The SuperHeroHype Forums  

Go Back   The SuperHeroHype Forums > The Avengers > The Avengers Sequels

View Poll Results: Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel?
Ultron 77 33.92%
Kang the Conqueror 15 6.61%
The Masters of Evil 30 13.22%
Thanos 88 38.77%
Count Nefaria 1 0.44%
Korvac 2 0.88%
Graviton 4 1.76%
Grim Reaper 0 0%
Grandmaster 1 0.44%
Other 9 3.96%
Voters: 227. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-24-2013, 05:00 PM   #701
Whiskey Tango
Side-Kick
 
Whiskey Tango's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: The South
Posts: 18,924
Default Re: Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)

It was a crap idea the first time and it hasn't improved with age. Stop.

__________________

2007-2008 SHH Pro Football Pick 'Em Champion
Whiskey Tango is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2013, 09:51 PM   #702
jaqua99
....I need a horse!
 
jaqua99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: dont you worry about that
Posts: 5,975
Default Re: Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiskey Tango View Post
It was a crap idea the first time and it hasn't improved with age. Stop.
pretty sure he's a troll

__________________
hi
jaqua99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2013, 01:25 PM   #703
I'm Venom
Anti-Hero
 
I'm Venom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Burlington, NC
Posts: 1,500
Default Re: Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jaqua99
pretty sure he's a troll
I was serious.

I'm Venom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2013, 02:10 PM   #704
Whiskey Tango
Side-Kick
 
Whiskey Tango's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: The South
Posts: 18,924
Default Re: Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)

So was I!

__________________

2007-2008 SHH Pro Football Pick 'Em Champion
Whiskey Tango is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2013, 02:53 PM   #705
Hyde
Ooga-Chaka
 
Hyde's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: South West, UK
Posts: 3,399
Default Re: Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)

Michael Korvac - but add a terrorist angle to his 'reshape the Earth' beliefs. Similar to John Harrison in Into Darkness

Hyde is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2013, 08:11 PM   #706
jaqua99
....I need a horse!
 
jaqua99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: dont you worry about that
Posts: 5,975
Default Re: Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)

Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm Venom View Post
I was serious.
come on. I really don't mean to come off aggressively, but why do you think it would be a good idea to have stark create him? Pym will be in the MCU within the next few years. Why change Ultron's origin when his great origin can still be created on screen?

its not like pym wont be there

__________________
hi
jaqua99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 12:50 AM   #707
I'm Venom
Anti-Hero
 
I'm Venom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Burlington, NC
Posts: 1,500
Default Re: Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jaqua99
come on. I really don't mean to come off aggressively, but why do you think it would be a good idea to have stark create him? Pym will be in the MCU within the next few years. Why change Ultron's origin when his great origin can still be created on screen?

its not like pym wont be there
Does the general public at large know that Hank Pym created Ultron? He's just not that interesting. We all know about Iron Man and Tony Stark.

I'm Venom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 02:12 AM   #708
Hawkingbird
I want to be Kate Bishop
 
Hawkingbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: With the Hawkeyes
Posts: 5,733
Default Re: Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)

Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm Venom View Post
Does the general public at large know that Hank Pym created Ultron? He's just not that interesting. We all know about Iron Man and Tony Stark.
Did you just say Hank Pym wasn't interesting...?

__________________
"Turkey sucks and you suck, and who made you boss?"
Hawkingbird is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 07:24 AM   #709
cherokeesam
SHIELD Director Coulson
 
cherokeesam's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Cherokee, NC
Posts: 11,416
Default Re: Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)

That's why I've had I'm Venom on ignore for months...he's a flat-out troll. But reading what he said in your quote, I had to lol:

"Does the general public at large know that Hank Pym created Ultron?"

Better question: does the general public at large know who Ultron is? *Or* Hank Pym? (Hint: no.)

__________________
THE COTTON AVENGERS

...They move like slick cotton on oil.

---Echostation, 3/18/2014
cherokeesam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 08:52 AM   #710
Dark Raven
The Gal from Themysicra
 
Dark Raven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Tall and tan and young and lovely
Posts: 17,984
Default Re: Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)

Quote:
Originally Posted by cherokeesam View Post
That's why I've had I'm Venom on ignore for months...he's a flat-out troll. But reading what he said in your quote, I had to lol:

"Does the general public at large know that Hank Pym created Ultron?"

Better question: does the general public at large know who Ultron is? *Or* Hank Pym? (Hint: no.)
Doesn't really matter if they do though, because if Ultron is done properly, he will look very cool, and that will add to Pym's popularity. I don't see why everything needs to be put into one basket with Stark. Ant-Man could prove popular too, and then people would wish that Ultron were properly assigned to his rightful creator.

__________________
Quote:
Anne Hathaway: "You did not just ask me that!! What a forward young man you are!!! My goodness!!"
Dark Raven is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 12:49 PM   #711
jaqua99
....I need a horse!
 
jaqua99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: dont you worry about that
Posts: 5,975
Default Re: Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)

Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm Venom View Post
Does the general public at large know that Hank Pym created Ultron? He's just not that interesting. We all know about Iron Man and Tony Stark.
in my eyes, Ultron and Pym's relationship is one of the most interesting ones in comcs

__________________
hi
jaqua99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 01:17 PM   #712
Whiskey Tango
Side-Kick
 
Whiskey Tango's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: The South
Posts: 18,924
Default Re: Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)

Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm Venom View Post
Does the general public at large know that Hank Pym created Ultron? He's just not that interesting.
Tell that to all the fans of the character, I'm sure they'll agree and maybe even throw you a party since you were kind enough to choose their preferences for them.

__________________

2007-2008 SHH Pro Football Pick 'Em Champion
Whiskey Tango is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 01:20 PM   #713
Whiskey Tango
Side-Kick
 
Whiskey Tango's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: The South
Posts: 18,924
Default Re: Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)

Quote:
Originally Posted by cherokeesam View Post
Better question: does the general public at large know who Ultron is? *Or* Hank Pym? (Hint: no.)
Even better question: Did the general public at large know who Tony Stark was before Iron Man?

Stark's had enough success without robbing aspects from an entirely different character and depriving that character's fans the chance to see him onscreen.

I maintain that it's a crap idea. And I'm always right.

__________________

2007-2008 SHH Pro Football Pick 'Em Champion
Whiskey Tango is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 04:20 PM   #714
I'm Venom
Anti-Hero
 
I'm Venom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Burlington, NC
Posts: 1,500
Default Re: Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)

Quote:
Originally Posted by cherokeesam
That's why I've had I'm Venom on ignore for months...he's a flat-out troll. But reading what he said in your quote, I had to lol:

"Does the general public at large know that Hank Pym created Ultron?"

Better question: does the general public at large know who Ultron is? *Or* Hank Pym? (Hint: no.)
Translation: I turn every discussion into an argument when somebody disagrees with me, so ignoring them ensures I never have to look moronic or lose another debate again and referring to them as a troll means that their opinion isn't the same as mine.


Last edited by I'm Venom; 03-27-2013 at 04:30 PM.
I'm Venom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 05:16 PM   #715
cherokeesam
SHIELD Director Coulson
 
cherokeesam's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Cherokee, NC
Posts: 11,416
Default Re: Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiskey Tango View Post
Even better question: Did the general public at large know who Tony Stark was before Iron Man?

Stark's had enough success without robbing aspects from an entirely different character and depriving that character's fans the chance to see him onscreen.

I maintain that it's a crap idea. And I'm always right.
I agree with you 110%.
I've always said that what distinguishes Ultron from other killer robots is his oedipal complex with Hank and Jan. You can't plug that into Tony's story, unless you were to sub Pepper for Jan, and Jesus Christ who wants that? I think even Gwyneth is getting sick of the refrigerator following Pepper around (it might even catch up to her in IM3, who knows), so we're all better off without her becoming the object of a killer robot's affections.

__________________
THE COTTON AVENGERS

...They move like slick cotton on oil.

---Echostation, 3/18/2014
cherokeesam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 05:32 PM   #716
Ant-manic
Banned User
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 4,019
Default Re: Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)

Quote:
Originally Posted by cherokeesam View Post
I agree with you 110%.
I've always said that what distinguishes Ultron from other killer robots is his oedipal complex with Hank and Jan. You can't plug that into Tony's story, unless you were to sub Pepper for Jan, and Jesus Christ who wants that? I think even Gwyneth is getting sick of the refrigerator following Pepper around (it might even catch up to her in IM3, who knows), so we're all better off without her becoming the object of a killer robot's affections.
Stark has father issues in the movie. and, in the books, Ultron has never fridged Jan. that's not to say that i think that Pym should be left out of Ultron's movie origin.

Ant-manic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 05:34 PM   #717
Ant-manic
Banned User
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 4,019
Default Re: Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jaqua99 View Post
in my eyes, Ultron and Pym's relationship is one of the most interesting ones in comcs
didn't stop Ultron from using Stark's body to "become" Janet Van Dyne. and that was from a leftover plot where he was Tony's armor, at one point. he's definatley Pym's creation. but Stark is associated with A.I., as well (antigone, plato, rebuilding vision, etc).

Ant-manic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 05:40 PM   #718
I'm Venom
Anti-Hero
 
I'm Venom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Burlington, NC
Posts: 1,500
Default Re: Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant-manic
Stark has father issues in the movie. and, in the books, Ultron has never fridged Jan. that's not to say that i think that Pym should be left out of Ultron's movie origin.
Pym isn't an Avenger in the first one. He could still be a scientist working for SHIELD.

I'm Venom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 05:55 PM   #719
I'm Venom
Anti-Hero
 
I'm Venom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Burlington, NC
Posts: 1,500
Default Re: Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)

I don't like the idea of Pym being on the team. You have Banner and Iron Man. The brains department is covered. The only reason to include him is to get Ultron. People are making this way more complicated than it needs to be.


Last edited by I'm Venom; 03-27-2013 at 05:59 PM.
I'm Venom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 06:06 PM   #720
Whiskey Tango
Side-Kick
 
Whiskey Tango's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: The South
Posts: 18,924
Default Re: Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)


__________________

2007-2008 SHH Pro Football Pick 'Em Champion
Whiskey Tango is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 06:20 PM   #721
Mr. Dent
Banned User
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 8,959
Default Re: Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)

That Ant-Man suit from the test footage would look badass alongside Iron Man, Thor, Cap, and Hulk.

Mr. Dent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 06:29 PM   #722
jaqua99
....I need a horse!
 
jaqua99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: dont you worry about that
Posts: 5,975
Default Re: Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant-manic View Post
didn't stop Ultron from using Stark's body to "become" Janet Van Dyne. and that was from a leftover plot where he was Tony's armor, at one point. he's definatley Pym's creation. but Stark is associated with A.I., as well (antigone, plato, rebuilding vision, etc).
I'm aware. But what does that have to do with Ultron's creation? nothing

__________________
hi
jaqua99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 06:30 PM   #723
I'm Venom
Anti-Hero
 
I'm Venom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Burlington, NC
Posts: 1,500
Default Re: Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiskey Tango
Are you calling me the greatest of all time?

I'm Venom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 01:13 AM   #724
fixxxer
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Bangalore, India
Posts: 809
Default Re: Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)

@I'm Venom:

I understand that you dislike the Hank Pym character and find him unnecessary, and would prefer him not to be a featured character in the MCU. That is well and good... arguing personal preference is a waste of time. However, we know that the Ant Man movie IS coming, and will be kicking off Phase III.

With this in mind, wouldn't it be more rational to associate the Ultron story arc with Hank Pym/Jan over Stark? Wouldn't the Ultron association add a plenty of texture and richness to the former (Pym/Jan) story arc, while being somewhat superfluous to the latter (Stark)?

Yes, the comics are not the holy grail, and where necessary, things can (and should) be tweaked to better suit the movies. However, in my opinion, a tweak of this nature is not only unnecessary, it would be counter-productive in the grand scheme of things.

fixxxer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 01:19 AM   #725
fixxxer
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Bangalore, India
Posts: 809
Default Re: Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)

And to answer the central question posed in the thread:

Avengers 2 - Thanos
Avengers 3 - Ultron

Both in terms of what I want to see and in terms of what I believe the MCU is building towards.

fixxxer is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:22 AM.

monitoring_string = "dee460792f24517621e3ca080805de7e"
Contact Us - Mobile - SuperHeroHype - ComingSoon.net - Shock Till You Drop - Lost Password - Clear Cookies - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Top - AdChoices


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SuperHeroHype.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.