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Just think about the bank robbery in the prologue. Every thing has to work the exact way the Joker predicted it at the exact time - like the bus entering the bank exactly on time and the last of Joker's goons standing at the exact place at the exact second. This is ABSOLUTELY unrealistic. Which is okay because it's a movie. But in reality - no way. One single traffic jam, the bus arriving a few seconds too late - and Joker would have been a dead man. The same with putting dozens of tons of explosives in a hospital or onto two ferries without anybody noticing. No way. Last edited by BatmanGoesToRio; 03-30-2013 at 05:08 PM. |
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I thought it was interesting that the Joker in TDK borrowed some elements from real life killers or psychos, grounding him more in reality, while on the other hand, keeping the trademark theatrical, flamboyant, unrealistic characteristics. Great balance imo.
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Even though Nolan secularized the mythology, it still lies within the realm of fantasy.
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Nobody knows if that's true. A lot of sources say that Nero was shocked about the burning Rome and let citizens into his palace's gardens so they are safe.
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There's only one thing for sure. Nero never played a fiddle because violins were invented during the renaissance - one thousand years later. |
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You're welcome. But I made a mistake. The renaissance was about 1,500 years after the times of Nero.
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Interesting discussion that probably would need a lot of time to address more completely.
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And I think its an important part of TDK Joker. It also informed a lot of his plans. Some people complain about Jokers plan relying on too much coincidece. But when You think about it, none of the things Joker did were impossible, they just seemed too convinient. People say that there are too many "what ifs" in his plans, but he didn't care. Other villains might care, couse if something goes wrong, they get killed or imprisoned. He just ACTED, he did stuff, like a force of nature he is often described as. His plans worked exactly becouse he was daring, he always went head first, without worrying about the consequences for his health. And it just worked. This kind of effectivnes born out of 100% commitment, and not holding back, or being cautious out of fear is exactly the Joker's method in the madness. For example the school bus scene You mentioned. If Joker was any other criminal this would be way too risky, too many chances to get cought on spot, or bring the attention of police later. But Joker didn't care, he just acted and his succes was a mixture of luck but mostly effectivnes born out of daring, and alwyas doing things at the right moment, without second-thought. The bus escape plan might seem crazy, but with all the crazy he created at the bank, even with other bus drivers seeing him exit the wreckage, there could have been too much commotion and confusion for the authorities to catch him just there on the spot. For someone like the Joker, that all he needs. And that's why I think its plausible to get a real life crazy freak to wreak some havoc, if he shared Jokers philosophy. Of course not the level of carnage like in the movie, obiviously. But I could well imagine someone playing on the nose of the police for quite a long time, if one was as daring, clever and totally commited to his shennanigans as TDK Joker. |
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The Joker needs goons. I think a real life Joker's goons would lead to his downfall. It's incredibly difficult to evade the law and luckily most people aren't "cunning " enough to pull it off.
Also I'm sure most mentally deranged criminals are totally committed to their "shenanigans". However being mentally unstable doesn't work in their favor. |
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