General Star Wars Episode VII News/Speculation Thread - Part 2

[Solidus]

Originally Posted by Bim

I know how you feel. However, i'm trying to remain positive and just hope that Disney treats the franchise right. I just hope that even if they go with a fresh start (whatever the heck that means ), that in the end it all still feels like Star Wars.

As far as those rumors about the plot go, i'm fine with the concept of the new movies taking place 30 years into the future. I'm a bit confused about a Palpatine disciple (which one is that exactly?), but it's a predictable scenario, or at least that's pretty much what many have been speculating for a while might happen. I guess it's just a waiting/speculating game until we get more details

I'm sure it will still be Star Wars regardless. We have no idea if all of these decisions are Disney's some may be Kathy herself, and Disney is backing her decisions. But I trust them fully.

As for the plot I'm excited for it. Some want something completely different then Sith, but Sith are the "pure evil" and Jedi are the "pure good" and Star Wars always has that kind of conflict. We all knew it was going to be something of a new army rising up it is "Star Wars" after all lol Not Star Battles. . I actually got really excited about it if its true because really (even though it was not followed very well) this Sith will go against the rule of 2, and try to go back to rule of thousands like the KOTOR days. To me mixing that in there is awesome. I'm really down for that idea.

[Bim]

Originally Posted by Solidus

I'm sure it will still be Star Wars regardless. We have no idea if all of these decisions are Disney's some may be Kathy herself, and Disney is backing her decisions. But I trust them fully.

As for the plot I'm excited for it. Some want something completely different then Sith, but Sith are the "pure evil" and Jedi are the "pure good" and Star Wars always has that kind of conflict. We all knew it was going to be something of a new army rising up it is "Star Wars" after all lol Not Star Battles. . I actually got really excited about it if its true because really (even though it was not followed very well) this Sith will go against the rule of 2, and try to go back to rule of thousands like the KOTOR days. To me mixing that in there is awesome. I'm really down for that idea.

Well i'm sure they both must agree with the final decisions made. There's probably some compromises also, but at this point i give everyone the benefit of the doubt. I remain positive until i see the final product, always!

Yeah, them going really old school and breaking the rule of two would be neat to see. Tons of sith fighting tons of jedi = to me. I know the political aspect of the PT was hated by some, but i really hope they do show where the Republic is at after so many years after the fall of the Empire. I'm always intrigued by that aspect of the movies.

[Solidus]

Originally Posted by Bim

Well i'm sure they both must agree with the final decisions made. There's probably some compromises also, but at this point i give everyone the benefit of the doubt. I remain positive until i see the final product, always!

Yeah, them going really old school and breaking the rule of two would be neat to see. Tons of sith fighting tons of jedi = to me. I know the political aspect of the PT was hated by some, but i really hope they do show where the Republic is at after so many years after the fall of the Empire. I'm always intrigued by that aspect of the movies.

Ya of course it was compromises from both ends I'm sure. Or they just both agreed on certain aspects.

I'm not against having some politics in there it goes along with wars/conflicts, that was never what bugged me with the PT, it was the execution and really how dry the scenes became. I don't mind a little back story of the New Republic and maybe a little history. Just too much is not good, and it all depends on the execution of it.

But also as we talked about days ago, maybe the new animated shows if set post Jedi will go more into some detail.

[Marvolo]

There are rumors going around that Disney may be shutting down Lucasarts entirely. Game designers there are already jumping ship. Damn...

[Solidus]

I say good. Lucas Arts has been pretty bad/mediocre for some time. TFU was just meh. Ever since Chin left after Dark Forces II it really went downhill.

What I want is them to licenses out to better companies. Like Bioware did with KOTOR, or Raven with Dark Forces, or Pandemic with Battlefront ect.

What I would like to see is Bethesda make a Star Wars based game, and Obsidian said they had one in the idea phase, and they would be great at making an RPG. Honestly I think Lucas Arts is no longer what it use to be, and that's been apparent since all the debacle with TFU and especially it's sequel.

[ThePowerCosmic]

I just want Battlefront 3.

[Whiskey Tango]

yeah the future is alerady uncertain for the First Assault XBL game that would have been Battlefront 3's predecessor.

[Solidus]

Ya I would love for them to go back to Pandemic and maybe Obsidian and have sequels of KOTOR and Battlefront, or at least something in the vein of them.

I really want to see a new Dark Forces game, I would love to see that happen. But again all these games need to be out-sourced.

[smallville fan]

Originally Posted by Gianakin_

"A disciple of Emperor Palpatine aims to rebuild the Sith Armies of the Old Republic and destroy the Jedi where the Skywalker children will be thrust into battle and face their inner demons of their Skywalker lineage."

Lumiya anyone?



There seems to be a good chance of Darth Caedus as well with the whole "facing the inner demons of their Skywalker lineage"

[Destructus86]

I wouldn't cry over Lucasarts dying out...I feel bad for the people that work there...but they haven't really made a great game in a long time. Like most of the franchise...it's been skating by on name alone. I feel like Disney may actually improve things with the restructure

[Marvolo]

Disney hasn't released a good game in IDK when so if they restructure Lucasarts to be a disney game company then look for games marketed at kids with characters appealing to them. I don't see disney putting out Mature games.

[Hellion]

Originally Posted by smallville fan

Lumiya anyone?



There seems to be a good chance of Darth Caedus as well with the whole "facing the inner demons of their Skywalker lineage"

Sounds good to me.

[Solidus]

Originally Posted by Marvolo

Disney hasn't released a good game in IDK when so if they restructure Lucasarts to be a disney game company then look for games marketed at kids with characters appealing to them. I don't see disney putting out Mature games.

Ya either was Lucas Arts though. The thing is Disney won't make these games at least the big ones. I'm sure mobile stuff and small little website games ya. It's cheaper and more lucrative to have other companies make them for you, licenses them out. I will bet they will not be making the main games within Disney. So Lucas Arts and Disney's in house gaming has been terrible. But that's why I will bet they will do what they did a lot in the early 2000's and just sell the right to devs that have lots of talent. Marvel and all the stuff they've done it's not just "for little kids". Star Wars has never been about Mature audiences alone it's for everyone. But it can have a dark side, but not extreme.

So many devs would love to use the Star Wars name, and I'm sure Disney knows this. Star Wars is one of the strongest names out there to put on something.

[Octoberist]

Originally Posted by Marvolo

There are rumors going around that Disney may be shutting down Lucasarts entirely. Game designers there are already jumping ship. Damn...

They've been so mismanaged (there's even a great Kotaku article about it) with a huge turnover with the higher ups, I'm not surprised. Theyre irrelevant.

Here's a good example of their shortsightedness: Uncharted and once again Raider are the the rulers of that genre and yet, lucasarts never attempted to claim or challenge that market with the obvious: Indiana Jones. What a missed opportunity.

[Bim]

Originally Posted by Solidus

But also as we talked about days ago, maybe the new animated shows if set post Jedi will go more into some detail.

Yeah, that's one option. But hopefully we do get a very detailed view of how things are in the Universe 30 years forward

Originally Posted by smallville fan

There seems to be a good chance of Darth Caedus as well with the whole "facing the inner demons of their Skywalker lineage"

I wouldnt mind seeing Darth Caedus in there somewhere at all

[The Game]

I would love to see Jacen on the big screen

[Destructus86]

Originally Posted by Marvolo

Disney hasn't released a good game in IDK when so if they restructure Lucasarts to be a disney game company then look for games marketed at kids with characters appealing to them. I don't see disney putting out Mature games.

I suspect Disney won't develop future games...they'll use other developers.

[ThePowerCosmic]

Yeah, I don't expect to see him either. New and original main characters.

[Spider-Vader]

I'm not sure how I feel about the LA thing, they made some great games during the PS2 era. They've sucked this gen, but things seem to be looking up for them with 1313 and that FPS game. Disney should change the focus of the company instead of closing it, having two game companies under their belt wouldn't be a bad thing.

[smallville fan]

Originally Posted by kubricklynch

No way Darth Caedus is in the ST. They flat out stated it would be an original story.

Originally Posted by ThePowerCosmic

Yeah, I don't expect to see him either. New and original main characters.

Originally Posted by kubricklynch

Especially since seeing another Jedi fall to the dark side would probably be seen as retreading the PT.

Well they could use characters from the New Jedi Order era but still create original stories within an era that already has a good amount of material depicting what happens in that era. The Clone Wars animated series (R.I.P.) proved that you could create 5 years worth of entertaining stories within an era that was already done to death. This includes new possibilities such as new and original characters like Ahsoka Tano who's fate leaves many possibilities even one where she could very well live to see Luke Skywalker & Co. and maybe fight alongside the Rebel Alliance/New Jedi Order. The same also goes for The Force Unleashed, we still don't know what happens to Starkiller, Juno Eclipse and Rahm Kota.

Besides, JJ Abrams/Michael Arndt/Kathleen Kennedy can't just ignore all the pre-existing post ROTJ lore in the form of novels, video games, comics etc. They will have to acknowledge them at one point when further development occurs. If they completely retcon them, a good amount of fans who appreciate that material will create a large backlash. If they learnt anything from all the prequel haters, being hated by Star Wars fans will screw you up in the long-term(looking at you George Lucas!).

As for having the Sequel Trilogy revolving around Jacen falling to the dark side they don't have to go that route. The movies could start with Jacen Solo already as Darth Caedus along with Lumiya and the legion of Sith they are gathering as the bad guys of the movie. They could incorporate a twist that Jaina/Ben/Luke/Han/Leia etc don't know Jacen is Darth Caedus and they find out in the same manner as Luke finding out who Vader was in The Empire Strikes Back.

[Solidus]

Originally Posted by Spider-Vader

I'm not sure how I feel about the LA thing, they made some great games during the PS2 era. They've sucked this gen, but things seem to be looking up for them with 1313 and that FPS game. Disney should change the focus of the company instead of closing it, having two game companies under their belt wouldn't be a bad thing.

What did they make in house that was good during the 6th gen? They did great with outsourcing then, but I can't think of really any that stuck out. But I really can't remember them all.

EDIT: They did decent with Jedi Starfighter I will say that. But I think they have been making "meh" games over better ones for sometime. Kotoku had a whole article about the poor management over there the past few years.

[titansupes]

I really liked the Jango Fett game they did. Unfortunately, that was the one game I've ever played where if i was playing for longer than 20 or 30 minutes, my eyes would burn up and water. Shame, because as I said, I thought the game itself was excellent.

Jedi Starfighter was cool, too.

And I liked the Clone Wars game from the same era. And the two Battlefronts were awesome.

[Solidus]

The Bounty Hunter game I really did not care for at all. And Rouge Squadron and Battlefront 1&2 were not Lucas Arts, they were different devs.

[titansupes]

Originally Posted by Solidus

The Bounty Hunter game I really did not care for at all. And Rouge Squadron and Battlefront 1&2 were not Lucas Arts, they were different devs.

I was never what you'd call a 'gamer', and I stopped paying them entirely around 2007 when I just got bored with them, so I don't know who made what.

How come you didn't like Bounty Hunter?

[Solidus]

The gameplay was nothing special, and I remember it just had lots of bugs, and glitches that made it irritating at times. They just rushed it. It could have been great if they would have given it more time I'm sure. But some of the other elements of the gameplay outside of the shooting I remember was nothing special. Hard to believe that was over 10 years ago. Wow.

But I hope they do go back to sourcing out games, I'm sure they will. They will be centering it I'm sure post Jedi era. Since there is a 30+ year gap most likely between Jedi and Episode VII.