last Stand.
Your kinda of hoping for failure If you think The Wolverine will make less money than first Class. Can I remind people Iron Man 2 grossed In the 300 Million domesticly and Thor made 181 million domesticlly just barely beating the domestic gross of Origins. Not every film from Disney Is going to make Avengers size money. Many sequels do less than original.Even SPider-Man 2 did less than Spider-man. Soon the question will be can disney put out a marvel film that does 200 Million or more than Robert DOwney JR Isn't starring In. |
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And though the MCU films featuring Downey have been the clear winners, only one X franchise film has exceeded Thor in worldwide box office totals. And, in a clear upset, Captain America outperformed XMFC. Marvel is positioned to do very well in a post-Downey environment, though acquiring a solid though not spectacular franchise like the FF would certainly strengthen the outlook. |
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As I said In X-Men board there Is limit to X-men appeal In General audence appeal.X-Men lives In much darker world and deals with heavier themes than say The Avengers but the Iron Man and Spider-man films and by extension the Avengers are much more cwoad pleasing films that don't deal with too heavy themes.
Best case sceniros barring surprises Is The Wolverine hitting 180 Million Domesticly and 200 Million overseas and Days of future Past hitting 250 million both domesticly and overseas. With the FF you have to treat It delicetly.It's lighter than X-Men but lighter moments should come from Interaction of characters.Like Interaction between Ben and Johnny, Ben acts light to hide how he copes with being trapped as the thing or Ben making joke about Reed making a bunch of what Star Trek fans would call Technobabble.But you have to have elements of serious SCiFI adventre story with the lighter moments.Doom for example not treated as corporate knockoff can be one of greatest villains ever seen In Comic Book movies.I am hoping they don't try to use alien threat In first In rebooted series.If they don't use Doom use the Mole Man. |
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