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Old 03-17-2013, 07:28 AM   #26
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Well, she's gorgeous regardless of her hair style. However, once again we're back on her looks, rather than her skills as an actor or her character.
I don't think people are arguing about her looks so much regarding the hairstyle; it's more like "costume variation." Geeks obsess like hell over even minor variations in "traditional" costumes.

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I don't think people are arguing about her looks so much regarding the hairstyle; it's more like "costume variation." Geeks obsess like hell over even minor variations in "traditional" costumes.
I'm surprised people never complained about her not wearing the "traditional" Black Widow belt, which they actually tried at one point for IM2.

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Old 03-20-2013, 01:29 AM   #28
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I would have loved to seen the belt. I hope they use it in CAWS.

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I just hope she gets into better fighting shape than she was in in Avengers
she was a bit soft in that (and no i'm not attacking her looks or body, per se)
Black Widow should be cut, she's the most athletic human woman in the entire Marvel U
Iron Man 2 she looked more like someone who could really kick your ass

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Old 03-20-2013, 03:12 PM   #30
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She should start training with Jaimie Alexander, that lady looks like she could some serious ass.

I'm pretty excited about Widow being in this. She'll probably have some ties to Winter Soldier (though not necessarily romantic), and can deliver some of the hefty backstory exposition on a more visceral level than just reading off of a slideshow of documents and file photos.

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I want them to go into her dark past in this. What I really want is to reveal Barton was also a villain with her, as in the comics, and that in Avengers she was just covering for him. I know this won't happen, but one can dream.

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I want them to go into her dark past in this. What I really want is to reveal Barton was also a villain with her, as in the comics, and that in Avengers she was just covering for him. I know this won't happen, but one can dream.
That wouldn't make sense because their back stories in the film universe are obviously far different from the comics version. Clint was apparently a SHIELD agent long before he ever met Natasha, and they were never criminals together. Natasha's confrontation with Loki made it obvious that she was an assassin of the worst sort, who burned down a hospital and killed and/or tortured someone's child. She is quite a bit darker and more sinister than her four-color counterpart. Clint was merely the agent who disobeyed orders to save Natasha's life.


One day I'd like Natasha to get her own film wherein her past can be fully fleshed out. It would be interesting to see her having to deal with the real consequences of her past actions without SHIELD providing her protection.

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As much as I love that idea, I am 99.99% sure it will never happen.

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That wouldn't make sense because their back stories in the film universe are obviously far different from the comics version. Clint was apparently a SHIELD agent long before he ever met Natasha, and they were never criminals together. Natasha's confrontation with Loki made it obvious that she was an assassin of the worst sort, who burned down a hospital and killed and/or tortured someone's child. She is quite a bit darker and more sinister than her four-color counterpart. Clint was merely the agent who disobeyed orders to save Natasha's life.


One day I'd like Natasha to get her own film wherein her past can be fully fleshed out. It would be interesting to see her having to deal with the real consequences of her past actions without SHIELD providing her protection.
I don't know. Mysteriousness works well for the Black Widow (her being a spy and all) and we've seen what happens when they take mysterious characters and begin fleshing out their mysterious pasts in full detail... they become less interesting.

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I don't know. Mysteriousness works well for the Black Widow (her being a spy and all) and we've seen what happens when they take mysterious characters and begin fleshing out their mysterious pasts in full detail... they become less interesting.
Agreed.
It's probably best that we *don't* find out why Natasha and Clint have different recollections about what happened at Budapest.

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I love how in the first post her "arc" so far in the MCU is just her different hair style evolutions lol.

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Agreed.
It's probably best that we *don't* find out why Natasha and Clint have different recollections about what happened at Budapest.
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:11 AM   #38
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I love how in the first post her "arc" so far in the MCU is just her different hair style evolutions lol.
It makes me very, very angry.
I personally can't wait to even get some hints towards her dark past!

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It makes me very, very angry.
I personally can't wait to even get some hints towards her dark past!
Well, there have been hints.

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Well, there have been hints.
I also want it to be revealed Hawkeye was a bad-guy once too .

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I also want it to be revealed Hawkeye was a bad-guy once too .
It wouldn't be a surprise if he was. Black Widow, as well as Benny and Claire from Item 47 could be considered bad guys before being recruited by SHIELD.

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I really do think she should have a central role in the story. She's so important to Bucky's past.

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I really do think she should have a central role in the story. She's so important to Bucky's past.
This isn't Bucky's story, though. It's still Cap's.

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Bucky shares half the title

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Ah but the sequel half

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they should tell the stories like those movies like Crash that tell individual stories that meet up. Like the first half of the movie goes back and forth between scenes of Cap after Avengers getting used to the world, and Bucky after falling getting used to his new world, then in the middle each are sent on a mission and that's when they fight each other and Bucky remembers who he is yadda yadda...

that way you're telling both stories and both of you up there are happy!!

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I would enjoy a superhero film like htat, but it shouldn't be a film named for a specific hero if he's not going to be in the middle of it all.

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Yeah, ultimately this is Steve's film so the majority of the plots, character interactions and relationship developments should be for him.

As for Natasha, the last thing I want to see is for her to be turned into just a love interest. Maybe Brubaker made her important to Bucky's past but I hate when people say that Bucky is really important to her character as it seems to negate the decades of characterization that existed before that romance was ever retconned into her past. The Black Widow existed since the 60s and her past has been rewritten and retconned so many times since that I hope the MCU really streamlines it and leaves a good deal of the contradictory things out.

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could natsha be revealed as the widowof one of the winter soldire's victims?

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