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Old 03-30-2013, 11:01 AM   #1
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Many of us have been discussing the possibility of Christian Bale returning as Batman or even just Bruce Wayne for a Justice League movie. He might be up for 1 or a few.

If Bale returns...then the Nolanverse officially merges with the Synderverse.
If however he doesn't...the Nolanverse officially closes and Batman is rebooted.

WB doesn't really want Batman rebooted just yet. Not if they know the success lies with Nolan and his universe. They also feel safer with Bale returning with thst. Success lies in the confidence and familiarity of Nolan and Bale.

Now if it continues. ..should WB make use of JGL and Anne Hathaway for potential spin offs?

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Old 03-30-2013, 11:51 AM   #2
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(I am totally on board with an entire reboot for the Batman Franchise, new cast, director, etc...)

BUT if they do continue on with Christpher Nolan's Universe

I say definitely bring back Anne Hathaway as Selina Kyle/Catwoman, she has said she is up for a Catwoman spin off film, and I would love to see more of Anne as Catwoman. She was pretty much flawless in The Dark Knight Rises

Joseph Gordon Levitt would be great to continue on as Dick Grayson/Nightwing in the Nolanverse, but they would have to somehow fix that little flaw at the end of TDKR, when its said John Blake's real name is Robin.


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Old 03-30-2013, 12:05 PM   #3
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Absolutely.

There is much potential.

Catwoman movie in Rome.
JGL as Nightwing in Gotham

WB would be mad to miss those opportunities. Just til the reboot happens.

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Old 03-30-2013, 01:19 PM   #4
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Anarky would be a good villain to use for a Nightwing movie.

Causes trouble in Gotham, almost undoing the work Bruce did, descending Gotham into a crippling depression, which forces Blake to become the hero.

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Old 03-30-2013, 01:44 PM   #5
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Catwoman should definitely be based on When In Rome

Nightwing should correct John Blakes name making him Dick Grayson, feature Barbara Gordon, and have Deathstroke as the main bad guy with Black Mask on the side. Deathstroke is Nightwings nemesis and Black Mask is the reason Nightwing went to Bludhaven, so he could investigate Black Mask

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Absolutely.

There is much potential.

Catwoman movie in Rome.
JGL as Nightwing in Gotham

WB would be mad to miss those opportunities. Just til the reboot happens.
I like the idea of a Catwoman movie in Rome, the potential of great treasures for Catwoman to pursue.

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That'd be interesting.

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I would rather Blake become Batman in Gotham if we aren't getting Bruce Batman solo movies.
I just think Batman is more interesting than Nightwing. His imagery, his villains, etc.

If in a later movie old man Bruce has to come back to Gotham and become Batman again (perhaps to watch over his wayward son Damien) only then would I want Blake to become Nightwing.

I also don't see wb forgoing batman movies for nightwing movies. People loveeeee Batman, not Nightwing. They could always give Blake Batman some Nightwing nods (batons, red/blue symbol...and that's all I can think of for Nightwing..)


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Old 03-30-2013, 03:54 PM   #9
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The problem might be though is that people might look at it and think
"That's not Batman. I'm confused"
It might be a turnoff in people's minds.

But if everybody knew it was JGL and we see Gary Oldman in the trailer. It's established as Nightwing, a TDK spinoff, then it will most likely make people think
"Oh ok. That might be interesting"

Even if Nightwing is not well known enough to the GA, that movie and it's ties will solve that.

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Old 03-30-2013, 03:57 PM   #10
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The only way I could see them having Dick Grayson in a movie that maintains continuity with Nolan's (and wouldn't have me rolling my eyes or cheapen what came before), is if you have Bruce Wayne living in his retirement we saw at the end of TDKR, like 3-5 years after the end of that film (putting Bruce around age 45-47), when he's tracked down by a guy named Dick Grayson. Grayson explains to Wayne that the "current Batman," John Blake had taken him, a fellow orphan, under his wing, and has recently been killed-in-action. Blake had told Grayson all about the original Batman, Bruce Wayne, and Grayson tracked Wayne down because Gotham needs him again. Grayson takes up the mantle of "Robin" as an homage to his fallen mentor, and becomes the sidekick to Bruce Wayne's Batman. Nightwing could come later.

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Old 03-30-2013, 04:02 PM   #11
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That would be pretty awesome. Very Nolan like

But now apparently according to Jett, Batman is to be rebooted.

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Old 03-30-2013, 05:52 PM   #12
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The only way I could see them having Dick Grayson in a movie that maintains continuity with Nolan's (and wouldn't have me rolling my eyes or cheapen what came before), is if you have Bruce Wayne living in his retirement we saw at the end of TDKR, like 3-5 years after the end of that film (putting Bruce around age 45-47), when he's tracked down by a guy named Dick Grayson. Grayson explains to Wayne that the "current Batman," John Blake had taken him, a fellow orphan, under his wing, and has recently been killed-in-action. Blake had told Grayson all about the original Batman, Bruce Wayne, and Grayson tracked Wayne down because Gotham needs him again. Grayson takes up the mantle of "Robin" as an homage to his fallen mentor, and becomes the sidekick to Bruce Wayne's Batman. Nightwing could come later.
I also had the idea of having the superhero name 'Robin' being a reference/tribute to the fallen Robin Blake.

However. Id prefer if it was Damian Wayne (I feel like Blake is the substitute for Grayson, Todd, Drake -- the orphans). It would be wierd if they ever came into the Nolanverse imo). Damian offers something different, in that he's Bruce's actual son.

Damian could have been born prematurely at 4.5 months during the occupation, raised by the league (Lady Shiva) to be an heir after Talia. His first assignment, at 15 years old, is to infiltrate Wayne Manor, undercover as an 'orphan', to see if the Batman who returned after TDKR is Bruce Wayne, and kill him if he is.) Instead he finds Blake.

With Damien taking the name 'Robin' after Blake's death, and not 'Batman', there'd also be the feeling that he resists the notion of becoming his father; rather he wants to spite him. Perhaps by the end of the series, Damian will finally become Batman, symbolizing his respect/embracing of Bruce as his father.


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Old 04-22-2013, 09:35 AM   #13
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Right. My idea for a John Blake spinoff. I wouldn't call it Robin or Nightwing tbh. Probably just, Gotham City.

3 years have passed since TDKR.
John Blake has since left Gotham. The city has been at peace, the police are handling things quite well. But criminal activity is steadily on the rise, with the arrival of new city officials.

Blake has spent his time training his mind and body to match that of Bruce Wayne.

However, he knows deep down...he will never be The Batman. Maybe Bruce was wrong...not anybody can be be Batman? And certainly not him.

As Blake seeks out other means to train himself however, a new terrorist has been targeting certain forms of government and city councils. His intentions are, to save the world...not destroy it and to do that he must destroy those that are holding it back. Gotham City councilman, Rupert Thorne, who has ties to the criminal underworld and corrupt mayor Hamilton Hill are announced as the next targets. Anarky promises to bring trouble to the city, in order to bring it to peace. He will kill and then the Government will employ somebody who will improve things.

Blake realises he is needed back...physically and mentally unprepared as he is.

Commissioner Gordon and his new team, Harvey Bullock and Renee Montoya will need Blake's help. Who is now going by the secret identity...but has no official name. He asks Gordon and co to simply call him, Robin.

With the return of a vigilante on the rumour spread, the cocky criminals of Gotham band together to take the Batman wannabe down.
The stress of being a vigilante begins to take it's toll on Blake, bringing back dark memories of his unhappy past. Becoming angry and bitter, he begins to lose focus on what is important. ..and wonders whether he should just take the easy path and kill to control his situation. ..he's took lives before. ..he can handle the blood on his hands. But cold blooded killing as opposed to self defense isn't really the same, is it?

As Gotham begins to tear apart at the seams...Blake has a choice. .tear with it, or hold it together.
And will the help and support of the Commissioners daughter, Barbara, be enough to pull Blake away from the dark path he's heading down?
As the two of them realise. ..not anybody can be Batman..but just being a hero is a different story.


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Old 04-26-2013, 11:36 PM   #14
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Whether JGL plays Batman or Nightwing I think the best title for a spin-off movie would be "THE DARK KNIGHT LEGACY"

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