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View Poll Results: What are you most excited for Michael Bay to screw up next?
Further casting: Gary Coleman as Splinter, Ken Jeong as Shredder 10 31.25%
Costumes: Turtle shells aren't cool enough. Also, lets do space helmets instead of masks. 12 37.50%
Explosions: Explosions 10 31.25%
Choreography: How about laser rifles instead of ninjutsu. 11 34.38%
Actually going through with making the film. 25 78.13%
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Old 03-21-2013, 11:29 PM   #26
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I hope you're not talking about the CGI animated " TMNT " Flick from 2007, because that movie was awful. Turtles 4Ever on the other hand was awesome.

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I hope you're not talking about the CGI animated " TMNT " Flick from 2007, because that movie was awful. Turtles 4Ever on the other hand was awesome.
the design of the turtles and attitude of the turtles seemed to be more in line with the comics than the cartoons and movies were known for, it was a spiritual sequel to the live-action movies. I actually thoroughly enjoyed both Turtles Forever and TMNT.

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I hope you're not talking about the CGI animated " TMNT " Flick from 2007, because that movie was awful. Turtles 4Ever on the other hand was awesome.
Turtles Forever is my favorite turtles movie

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Old 03-22-2013, 01:23 AM   #29
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i liked Turtles Forever but hated how dumb they made the 80s series Turtles. immature and almost borderline retarded.

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i liked Turtles Forever but hated how dumb they made the 80s series Turtles. immature and almost borderline retarded.
Still, if not for the old school Donatello all dimensions would perish

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at least we have a glimmer of hope with the Raphael casting, but i'm not holding my breath.

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Old 04-03-2013, 05:34 AM   #32
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I have a problem with casting all Caucasian actors as the Turtles. Why not have one from each different ethnicity?

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You know, I went and watched the Transformers movies over the weekend. Gotta say I really don't have a problem with Megan Fox. She may be vapid, but I don't think she comes across that way. She has a lot of natural presence, which is half the battle right there. Actually gotta put her above Katie Holmes. If she's been improving with her technique, as I've heard suggested, then I'm fine with her as April. Her role has never even been confirmed, though. She could be Karai for all we know.

Right now my biggest concern is Jonathan Liebesman. I just haven't seen in him the ability to cull a lot of sympathy for his characters from the audience. His plot and pacing takes over.

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Danny Woodburn as Master Splinter.

Eat horse **** Michael Bay.

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I hope you're not talking about the CGI animated " TMNT " Flick from 2007, because that movie was awful. Turtles 4Ever on the other hand was awesome.
I loved the TMNT CG movie. Saw it repeatedly in theaters. It was the direction I was hoping a new series would take after 2003 went to the future and Back to the Sewers went off the tracks.

Only thing I didn't like was Raph, yet again, besting Leo and the movie makers going with "brute strength and raw rage trumps skill when it comes to martial arts!" again.

Honestly, I like the Leo/Raph sibling rivalry, but I'm kind of tired of it being the central focus in the movies, etc. Let Mikey and Don take the spotlight some!

Bear in mind, I went into TMNT with my childhood memories of TMNT and TMNT2 (and nightmares of TMNT 3) still clear in my mind. After 2 and 3, TMNT was freaking awesome. :P

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Old 05-04-2013, 10:04 PM   #36
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Why couldnt they rehire Steve Baron. He did the turtles justice!

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i thought the TMNT movie was great.

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I didnt' care for 'TMNT' though I liked certain individual moments.

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Danny Woodburn as Master Splinter.

Eat horse **** Michael Bay.
Um Michael Bay doesn't do the casting


I enjoyed a few things about the cg cartoon. The fights were pretty good and Chris Evans as Casey was awesome, he'd be awesome in the live action as well. I don't like the story they decided to tell. I don't need to the see "family" at odds with each other. I've seen enough of that crap in the other movies.

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I enjoyed a few things about the cg cartoon. The fights were pretty good and Chris Evans as Casey was awesome, he'd be awesome in the live action as well. I don't like the story they decided to tell. I don't need to the see "family" at odds with each other. I've seen enough of that crap in the other movies.
They were two separate points.

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Definately prefer a man that becomes a rat rather than a rat that becomes a man.
I can buy a skilled man being mutated into a rat retaining those martail arts memories but a rat in a cage that studied martial arts and THEN becomes mutated retaining those memories...C'MON!

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Um Michael Bay doesn't do the casting
If you think he has no say then you are a fool. Especially with the Megan Fox casting

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Any explanation as to why the mutagen does one thing to one individual and another thing to 4 other individuals(and then some).
(and then something else to the shredder himself).

For the sake of fan boy and general critics nit picking logic in "Bay's movies", Splinter starting off as a rat is better for everyone.

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If you think he has no say then you are a fool. Especially with the Megan Fox casting
I suppose that means Speilberg cast her in the TF films along with the rest of the Coen film alumni.
I did hear the Berg loved Shia after all. He should get credit and blame for that bit of casting approval. To suggest bay had anything to do with the infamous "no no no no" actor is wrong

Notice how it all had to go through the director of those films. And how Snyder has been very adamant about his love for Cavil in the casting.

To change our understanding of the system simply cause there's something you think you can't stand isn't a good practice imo. It's very possible that this director and the various other producers wanted to replicate the very obvious elements to TF so they all wanted Fox, and bay endorsed her(in spite of their feud). I'm not saying that happened but I'm not saying anything with authority cause I simply don't have it.

I think Kendrick may have been great in the role, but if you are looking for buzz and returns, and a role that simply isn't that of "Up in the Air", and a more appealing aesthetic to the demographic. Fox is a far better choice.

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if those are indeed the Foot Soldiers in the recent set pics, then WTF?!?!

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What feature was that?
I think they mean the Cg movie TMNT.

For me the casting of April O'Neil is not a dealbreaker(althought I think putting Megan Fox in there is like a bad joke come to life.) and I sorta liked Battle L.A. But for me I'm having a problem with the leads and the antagonist. Those cast as the turtle I'm not sure they can bring the larger than life personalities of the turtles to life. But maybe those guys are just the bodies and the voices will be someone else.

But Shredder...I don't like it when they water down a villain so much he becomes a generic guy. I don't think Batman should fight Joe Kerr, CEO of Laughlin Corp. I don't know, in other hands this might not seem as tragic, but for me it doesn't come across as "wild new reinvention" and more as " **** is silly/we are lazy".

For me the next worrisome thing is the design. I don't know how one screws up the design of the TMNT. But I'm always willing to learn.

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tmnt (2007)

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Definately prefer a man that becomes a rat rather than a rat that becomes a man.
I can buy a skilled man being mutated into a rat retaining those martail arts memories but a rat in a cage that studied martial arts and THEN becomes mutated retaining those memories...C'MON!
Well the RPG suggested that Splinter was already a mutant because of his high level of intelligence that allowed him to retain the knowledge he accquired from watching Yoshi.

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Any explanation as to why the mutagen does one thing to one individual and another thing to 4 other individuals(and then some).
(and then something else to the shredder himself).

For the sake of fan boy and general critics nit picking logic in "Bay's movies", Splinter starting off as a rat is better for everyone.
Depends on which version. In the Mirage comics, the mutagen was just a by -product of Utrom tech, and the turtles and splinter's mutation from it was just a freak accident ( also Laird really wanted the turtles to be " the only ones like them " so thats why there's not that many mutants in the Mirage books.

In the Fred Wolf toon and Archie books, The mutagen is created by Krang, and it combines the DNA of one creature, with the DNA of another, creating a hybrid ( although there are exceptions like Mutagen Man, and Muckman and Joe Eyball). That's why the majority of the mutants were animals.

The Movie's were more in line with the Mirage book, except the mutagen was just random chemicals exsposed to high levels of radiation, causing animals to mutate into humanoid forms, flowers to grow bigger, and human to grow extra muscle tissue.

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